Kindly STOP Disrespecting the Intelligence Community in defense

[IdaBriggs]

of Hillary's INDEFENSIBLE BAD JUDGMENT.

The nonsense argument that "nothing bad happened" is OBSCENE because the members of the Intelligence Community CANNOT TELL US about anything BAD that resulted from the Secretary of State's email being compromised without endangering national security.

If they do know about "assets lost" (that means "people spying on our behalf&quot , they can't reveal it. If they do know about missions that went south, again, they can't reveal it.

They can't say whether Russia or China have copies of all of Hillary's emails, or only the ones Guccifer posted when he hacked into Blumenthal's account. We know Blumenthal had stuff he had no business having, and names were named. We know conversations were repeated when only a handful of people were in the room, and the people there increased their chances of figuring out "who was passing information to the Americans" just from emails on Wikileaks.

But we will never KNOW if our people died in our service due to carelessness, because our people won't further risk compromising National Security so they can say "j'accuse!" to the woman whose poor decision making may or may not have played a role in whatever happened -- or didn't.

It is disingenuous to say "nothing happened" when the only people who can confirm that for truth are bound to silence in defense of this country.

We don't KNOW and Team Hillary is counting on them to stay silent for love of country.

So please, STOP with the "no harm done" bullshit. The rules were intended to protect not only this country, but the people who work to defend it.

She broke the rules. Unless you are willing to put your bones and blood on the line, stop pretending increasing their risk doesn't matter.

It's ignorant, and embarrassing, and shames us all.

They matter. She knew better. Their lives matter.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

2. And soon they will not be able to do that here

[EndElectoral]

3. Suggest you read the op writers' post again and really consider it before being flippant

[AzDar]

5. There are many from the Intelligence Community who beg to differ...Know she's in DEEP.

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/05/24/intel-vets-urge-fast-report-clintons-emails

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/01/19/intelligence-community-watchdog-reconfirms-that-dozens-of-clinton-emails-were-classified/

[KingFlorez]

4. This isn't about any emails

Let's be real, you really couldn't give a flip about the intelligence community or anyone else involved with security, this outrage is all about Clinton beating Sanders. If Sanders was winning right now, but this investigation was ongoing I would bet that you wouldn't be discussing this and be instead planning your trip to Sanders' inauguration. This is just one long winded prayer for an indictment and imprisonment of Clinton to hand Sanders the nomination by default.

[840high]

25. .that^

[AtomicKitten]

44. +1

[DemocratSinceBirth]

11. "The louder he talked of his honor, the faster we counted our spoons."

[Barack_America]

13. Nope, it's about the emails. Barack_America, March of 2015...

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86. I'm sorry folks, but this is egregious.

This is a big fucking deal, and frankly shocking. I am shocked she had the poor judgement to do it, and appalled that our government actually honored this request? WTF, my workplace emails are more secure than the fucking State Department? Absolutely unreal.

For all those "no big deal people":
1. Yes, it is.
2. You would be salivating if this were a Republican official. You know it.

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And I've held the same position for over a YEAR! Can you believe it? At least no I know the government didn't allow her to do it, she broke the rules. That helps a bit.

[CorkySt.Clair]

22. +1

Their slips are showing.

[ucrdem]

23. Bingo.

Couldn't have expressed it better.

[JDPriestly]

27. I don't think she will be indicted. She is too powerful and too "in" for that.

But I do think that Republicans will build this scandal into a much bigger deal than most Hillary supporters could ever imagine.

There are people out there, even liberals, who actually believe that the Clintons had someone murdered or even did it themselves. Whatever the truth is about the e-mail scandal it will hurt Hillary, indicted or not, a lot should she be our nominee.

Her trust poll numbers are very low. And the innuendo about the e-mails and all the other Clinton scandals tend to be believed partly because there is truth in them even if they are not always entirely true and because people do not trust Hillary.

If Hillary is our candidate, it will, for most voters, be a question of which one is the least trustworthy.

If Bernie is our candidate, we don't have that problem.

[YouDig]

6. Please stop abusing the caps lock key. It never did anything to you.

[Dem2]

8. OK

your sudden and extreme caring for the "rules" is admirable.

[msongs]

10. you dont know yet everyday here your crowd is acting like they do know and telling us things they

dont know as if they are true

[reformist2]

12. This post won't be allowed in two weeks. You had better get with the program.

I did. Nothing but positive spin on Hillary from me from now on. If I can do it, you can too. Think of it as a do-it-yourself lobotomy.

[Chan790]

15. Are we now on the positive Hillary post track?

Okay, this is a positive Hillary post.

I'm positive that Hillary Clinton committed the kind of intelligence breach that if she were a Republican, 90% of DU would be calling her execution for espionage and convinced she did it intentionally.

But...any sin is excusable to Clinton cultists, if you're Hillary. She could shoot puppies in the face with a .44 Magnum and her sycophants would claim those dogs had it coming. They're entirely inured to the reality that their candidate is what is wrong with the Democratic party and entirely in need of a purging.: Venial, crooked, stupid, vicious, vulgar and unfit for elected office at any level or position.

I'm positive she has it coming too...I hope she takes her cultists with her. Good riddance!

[passiveporcupine]

26. Thanks

Not laughing at your message, just your cleverness.

[Tortmaster]

30. Except I havent seen you ...

... or anyone else go after Rice, Powell and the others. Which leads me to believe that your outrage is about 3,000,000 votes and approximately 300 delegates.

Time to let go, my friend.

[Fumesucker]

32. I've gone after Powell more than once on DU..

Of course there's even more substantive things about Powell than sending classified info over an unclassified connection.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022227329#post4

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2250429

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=642400

[pinebox]

42. Rice & Powell are not the same

Neither had a server in a closet of their house and they were allowed the use of email.

[stillwaiting]

45. You have an account that is active since late 2013.

How in the world would you know, or even remember, which of us criticized Rice, Powell, and the others.

For the record, just about EVERYONE here criticized them at the time. We were on the same page then.

For some reason, we seem split now. Funny that.

[dana_b]

28. Do you hear yourself? You are saying that it takes a lobotomy to support Clinton

wow!

[Yurovsky]

43. I don't think it takes a lobotomy but...

you clearly have to abandon your principles if you're a progressive seeking economic justice for all Americans.

I'm not willing to do that. I've voted Democrat for every presidential election since I was 18. This year I'll either write in Bernie or vote 3rd party unless Hillary disavows her corporate masters and returns the millions in filthy dirty blood money she has accepted from them. I'm not holding my breath.

[stillwaiting]

46. For many of us it probably would.

I think he/she was making a point with that statement. The statement might not be saying what it ostensibly says if you get what I'm saying.

[onecaliberal]

14. Exactly!

K&R

[joshcryer]

16. Lol, this never gets old.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. Tarc's post should never have been hidden.

[joshcryer]

19. That cyber security didn't complain about clintonmail.com...

...is not an indictment on Clinton. I, mean, it wasn't even a secret. They are upset that it looks like Clinton isn't going to be charged. Very upsetting to them. Their last great hope, gone.

Tarc was of course unfairly hidden and I hope that jury is removed from service.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

24. Did you like my quote in relation to the thread starter?

“The louder he talked of his honor, the faster we counted our spoons.”

[ljm2002]

39. I agree with you...

...it did not come close to the level of a hide IMO.

[RandySF]

18. This is a first

The far left fringe supporting the intelligence community.

[joshcryer]

21. That's why this is a beautiful piece.

I mean, can it get any more crazy?

[Lars39]

33. Then you don't remember the outrage here for Plame

and the network she headed being outed.

[ljm2002]

40. Thank you!

I even had someone the other day ask, where was the outrage when Cheney outed Valerie Plame?

Talk about ignorant, in the literal meaning of the word.

[ucrdem]

20. LOL, they can't tell us anything BAD because they haven't found anything.

And they've been looking for six years.

[JesterCS]

29. She's right and everyone else is wrong didn't you know?

[barrow-wight]

31. HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA!!!!

Is this the same intelligence community you were ok with Snowden exposing the secrets of? Or how about the same intelligence community that gave us "weapons of mass destruction" in Iraq?

You make me laugh and I thank you for that. Everyone needs to laugh.

[pdsimdars]

34. Agreed. I have seen so many assinine statement blerted out it is shocking how little people know

Please, if you want to make a comment on the Clinton Email Scandal, first go immerse yourself at this site and then come back with SOME knowledge.

http://thompsontimeline.com/The_Clinton_Email_Scandal_Timeline

[seabeyond]

35. I would ask you to kindly stop... But you won't.

[ucrdem]

36. Is Hillary running for an IT position?

[IdaBriggs]

38. Just another thing she's not qualified for!!!!

[mmonk]

37. About all one can do is count stars at Langely on a given year.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

41. Boo

[One_Life_To_Give]

47. Hillary is going to need to work with them

Assuming she does get elected. She is going to have to work with these people. Serious friction between the WH and intel community will cost all of us.