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OREGON: Clinton - 42% Trump - 44% (Original Post) woolldog May 2016 OP
That's not good Ned_Devine May 2016 #1
Not to worry... here comes Bernie to save the day! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2016 #12
yes. and trending. grasswire May 2016 #2
Deep blue state. PowerToThePeople May 2016 #3
Is the election held in june or november? dubyadiprecession May 2016 #4
Oh, dear. chwaliszewski May 2016 #5
Uh, no KingFlorez May 2016 #6
You are clearly biased LoverOfLiberty May 2016 #7
need to put the green party in to be more accurate Viva_La_Revolution May 2016 #8
And a lot of those undecideds, they won't be voting at all. So that 42/44 is firmer than it looks. reformist2 May 2016 #9
and they told you this personally right nt msongs May 2016 #13
ROFLMFAO Dem2 May 2016 #10
Clout Research???? MohRokTah May 2016 #11
Funny how they keep cherry picking "good for Republicans" data Dem2 May 2016 #14
It's a damned good poll to report! MohRokTah May 2016 #16
lol Dem2 May 2016 #17
IKR.... LenaBaby61 Jun 2016 #24
Unknown Republican consulting firm. Seems legit. nt geek tragedy May 2016 #15
nice cherry picking dlwickham May 2016 #18
I am looking at and posting the most recent. woolldog May 2016 #20
There is so much hope in your post OP LoverOfLiberty May 2016 #19
Why? woolldog May 2016 #21
This is the pollster that showed Trump winning 45% of Latinos geek tragedy May 2016 #23
Yeah, I saw that too.... LenaBaby61 Jun 2016 #25
Polls from RW operations that are cherry-picked to paint Clinton badly and puff up Trump auntpurl Jun 2016 #41
We either don't need to worry, or we do need to worry and... Barack_America May 2016 #22
Hillary shouldn't be losing Oregon in ANYBODY's poll... John Poet Jun 2016 #26
I tend to agree with that. nt woolldog Jun 2016 #28
IF your poll has ..... LenaBaby61 Jun 2016 #30
That's the polling with 2 Democrats still in the race. cheapdate Jun 2016 #27
BULL SHOT MFM008 Jun 2016 #29
Did Clout Research polling overlook Portland? Zambero Jun 2016 #31
I thought we were supposed to say polls do not mean anything in May? LizetteWest Jun 2016 #32
There's still time before the GE. woolldog Jun 2016 #36
"clout research"? Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #33
I get my yearly physical at firebrand80 Jun 2016 #37
lol auntpurl Jun 2016 #42
Junk poll CobaltBlue Jun 2016 #34
Because we don't like the results? woolldog Jun 2016 #40
woolldog—Were you unable to understand my response? CobaltBlue Jun 2016 #45
Ruh roh cliffordu Jun 2016 #35
This has all the accuracy of the pre-primary polling that had Clinton up by 15 points here. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #38
Thank you for saying so. auntpurl Jun 2016 #43
He's a pollster for WND... BklnDem75 Jun 2016 #39
Thanks, you have a link for a more trustworthy poll? B Calm Jun 2016 #44

dubyadiprecession

(5,706 posts)
4. Is the election held in june or november?
Tue May 31, 2016, 11:21 PM
May 2016

These polls don't matter at this point in time. The conventions haven't even started yet.

LoverOfLiberty

(1,438 posts)
7. You are clearly biased
Tue May 31, 2016, 11:22 PM
May 2016

you chose to ignore the other poll that was Clinton 43%, Turmp 32%.

If you think Turmp takes Oregon you aren't very astute.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
10. ROFLMFAO
Tue May 31, 2016, 11:24 PM
May 2016

It's about averages, not cherry picking polls that serve a negative agenda for Democrats. Hillary was +11 in the other poll in OR.

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster#2016-general-election

Trump's ahead in 2 red states, barely, and he's even behind on average in Arizona!

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
17. lol
Tue May 31, 2016, 11:30 PM
May 2016

True.

I was looking at the party preference polls over the past 4 years, only one showed Republicans with a majority. It was a Fox gnews poll.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
24. IKR....
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 12:05 AM
Jun 2016

That Clout Poll--if I can call it a poll--seems like a right-winged poll, plus from what little I could tell about them, they do a LOT of consulting with Republicans. So uh NO @ the Clout poll

You're also right to say that if that poll says that Hillary is trailing Trump by a few points, she may really be up by double-digits like you're saying.

dlwickham

(3,316 posts)
18. nice cherry picking
Tue May 31, 2016, 11:33 PM
May 2016


why not report the poll showing Hillary with an 11 point lead; 3.3 margin of error and a 902 sample of likely voters instead of the poll with Trump ahead by 2 with a margin of 3.8 and a sample of only 657 likely voters

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
20. I am looking at and posting the most recent.
Tue May 31, 2016, 11:37 PM
May 2016

And providing a link if people want more than the most recent. People are free to weight polls and argue against them however they wish.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
23. This is the pollster that showed Trump winning 45% of Latinos
Tue May 31, 2016, 11:49 PM
May 2016

and 40% of black voters. The same pollster ran Birther polls not terribly long ago.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
41. Polls from RW operations that are cherry-picked to paint Clinton badly and puff up Trump
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 11:30 AM
Jun 2016

are likely to be frowned upon, yes. Because they show a clear agenda in posting them.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
22. We either don't need to worry, or we do need to worry and...
Tue May 31, 2016, 11:49 PM
May 2016

...Bernie needs to drop out right now.

Flip a coin.

Sorry, "Hillary is a shitty candidate" is not an option.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
30. IF your poll has .....
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 12:28 AM
Jun 2016

"odd" cross tabs and polls very much to the right it's not.

In the most recent Fox Poll from around May 19th, it mentioned that Bernie Sanders had a 4 point lead over Trump 46-42% in a GE match-up--down from a 52-39% lead only a month earlier.

Do you honestly believe the black bolded below?

The Fox survey also polled voters on a general election between Trump and Sanders, and found Sanders leads Trump 46% to 42%---that's down from Bernie's lead in Fox's April poll, where the Vermont senator led Trump, 52% to 39%.


http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/19/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-fox-news-poll/

cheapdate

(3,811 posts)
27. That's the polling with 2 Democrats still in the race.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 12:10 AM
Jun 2016

When Hillary (or Bernie) gets the nomination those numbers will flip hard.

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
36. There's still time before the GE.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 07:51 AM
Jun 2016

But not a good sign that a random sampling of Oregon voters could result in Trump running even with Clinton.

 

CobaltBlue

(1,122 posts)
34. Junk poll
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 05:20 AM
Jun 2016

Oregon is typically between +8 to +10 points more Democratic than the nation.

If Donald Trump is flipping Oregon, and winning over the state by +2, he is winning nationally by at least +10. (Oregon is one of the few states Michael Dukakis flipped, when he was the party nominee but failed to win a Democratic pickup of the presidency, back in 1988—and it hasn’t once carried for a Republican presidential nominee since.)

The notion of Donald Trump winning a Republican pickup of Oregon would be the result a 400-plus-vote Electoral College victory in which Trump carries at least 40 states. (The last time those amount of states carried was in 1988 and for Republican George Bush Sr.)

This is not believable.

Toss it in the trash.

 

CobaltBlue

(1,122 posts)
45. woolldog—Were you unable to understand my response?
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 12:02 PM
Jun 2016

Last edited Thu Jun 2, 2016, 10:03 AM - Edit history (1)

What, to be specific, were you not able to understand?

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
38. This has all the accuracy of the pre-primary polling that had Clinton up by 15 points here.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 08:13 AM
Jun 2016

Here is my experience with polling this cycle. Every polling call I have had has been loaded and pushing an agenda. I have in fact hung up on all three of them after telling them so.

The pre Primary polls that Hillary supporters plastered all over DU were absurd. So is this.

BklnDem75

(2,918 posts)
39. He's a pollster for WND...
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 08:18 AM
Jun 2016

WorldNetDaily’s Ethically Challenged Pollster


In June 2009, WorldNetDaily began touting “a series of monthly ‘Freedom Index’ polls conducted exclusively for WND by the public opinion research and media consulting company Wenzel Strategies.” The first poll, released June 15, claimed to find that “nearly half of all adults in America believe there has been a decrease in personal freedom under the Obama administration.” This was followed the next day with another poll asserting that Americans “are not only aware of questions about Barack Obama’s constitutional eligibility for office, but almost half are either ‘troubled’ by the questions or believe he should release all relevant documents including his long-form birth certificate.”

It’s unsurprising that WND would hire a pollster who came up with results that meshed nicely with its anti-Obama agenda — Wenzel Strategies would be WND’s ex-pollster if it didn’t.

Indeed, company chief Fritz Wenzel plays that part: Regarding the birther poll, WND quotes Wenzel as saying:

Our polling shows that the questions surrounding Barack Obama’s eligibility to serve as president clearly strike a nerve across America, probably because it is a problem that everybody understands. Every American citizen has a birth certificate, and once in a while we all have to produce them to get a drivers license or gain entrance to school .... And while Obama did get in to the White House, nearly half the country’s adults — 49 percent — are troubled by this issue and still want him to produce his official long-form birth certificate.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/terry-krepel/worldnetdailys-ethically_b_658787.html


A Birther pollster...

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