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political marxist

(22 posts)
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 07:01 AM Jun 2016

The MSM wants Bernie to go away

Which is out of the question...His candidacy is supported by a very independent minded, angry and determined base who see his campaign as a building block for a different sort of politics. He represents a social democratic impetus that must be heard in Philadelphia and beyond. To leave now would be a betrayal of principle, something he has never done and something his supporters would never forgive him for. This election cycle has raised political principle as a necessary part of participating in the process and has revealed the "lesser of two evils" argument for what is...an excuse to ignore the democratic path we should be following for business as usual. Leave Bernie alone and let the process play out; the possibility of a real alternative depends on it.

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The MSM wants Bernie to go away (Original Post) political marxist Jun 2016 OP
His irrelevancy in all of this increases day by day. boston bean Jun 2016 #1
Sanders should work on getting down ticket Democrats elected. The Republicans currently Trust Buster Jun 2016 #2
Your are describing someone elses' J.O.B. disillusioned73 Jun 2016 #8
Why ? You claim that she doesn't share your vision. You support her challenger in Florida for that Trust Buster Jun 2016 #9
Au contraire mon frere, I don't think you thought through your post very well... disillusioned73 Jun 2016 #14
Sanders and his supporters want DWS replaced at the DNC. To hear about this so called revolution Trust Buster Jun 2016 #17
You seem to have a certain narrative today.. disillusioned73 Jun 2016 #18
My narrative is correct. All that Sanders has left us to build a political coalition in Congress. Trust Buster Jun 2016 #19
sanders only cares about sanders....he is becoming less and less relevant beachbum bob Jun 2016 #3
He lost. He should go away. You can still keep your ideals and work on them. upaloopa Jun 2016 #4
Far-sighted and wise. K and R Smarmie Doofus Jun 2016 #5
That they want any part in shaping the race is gut churning. Ed Suspicious Jun 2016 #6
Truth marions ghost Jun 2016 #7
So does the Clinton contingency on DU. LWolf Jun 2016 #10
Hell, yes. bvf Jun 2016 #15
M$M is owned by about 6 huge corporate conglomerates.... Triana Jun 2016 #11
OTOH, the MSM likes a horse race. thesquanderer Jun 2016 #12
Agreed GreenPartyVoter Jun 2016 #13
process officially ends in 13 days, effectively in 6 days nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #16
It's not just the MSM. DavidDvorkin Jun 2016 #20

boston bean

(36,910 posts)
1. His irrelevancy in all of this increases day by day.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 07:04 AM
Jun 2016

It's a pipe dream.

Sorry to be so blunt. But it is the truth.

It will be Hillary v Trump. Get on board or don't.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
2. Sanders should work on getting down ticket Democrats elected. The Republicans currently
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 07:18 AM
Jun 2016

control the Senate and the House. If that continues, then Sanders and his ilk will continue to be irrelevant.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
9. Why ? You claim that she doesn't share your vision. You support her challenger in Florida for that
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 08:10 AM
Jun 2016

very reason. Why, on earth, would you sit back and expect her to promote candidates that you believe she won't ? I don't think you thought that one out very well.

 

disillusioned73

(2,872 posts)
14. Au contraire mon frere, I don't think you thought through your post very well...
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 08:47 AM
Jun 2016

"Sanders should work on getting down ticket Democrats elected. The Republicans currently control the Senate and the House."



" The committee coordinates strategy to support Democratic Party candidates throughout the country for local, state, and national office."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_National_Committee

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
17. Sanders and his supporters want DWS replaced at the DNC. To hear about this so called revolution
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 09:18 AM
Jun 2016

and now to hear that Sanders can't help with the down ticket but must rely on the good graces of DWS is WEAK AND PATHETIC !!!!!!!!!

 

disillusioned73

(2,872 posts)
18. You seem to have a certain narrative today..
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 09:32 AM
Jun 2016

here, let me remind you of what the op was about;

"The MSM wants Bernie to go away

Which is out of the question...His candidacy is supported by a very independent minded, angry and determined base who see his campaign as a building block for a different sort of politics. He represents a social democratic impetus that must be heard in Philadelphia and beyond. To leave now would be a betrayal of principle, something he has never done and something his supporters would never forgive him for. This election cycle has raised political principle as a necessary part of participating in the process and has revealed the "lesser of two evils" argument for what is...an excuse to ignore the democratic path we should be following for business as usual. Leave Bernie alone and let the process play out; the possibility of a real alternative depends on it."

I see nothing in there in regards to the direction you are trying to take the conversation into..

and yes DWS does need to go, I know the establishment is appalled that the left dare to challenge an entrenched DINO - but here we are.. anywho, we have plenty of threads addressing that issue..

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
19. My narrative is correct. All that Sanders has left us to build a political coalition in Congress.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 09:36 AM
Jun 2016

Your "DWS must do that " is weak and pathetic. That's all.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
3. sanders only cares about sanders....he is becoming less and less relevant
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 07:25 AM
Jun 2016

everyday

he offers no solutions and only blah blah blah freestuff....never been a leader and never got stuff done in congress...but give him a microphone.....

his footnote in history is becoming smaller and smaller

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
4. He lost. He should go away. You can still keep your ideals and work on them.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 07:26 AM
Jun 2016

Sanders will go back to the Senate for a couple of years.

His revolution never was much but a lot of people at rallies. Nothing came of it.

 

Triana

(22,666 posts)
11. M$M is owned by about 6 huge corporate conglomerates....
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 08:24 AM
Jun 2016

...who know Sanders will make them pay/pay their fair share of taxes and that he may regulate them and force a breakup (badly needed IMO). They don't want that. So they're going to do everything in their considerable (unfair frankly) power to stop him.

Clinton has the MONEY - the money and power of Big Media, Wall St., Big Pharma, Big AG, Big Oil & Gas, Big Insurance.

Bernie has the PEOPLE.

That's what Election 2016 boils down to: MONEY vs. PEOPLE.

It's an Oligarchy. The question is do we want it to stay that way for the rest of all of our and our children's lives or do we want our Democracy back? That's what's meant by "revolution". If we want Democracy, WE have to TAKE it, MAKE it.

MONEY will likely win though. It always does. Until the PEOPLE find a way to overtake it.

For some reason in America, too many of them either can't or don't want to. And the MONEY is horrendously, dangerously and far too powerful.

Democracy's last gasp is this year. It's been on its last legs for a while now. After this, it's gone completely and yep - forever in the United States.

Because most people here have no concept of anything else. They're afraid of anything else. And they're dumbed down by decades of corporate propaganda and gutted public schools and they will vote against themselves. That's how propaganda works after all.

thesquanderer

(12,922 posts)
12. OTOH, the MSM likes a horse race.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 08:32 AM
Jun 2016

So while they may not want him to win, they probably don't particularly want him to immediately go away, either.

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