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Vattel

(9,289 posts)
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 10:18 PM Jun 2016

Why Young People of Color Are Rejecting Hillary Clinton

CHICAGO – The young Latina juggles a pen, her phone and a small notebook in her hands as she searches for the words that’ll underscore her point. On a small raised stage at the front of the room sit the esteemed media maven Maria Hinojosa; Mark Hugo Lopez, the director of Pew’s Latino division; Professor Cristina Mora from Berkeley; Humboldt Park native Michael Rodriguez, who’ll be teaching at Northwestern in the fall; and Julio Ricardo Varela, founder of LatinoRebels.com and now the political editor of Hinojosa’s Futuro Media Group. The panel is the first in a daylong symposium titled “2016 and the Latino Vote,” hosted by DePaul’s department of Latin American and Latino studies and Futuro Media. . . .

The girl, a student in Hinojosa’s course on intersectionality and psychological well-being, is explaining why young people such as herself have lost faith in the perennial cracks at reforming America’s political system. She uses the words “I” and “we” interchangeably. When she mentions offhand that she won’t be voting for Hillary Clinton in the looming general election, applause erupts among the students, though its epicenter is unmistakably in the first two rows, where a visiting class from Clemente High School is seated. It’ll be the biggest applause line of the morning. And the panelists are stunned. . . .

The more young people learn about Hillary, the less likely they are to vote for her. Her betrayal of female workers during her time on the board of directors at Walmart, her betrayal of children, families, people of color and immigrants during her time as first lady, her pro-Wall Street years in the Senate, and her betrayal of the United States’ neighbors in Latin America during her tenure as secretary of state. Hillary indeed has plenty of experience in government. Unfortunately for her, it mostly involves her taking neoliberal positions. There’s nothing wrong with Hillary being a neoliberal and not a “true” progressive, but at least tell me the truth. . . .

Back at the DePaul conference on the Latino vote, the young people in the room are virtually unanimous in their agreement with this rationale. They aren’t willing to vote for Hillary, even it means four years of President Trump. There’s no difference anyway. Trump wants to build a wall along the border with Mexico; Hillary wants to deport anyone who crosses that border illegally. Trump is a cutthroat businessman on Wall Street, where Hillary has close ties with cutthroat businessmen. Trump is an Islamophobe who wants to ban Arab Muslims from entering the United States, whereas Hillary is a hawk who wants to bomb Arab Muslim countries. Trump’s vitriol has ruffled more than a few feathers internationally, but Hillary has antagonized most of Latin America with all the “hard choices” she has had to make in Mexico, Honduras, Colombia and Haiti, or how in “dealing with Venezuela’s Hugo Chávez, Bolivia’s Evo Morales, Argentina’s Cristina Fernández de Kirchner or Honduras’s Manuel Zelaya,” as Nikolas Kozloff writes, “leaders are referred to as petulant children holding naïve ideas about the world.” Optics aside, Hillary is Trump, only with an expert PR team and the full force of the United States’ propagandistic media machine behind her. Trump has promised to do some terrible things, but Hillary has already done some terrible things.


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IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
6. Ouch! "Optics aside, Hillary is Trump, only with an expert PR team..."
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 10:51 PM
Jun 2016
They aren’t willing to vote for Hillary, even it means four years of President Trump. There’s no difference anyway.

Trump wants to build a wall along the border with Mexico; Hillary wants to deport anyone who crosses that border illegally.

Trump is a cutthroat businessman on Wall Street, where Hillary has close ties with cutthroat businessmen.

Trump is an Islamophobe who wants to ban Arab Muslims from entering the United States, whereas Hillary is a hawk who wants to bomb Arab Muslim countries.

Trump’s vitriol has ruffled more than a few feathers internationally, but Hillary has antagonized most of Latin America with all the “hard choices” she has had to make in Mexico, Honduras, Colombia and Haiti, or how in “dealing with Venezuela’s Hugo Chávez, Bolivia’s Evo Morales, Argentina’s Cristina Fernández de Kirchner or Honduras’s Manuel Zelaya,” as Nikolas Kozloff writes, “leaders are referred to as petulant children holding naïve ideas about the world.”

Optics aside, Hillary is Trump, only with an expert PR team and the full force of the United States’ propagandistic media machine behind her. Trump has promised to do some terrible things, but Hillary has already done some terrible things.


Those are some unpleasant truth bombs.
 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
7. There is some truth to it, but I think there is a wide gap between Trump and Hillary
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 10:52 PM
Jun 2016

in terms of basic competence and likely SCOTUS nominations.

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
8. Those are not the quality of life issues being addressed in the original post.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 10:57 PM
Jun 2016

And I cannot say she is competent based on her SoS tenure which created more chaos than good result, and both civil and potential criminal litigation.

I have no idea about her potential court picks. With an opposition congress, she would probably go centrist.

Hopefully she won't be an issue in the next few months.

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
10. You make good points. Trump's SCOTUS list is really bad, though.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 11:00 PM
Jun 2016

I suspect I won't like Clinton's nominees, but I also suspect I will like them a lot more than Trump's.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
11. Apart from the author's Passion of the Bernie
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 11:01 PM
Jun 2016

and his rather subjective account of a symposium he was invited to I'm not sure there's much here

p.s. so he turned a roomful of students including visiting high schoolers against Hillary, or claims to have. Since Bernie clearly won't be on the ballot in November, what exactly has he gained?

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
12. I have heard this in the field
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 11:01 PM
Jun 2016

many younger PoC, and non PoC for the record, will not vote for her.

I know locals here cannot get it, but it is what it is.

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
16. They certainly won't vote Trump...
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 11:25 PM
Jun 2016

But they might just stay home, or heed the siren song of the third party. Hillary has very little to offer them.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
17. They aren't. The best evidence from polling data indicates that Hillary has won
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 11:28 PM
Jun 2016

the minority vote among all age groups.

And I can't believe that the writer of this article had the audacity to say that the Obama presidency is a continuation of the Bush presidency. Or that the Bush presidency was a continuation of the Clinton presidency. The differences between George W. Bush and Clinton/Obama are startling.

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