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barbtries

(28,793 posts)
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 04:51 PM Nov 2012

NC going blue!

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/video?id=8872515

go about 2 minutes in for the money comment: 48% dem to 32% repub in early voting.

by the way, i was there at Chavis Park poll monitoring when the guy was filming this piece.



Now to go watch a live stream of President Clinton over at Pullen Park in Raleigh, BLUE NC.
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NC going blue! (Original Post) barbtries Nov 2012 OP
Question RandySF Nov 2012 #1
how many republicans barbtries Nov 2012 #2
My husband is one Republican who voted for Pres. Obama Pool Hall Ace Nov 2012 #7
right where i live! barbtries Nov 2012 #9
Then we could have walked right by your place Pool Hall Ace Nov 2012 #50
you may have barbtries Nov 2012 #51
YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! nt ncgrits Nov 2012 #10
My father, for one obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #61
yay for your dad! barbtries Nov 2012 #70
Repubs usually vote on election day ProfessionalLeftist Nov 2012 #3
it won't be enough barbtries Nov 2012 #4
I hope you're right! ProfessionalLeftist Nov 2012 #5
the campaign's going after NC barbtries Nov 2012 #6
Thanks for all your hard work. zebe83 Nov 2012 #8
i didn't do much barbtries Nov 2012 #11
There John2 Nov 2012 #18
thank you John2! barbtries Nov 2012 #19
Thanks for your optimism marions ghost Nov 2012 #76
*Usually* but this year Rep. worked hard to GOTV in early voting SaveAmerica Nov 2012 #26
thank you barbtries Nov 2012 #48
I'm happy, but you have to be realistic BluegrassDem Nov 2012 #12
kentucky is not like NC. barbtries Nov 2012 #14
NC has always been fairly Independent bluemarkers Nov 2012 #39
i was very disappointed in amendment 1 as well. barbtries Nov 2012 #41
It wouldn't have passed if it was being voted on tomorrow obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #63
then maybe we can bring the issue back up before the voters barbtries Nov 2012 #71
I think only the NCSC can overturn it now obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #75
NC is very different from KY obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #62
I think the enthusiasm is on the Dem side ginnyinWI Nov 2012 #13
yep. barbtries Nov 2012 #15
Thanks for the Report, barbtries! BLUE NORTH CAROLINA! Cha Nov 2012 #16
thank you Cha! barbtries Nov 2012 #17
I would LOVE to see that happen Andy Stanton Nov 2012 #20
what were the early vote totals in 2008? NewJeffCT Nov 2012 #21
It's not fair to compare to 2008. LisaL Nov 2012 #22
i don't have the numbers barbtries Nov 2012 #24
Early vote totals have exceeded 2008 by 100,000 votes. mnhtnbb Nov 2012 #27
Yep 3 to 2, Dems lead Reps. Here are the numbers ffr Nov 2012 #23
thank you ffr barbtries Nov 2012 #25
I believe in your effort! whttevrr Nov 2012 #28
i just did! barbtries Nov 2012 #29
I agree with you and I don't feel we'll have to wait a week to find out like '08! SaveAmerica Nov 2012 #30
see you then! barbtries Nov 2012 #31
I don't think we will, I think theh winner will have enough states that they will SaveAmerica Nov 2012 #54
No. Obama is highly likely to lose NC. Buzz Clik Nov 2012 #32
Great Obama TV ads running this pm vs Romney negative ones wishlist Nov 2012 #33
NC is not going blue Denise21 Nov 2012 #34
Absolutely. Romney essentially has NC locked. Buzz Clik Nov 2012 #35
Thanks for being positive. zebe83 Nov 2012 #36
it seems many DUers barbtries Nov 2012 #37
Thank You! whttevrr Nov 2012 #40
....... zebe83 Nov 2012 #49
Me too obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #64
The final polls had McCain by 2 points in 2008 too, and how'd that turn out, Denise21? Lex Nov 2012 #38
hey Lex barbtries Nov 2012 #43
get so tired of the nay-sayers Lex Nov 2012 #45
there you go. barbtries Nov 2012 #47
me too, especially ones with low post counts! faithfulcitizen Nov 2012 #53
Thanks, Lex obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #65
N.C. is definitley going blue! DemKittyNC Nov 2012 #42
thank you DemKittyNC barbtries Nov 2012 #44
Very welcome! DemKittyNC Nov 2012 #46
Taking anecdotal evidence at face value is not very bright. Daniel537 Nov 2012 #55
Taking polls at face value isn't very bright either... DemKittyNC Nov 2012 #57
well put DemKittyNC! barbtries Nov 2012 #73
I'll take your word for it marions ghost Nov 2012 #77
If you're right, I'm gonna need fresh underwear tuesday night lindysalsagal Nov 2012 #56
Latest detailed update from early and absentee voting in NC chapel hill dem Nov 2012 #52
NC Dixie Darlin Nov 2012 #58
Good to see you here! NCarolinawoman Nov 2012 #60
welcome to DU Dixie Darlin barbtries Nov 2012 #74
hey Dixie Darlin marions ghost Nov 2012 #78
awesome - lets win NC!!! OBAMAWILLWIN Nov 2012 #59
maybe that was part of the plan barbtries Nov 2012 #68
NC early voting is "one stop" obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #66
it's so great to hear. barbtries Nov 2012 #67
Just FYI... whttevrr Nov 2012 #69
i love your post! barbtries Nov 2012 #72
great post marions ghost Nov 2012 #79

RandySF

(58,799 posts)
1. Question
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 04:52 PM
Nov 2012

I'm not trying to spoil the joy, but how many are white "Democrats" who typically vote Republican?

barbtries

(28,793 posts)
2. how many republicans
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 04:55 PM
Nov 2012

are voting for the president? i'm sure the number is substantial.

probably more than democrats voting for the lying sack of shit running on the other side.

barbtries

(28,793 posts)
9. right where i live!
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 05:25 PM
Nov 2012

wtg! now to convince him he really doesn't have to stay in that party - it's going the way of the whigs and the tories!

Pool Hall Ace

(5,849 posts)
50. Then we could have walked right by your place
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 09:14 PM
Nov 2012

It was so crowded, there was no place to park, so we drove to an adjacent neighborhood and took the trail !

obamanut2012

(26,071 posts)
61. My father, for one
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 10:10 AM
Nov 2012

He is a registered Republican, but is now definitely a (Conserva)Dem. He voted for Obama in 2008, and voted for him again this past week.

barbtries

(28,793 posts)
70. yay for your dad!
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 11:22 AM
Nov 2012

i know of exactly one person (within my circle of acquaintances) who told me she "used to be a democrat."

barbtries

(28,793 posts)
4. it won't be enough
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 04:58 PM
Nov 2012

and with the news about his fraudulent windfall from the auto bailout, and his not paying taxes for all those years, etc, etc, etc, i think a lot of people will either stay at home or make a considered choice for the best candidate for the job. i just can't believe there are that many people who want to see a rerun (or worse) of the gwbush years.

barbtries

(28,793 posts)
6. the campaign's going after NC
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 05:14 PM
Nov 2012

Clinton here today, Michelle in Charlotte tomorrow. i am very, very hopeful that NC will go to Obama.

if it doesn't it's just going to break my heart. i know it won't make the difference in the election, but still.

barbtries

(28,793 posts)
11. i didn't do much
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 05:27 PM
Nov 2012

compared to many others, but you're welcome! i should be doing something today but i'm just jumping around DU and FB and watching netflix...

it's important. i think i read this first on DU: you don't have to love Obama to vote for him, you just have to love your family.

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
18. There
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 05:46 PM
Nov 2012

are still more Democrats that have not voted than Republicans on Tuesday. Republicans are banking on unaffiliated and Democrats to make up that deficit. I don't know about the 65 percent Messina quoted but Romney does need over 55 percent to win of the remaining votes left. The bottom line, it is an uphill climb for Romney on Tuesday. When I look at just Durham county, every Presidential election, this county has a high turnout rate and Democrats out number Republicans 3-1. In the early voting statistics, most of those voters have not voted yet. These are likely voters too, because they vote every election. Many of the voters Obama has banked in early voting are sporadic voters and new voters which don't show up in Polls. The Obama campaign want say it, but North Carolina looks pretty good and might be the biggest surprise on Tuesday because everybody in the media has it as a safe bet for Romney. I think the Obama campaign is sand bagging on what is really going on in North Carolina.

Even the pundits have failed to mention, Clinton's visit to North Carolina or Michelle's visit on Monday. They keep talking about Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Minnesota and Colorado, but the real story maybe here in North Carolina.

barbtries

(28,793 posts)
19. thank you John2!
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 06:43 PM
Nov 2012

an excellent and knowledgeable analysis. i think the rural western part of the state is the cause for concern, but as always, as long as the people get out and vote, the democrats win.

SaveAmerica

(5,342 posts)
26. *Usually* but this year Rep. worked hard to GOTV in early voting
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 07:16 PM
Nov 2012

I think they've pulled their usual Election Day voters to come out early and they won't have a lot more to pull from on Election Day.

barbtries

(28,793 posts)
48. thank you
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 08:23 PM
Nov 2012

more good news for the dems, assuming you're right about that. in the video in the OP they had one guy on camera who had gone to Chavis to vote because the wait at Lake Lynn was 3 hours. Lake Lynn is in a very red area (i live on the lake) and the early voting site has had cars all up and down Ray Road for the past few days, so i think you may very well be right!

 

BluegrassDem

(1,693 posts)
12. I'm happy, but you have to be realistic
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 05:31 PM
Nov 2012

There are a lot of Dixiecrats in the south. I live in Kentucky. Dems far outnumber Repugs in registration, but most white Dems will vote for Romney. I anticipate a lot of white Dems will vote for Romney in N.C. Just saying more Dems are beating Repugs in voting doesn't mean too much in the south unfortunately.

barbtries

(28,793 posts)
14. kentucky is not like NC.
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 05:39 PM
Nov 2012

which elected Obama in 2008. I feel for you being in a state where you basically know that your candidate cannot win. but NC is not like Kentucky, or Tennessee, or SC, or the deep south states. It has gone blue and it can go blue again. that is realistic. i can be wrong, i'm not pretending otherwise, but i can be right, too.

Tuesday tells the story. keep your fingers crossed for NC!

bluemarkers

(536 posts)
39. NC has always been fairly Independent
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 07:48 PM
Nov 2012

last to leave the Union in the war of northern aggression, (I kid) the first to rejoin the union once it was over, A part of NC left during the war, we even have a Union County. I realize that was a long time ago, however...

Now we have several urban areas Charlotte, Raleigh/Durham, Greensboro, Ashville etc that are highly democratic. The Democratic voters in these areas simply outnumber the Republicans in the rural areas. We've lost a lot of industry - from high tech to furniture to textiles - and we have a large military population, probably areas around Fayetteville and Jacksonville will probably be red. otoh, the coast benefited from more vacationers over the past few years, and they really understand the need for FEMA.

I was very very disappointed with Amendment one, and felt the church freaks were better organized.

obamanut2012

(26,071 posts)
63. It wouldn't have passed if it was being voted on tomorrow
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 10:13 AM
Nov 2012

I stand by that.

They broke NC law to get it on the primary ballot, and then lied in TV ads about what it was.

barbtries

(28,793 posts)
71. then maybe we can bring the issue back up before the voters
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 11:23 AM
Nov 2012

before much more time passes?

public sentiment regarding gay marriage is speeding to the left. i'm not arguing with you though i didn't know about the law being broken to put it on the ballot.

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
13. I think the enthusiasm is on the Dem side
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 05:39 PM
Nov 2012

Lots of repubs are going to drag their feet as they go to the polls, not vote early to make sure they get to do it! It is a "hold your nose and vote" election for a lot of them. So I'm not surprised that Dems lead in the early vote.

barbtries

(28,793 posts)
17. thank you Cha!
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 05:42 PM
Nov 2012

out of what? 4 replies, yours is the first not to rain on my little parade i got going on here!

barbtries

(28,793 posts)
24. i don't have the numbers
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 06:50 PM
Nov 2012

but if you watch the video at the link iirc there is better turnout this year.

SaveAmerica

(5,342 posts)
30. I agree with you and I don't feel we'll have to wait a week to find out like '08!
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 07:23 PM
Nov 2012

The factor missing from your numbers is with Independents and the word is that they are mostly 50-50 at this point with many starting to go from Romney to Obama. That is to be considered and factored into your numbers, and not many are thinking of much else except the cut and dry usual polling. There's more to it this time.

Barbtries, I'll see you back here on Tuesday night, ready to watch those numbers come in!

barbtries

(28,793 posts)
31. see you then!
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 07:25 PM
Nov 2012

i'll probably do the same thing i did in 2008: fall asleep until i can tune in to the announcement of Obama's election. it just stresses me out so much, i just fall out. in 2008 i swear i spontaneously woke up just in time to hear Obama had won.

eta if we have a rerun of 2000 or 2004 it's going to rake me over the coals. man.

SaveAmerica

(5,342 posts)
54. I don't think we will, I think theh winner will have enough states that they will
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 10:19 PM
Nov 2012

call it for him that night!

wishlist

(2,795 posts)
33. Great Obama TV ads running this pm vs Romney negative ones
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 07:36 PM
Nov 2012

I've been noticing that Obama ads such as the great Colin Powell endorsement and the positive one with the Pres speaking into camera are running (and occasionally the 47% tape ad) while Romney is running all nasty negative ads such as the latest one accusing Obama of having a campaign of hate, division and revenge. What a contrast! Way to go Obama campaign in providing more upbeat closing arguments.

barbtries

(28,793 posts)
37. it seems many DUers
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 07:44 PM
Nov 2012

are already conceding here in NC. well i live here and i cannot do that. i'll concede NC when it's been lost and not before.

Lex

(34,108 posts)
45. get so tired of the nay-sayers
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 08:09 PM
Nov 2012

NC would've never gone blue in 2008 if everyone had decided "oh well, it can't be done."



DemKittyNC

(743 posts)
42. N.C. is definitley going blue!
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 07:55 PM
Nov 2012

Those polls are full of crap and to take those polls at face value is not very bright. Trust me, I have seen absolutley no support for Rmoney here at all. Everyone I talk to is telling me they are voting Obama except for my parents who are repuglican morons but even they said they are not voting and that they could not vote for Rmoney because he is a liar and a cheat. Their own words. Telling people that Rmoney has it locked down because of a few polls is just not smart. Most of those polls do not account for early voting which is in our favor and even more impressive this election year then it was in 2008.

barbtries

(28,793 posts)
44. thank you DemKittyNC
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 07:58 PM
Nov 2012

that's what i'm talking about. this is real. we'll find out Tuesday (hopefully that is) but i am extremely encouraged.

DemKittyNC

(743 posts)
46. Very welcome!
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 08:17 PM
Nov 2012

and Thank You for all your hard work as well. It is greatly appreciated!!! Come Tuesday, North Carolina will be BLUE!

 

Daniel537

(1,560 posts)
55. Taking anecdotal evidence at face value is not very bright.
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 10:22 PM
Nov 2012

I'm sure there are plenty of people in Malibu and Manhattan who have never met a Republican, but that don't mean they don't exist. Like it or not, polls, when used to determine trends, are usually right and unfortunately for us the trend in NC is Romney. Nate has it as a 79% probability of going for Romney for a reason.

DemKittyNC

(743 posts)
57. Taking polls at face value isn't very bright either...
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 02:08 AM
Nov 2012

Polls are bought and sold to the highest bidder. I would take someone's word for it that is living it at ground zero then some "scientific poll" any day. I am not the only one from N.C. seeing this kind of positive reinforcement for President Obama either. You will get the same story from anyone on here who lives in North Carolina who is honest about their experiences and surrounding environment. The positivity around here for Obama is off the chats this Election Year. Back in 2008 there was McCain/Palin yard signs, bumper stickers EVERYWHERE. People were talking about McCain/Palin in positive tones and were all set to vote for them. It was sickening to be around anyone around here back in 2008. This year, not a peep in favor of Rmoney. No signs, no bumper stickers. If anyone talks about the election I have notice it is all bad things about Rmoney and great things for Obama. Most of those "polls" you are putting your faith in do not account for early voting at all which has already surpassed 2008 for both Dems and African-American Dems getting out to the polls and voting. The only way this State is going red this year is if they steal it big time. Which as we all know is possible of course but I am not even thinking about that. I refuse to be a doom and gloomer and scream we are all fucked or give up hope on my own State just because some "polls" are leaning towards Rmoney. For the people who are believing in this Doom and Gloom situation well, that just isn't very bright.

barbtries

(28,793 posts)
73. well put DemKittyNC!
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 11:30 AM
Nov 2012

we just can't give up because of some bullshit polls. as Lex said, all the nay-saying gets on my nerves.

chapel hill dem

(228 posts)
52. Latest detailed update from early and absentee voting in NC
Sun Nov 4, 2012, 09:48 PM
Nov 2012

As of today:

No votes for a specific candidate have been counted yet.
Note: As a life-long North Carolinian, I need to point out that registration and voting patterns are not the same. Many registered Democrats are older blue dogs (conservative) and the unaffiliated voters are all over the map any given year. Anyone to call themselves "republican" is a real republican.
The last column in the 2012 list is the change in % "market share" from 2008 to 2012 calculated in %

Looking forward to a huge ground game!


2008 Registered Democrats 1,347,703 51.56%
Registered Republicans 783,492 29.98%
Unaffiliated Voters 480,823 18.40%
Libertarian 1,791 0.07%
Total 2,613,809

2012 Registered Democrats 1,300,775 47.67% - 7.54%
Registered Republicans 858,724 31.47% + 4.97%
Unaffiliated Voters 563,139 20.64% + 12.17%
Libertarian 6,017 0.22%
Total 2,728,655


More detail at source:
http://www.carolinatransparency.com/votetracker/

sorry about the formatting!

Dixie Darlin

(5 posts)
58. NC
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 07:50 AM
Nov 2012

Hi everyone! I have been looking all day for some place to express my anger on! An FB friend told me to come here..LOL

I am in NC and this is a quirky state!

I think we have it, just from what I have seen in the Greensboro area.

But as you said, we have a lot of Blue Dogs here and that has me worried. I know McCrory has it won, but that doesn't mean the whole state is going repub!

I want a mandate! I want NC!!

Local news is not helpful on this! All I hear is Romnoid is winning. I just can't accept that, as I have seen too many people voting here in Greensboro that I know are not voting for the liar! My friend and I have driven around in the last several days to polling areas and it is predominately AA voters! Which gives us hope!
Anyone working on the campaign here would be helpful! Neither of us can sleep at night. We are wound tighter than a clock!
Sorry If my first post is nuts! I am just really wound up!

OBAMAWILLWIN

(20 posts)
59. awesome - lets win NC!!!
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 09:45 AM
Nov 2012

I always thought we had a shot at NC but the right wing nut jobs all say NC was in their column. OBAMA/BIDEN 2012

barbtries

(28,793 posts)
68. maybe that was part of the plan
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 11:20 AM
Nov 2012

let the republicans get complacent and vacuum up the votes while they're busy elsewhere? i don't know, but i know we have a chance! i know we do.

obamanut2012

(26,071 posts)
66. NC early voting is "one stop"
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 10:21 AM
Nov 2012

You can register and vote at the same time, and those voters aren't counted in the "who voted" numbers. Or so my BoE told me when I asked. So, all those college kids in Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill, Charlotte, Greensboro, Asheville, Boone, etc. haven't been counted. All of those new minority voters haven't, either.

Also, I am registered as Unaffiliated, and I voted for Obama/Biden and then straight ticket Dem. My father is a registered Republican, and he voted exactly as I did.

Too many constant Romney TV ads and robocalls for him to be up by 2.5% in internal polls. No way.

whttevrr

(2,345 posts)
69. Just FYI...
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 11:21 AM
Nov 2012

I was registered as a Republican for more than 20 years. I am disgusted by what has become the Republican Party. I voted for Obama in 2008 and was going to keep my affiliation to be a spoiler in Republican Primaries.

But... When I voted in this years primary. The person checking me in called out "He's Republican" to the person giving out the ballot materials. I cringed. In that moment I remember looking over my shoulder to see if anyone heard what he called me. I felt shamed.

I changed my registration that day. I thought it did not matter what party I was in before that moment. But in that moment of shame I knew that I could not be a part of the party that has become a fun house mirror reflection of how it started. http://whateverworks4you.blogspot.com/2012/07/new-american-independent.html

I do not think I will ever vote republican again. What the Republicans have done to Our President, and Our Country, disgusts me to my core. It is not funny anymore. I can't just laugh at the loony right and and be a part of such a hatefulness. And, I do not believe I am the only one who feels this way.

I believe more Republicans will vote for President Obama than most can imagine. I am one of them who cannot be a part of their madness anymore. I am not alone.

Our President deserves another term

Thank you barbtries for your efforts. They are not in vain; because if not for anything else, you have shown me that there is reason to hope. Your efforts have directly touched the hearts of many seen and unseen. You are a hero.

Thank You!

barbtries

(28,793 posts)
72. i love your post!
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 11:26 AM
Nov 2012

you should put this in an OP.

it really validates my feeling about the republicans since the disaster of the bush presidency. i have often wondered whether they weren't embarrassed to be republican. now i know: yes!

glad to have you on board as a democrat voting for democrats whttevrr!

i don't think i'm any kind of hero - others have done so much, day in and day out for the duration of the campaign. but i thank you for your kind words.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
79. great post
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 07:11 PM
Nov 2012


The R party is not what it used to be--it's been hijacked...

2012 = Sanity v Insanity

(no matter what your affiliation or non)
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