Obama Says The Democratic Nominee Will Be Clear Next Week

[brooklynite]

Huffington Post:

ELKHART, Ind (Reuters) - President Barack Obama said on Wednesday he expected the winner of the Democratic presidential nominating race would be clear next week after Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders compete in races in California and New Jersey.

“I think that there has been a healthy debate in the Democratic Party, and it’s almost over,” Obama said during a town hall-style event broadcast by PBS.

People will “probably have a pretty good sense next week,” of who the nominee will be, Obama said.

I wonder who it could be.....

[SFnomad]

1. Under the bus President Obama goes ... n/t

[uponit7771]

2. Most of em hated him anyway

[Skid Rogue]

11. He's got great company.....

The "under the bus gang" wouldn't be complete without our President.

God, what I wouldn't give to be a fly on a gasket under that particular bus.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

26. Ain't that the truth, my brother.

[JimDandy]

37. This is unnecessary bashing. Most Bernie Sanders supporters and/or Progressives don't HATE Obama.

And we are not monolithic. I may not like that he supported Universal Health Insurance instead of Universal, single-payer Health Care, like Bill before him and now Hillary, but I don't hate him. I could give an entire laundry list of reasons why I don't agree with many of his policies and some of the actions he has taken, but it's not important for purposes of this post. But I don't hate him. No politician is worthy of any emotional investment like that from me (Do YOU invest time/emotion in hating a politician?!).

[uponit7771]

50. Strawman, never said "all"... nice try though

[JimDandy]

55. Most or All--My argument did not hinge on the difference in quantity,

it hinged on the broad bush. But you knew that, so your return post is intellectually dishonest. Just so there is no ambiguity for you to wiggle with, check my post again...

[saidsimplesimon]

76. JimDandy, we agree. I am a Senator Sanders

supporter, not a Hillary hater.

[Number23]

47. And never even tried to hide it. But then act shocked that the reast of us saw it and damn sure

haven't forgotten.

[uponit7771]

51. Yeap, they'll act like the some of the threads they rec'd into the 80s and 100s don't exist

[Renew Deal]

6. They hated him already

[Cali_Democrat]

7. The Bernites threw him under the bus years ago. nt

[democrattotheend]

91. That is not true

Many of us love the president and wish we could give him a third term. I conducted a poll on here a while ago that showed that a lot of people in both camps (probably more in the Hillary camp though) would rather have another 4 years of Obama than have their candidate become president. (I'm honestly not sure if I fall in that camp - if Obama could run again I'd be really torn between him and Bernie)

[Lord Magus]

98. Remember that Bernie wanted Obama to be primaried in 2012.

So I'm sure there are a lot of BernieOrBust types who don't like Obama.

[George II]

63. Truer words were never spoken. Look at some of the replies below.

[MineralMan]

65. That has been tried. President Obama broke the bus

that tried to roll over him. It's in the junkyard now.

[democrattotheend]

90. No, but I am a little disappointed in him - not for the reason you might think

I am a little disappointed that he is treating next Tuesday as the finish line, because it feels like an F-U to the voters of DC, for him to wait so long to endorse, long after Hillary mathematically had it all but locked down, but then decide DC voters are not important enough to wait for. I know he is itching to get out there and help bring the party back together, but I don't see why he can't wait another week to avoid trivializing a primary held by voters who already get such a raw deal in terms of representation.

[SFnomad]

92. When he was in this exact same position in 2008, it was considered the finish line

That is why he is treating it the same way

[democrattotheend]

94. DC had its primary earlier in 2008

In 2008, the DC primary was in mid-February, the same night as Maryland and Virginia.

I thought the 2008 schedule was better in a lot of ways.

[SFnomad]

95. It was way too front loaded and SuperDuper Tuesday had something like 24 states in it and nearly 1/2

the total of pledged delegates. I had no issue with the compressed schedule or even SuperDuper Tuesday ... but if they were going to do that, don't start the voting until like March or April.

[BeyondGeography]

3. He's pretty piped in...you think he'd know about the looming indictments

[SFnomad]

4. I actually got one of the BS cheerleaders to admit they were hoping for indictments ... pathetic n/t

[okasha]

5. Ooooooo, that man looks absolutely terrified.

You have to wonder about the Bros' clinging to the idea that their soon-to-be-sidelined candidate (and they themselves, by assocation) TERRIFY those who disagree with them. It's a fantasy that attempts to mask weakness as well as wish-fulfilment.

[Cha]

27. Hey okasha~ you got juried.. somebody was wah wah wah..

On Wed Jun 1, 2016, 08:51 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Ooooooo, that man looks absolutely terrified.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2105719

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Sexist. There are women of all ages and colors who support Bernie Sanders.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed Jun 1, 2016, 08:58 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: If you can't take losing, stay out of GD : P. In the meantime, quit jury shopping.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Sexist? Lol. Frivolous alert.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: What?! You alert makes no sense.. The post is correct.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I don't understand the alert
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I'm looking forward to the end of the primaries, when I can vote against stuff like this. Not yet, though.

[rhett o rick]

35. Yep, Sanders supporters have been banned from juries.

[zappaman]

45. Well Rick...

If you're as charming with your jury comments as you are with all your other DU comments, it's easy to see why you don't get called much.
I have faith Skinner is smart enough to see what's going on.

[bettyellen]

48. Is that why I've been getting on 3-4 juries a day lately?

[DesertRat]

66. The reason why

Is because members (regardless of who they support) who make inappropriate comments in juror comments lose their right to be jurors. I've been on juries where the comments have been worse than the alerted post!

[bettyellen]

74. Also because they ignored nasty personal attacks- I used to see that often and only be on juries 1-2

A week, now it's 2-4 a day and I rarely see it. The quality of the juries has gone up.

[DesertRat]

77. I agree with you

I serve on juries about 2x a day and I rarely see nasty juror comments anymore.

[rhett o rick]

75. Yeah right. That's a good rationalization. But there is no notice and no way

to tell why someone was banned. I think it is a convenient way to even the odds here just like letting a disproportionate number of Clinton supporters in MIRT and the Host Forum. I am sure there is a rationalization that Sanders supporters deserve to be kept under control on a site that supports Clinton.

[DesertRat]

80. You can believe what you like

But people who are blocked from serving on juries need to be honest with themselves about their juror comments and/or voting to leave truly hideable posts. This goes for supporters of both candidates.
Since you believe that there is a site-wide conspiracy against Sanders supporters, I don't know why you'd want to stay here.

[rhett o rick]

86. "Since you believe that there is a site-wide conspiracy against Sanders supporters, I don't know why

you'd want to stay here." Exactly

[zappaman]

87. Is that a goodbye, Rick?

I hope not!
What would Thomas Paine say?

[okasha]

36. Thanks, Cha.

Too funny.

Looks like a sensible jury got it, though.

[Cha]

39. You're welcome, buddy.

Hillary

[okasha]

44. I think our Prez looks not only fearless but debonair.

That seems to upset the folks who think they're such bugbears.

(Aiii, dios mio! I've just insulted insects and bears!)

[JimDandy]

82. Yep, too funny

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Hey there, Hillary Brah.

We female Bernie Bros have been too sensitive about the Hillary Brah's cute name for all of us Bernie supporters. I've realized the error of my ways and vow to never again send a "this is sexist" jury alert on any more Hillary Brahs' posts containing the term Bernie Bros. Yes indeed a sensible jury approved of your Hillary Brah's decidedly (by a 7-0 jury!) charming term of endearment. We female Bernie Bros stand in abject apology before you Hillary Brahs and firmly declare we shall do no wrong again. All hail the Hillary Brahs!

Carry on Brahs!

edit-correct spelling of slang word for bro. "Brah is the slang term for "bro" which is slang for brother..a slang inside a slang. 8) THIS ORIGINATED IN THE STATE OF HAWAII!..." {Not "Bra"! Darn--it fit so perfect for with Clinton's "woman card" campaign, too} I learn something interesting every day still. LOL

[George II]

62. Ooops.

[JimDandy]

84. Shameful

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the way us female Bernie Bros have been carrying on about you Hillary Brahs' use of that term for us. I am mortified that I ever sent jury alerts on the Brahs' use of what I, also, thought was a sexist term for us females.

In light of these continuing jury decisions (7-0) to not hide those type of Hillary Brah posts, I am reforming my ways! I am apologizing to all the female Hillary Brahs in this thread (you even served on this jury! Now I feel even worse...) who were clearly offended by the thought that us female Bernie Supporters would ever believe your delightful "Bros" term for all of us was anything other than charming.

I see the error of my ways, Hillary Brahs, and affirm the right of all you Brahs to use the term Bernie Bros to refer to all of us Bernie supporters. I lie prostrate in supplication and declare I shall sin no more against Hillary Brahs!



edit-correct spelling of slang word for bro. "Brah is the slang term for "bro" which is slang for brother..a slang inside a slang. 8) THIS ORIGINATED IN THE STATE OF HAWAII!..." {Not "Bra"! Darn--it fit so perfect for with Clinton's "woman card" campaign, too} I learn something interesting every day still. LOL

[hopemountain]

34. i alerted because of the reference to "BROS'

and the meanspirited "attempts to mask weakness as well as wish-fulfilment" (sic)

the jury responses were even meaner - so i am posting it here for you to see, okasha because i am a woman of color and your post is insensitive and rude - and cruel to bernie sanders supporters such as myself.


AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your alert

Mail Message
On Wed Jun 1, 2016, 08:51 PM you sent an alert on the following post:

Ooooooo, that man looks absolutely terrified.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2105719

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

YOUR COMMENTS

Sexist. There are women of all ages and colors who support Bernie Sanders.

JURY RESULTS

A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Wed Jun 1, 2016, 08:58 PM, and voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT ALONE.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: If you can't take losing, stay out of GD : P. In the meantime, quit jury shopping.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Sexist? Lol. Frivolous alert.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: What?! You alert makes no sense.. The post is correct.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I don't understand the alert
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I'm looking forward to the end of the primaries, when I can vote against stuff like this. Not yet, though.

Thank you.

[okasha]

38. Sexist?

Not at all. If you think a gender-neutral term should be coined for women who call other women c***s, shout down and send death threats to convention delegates and party officials, and are de facto Trump enablers, please offer one. I'll be happy to use it.

My guess is that you prefer not to be associated with those practices.

I'm a woman of color, too, and I stand by my remarks.

[hopemountain]

40. so you decide to shove those ugly

posts in my face? i have not seen those posts here nor anywhere else. i doubt very much they are from true bernie supporters because bernie himself would not condone them. yes, your post is sexist and you know very well what i mean.

[okasha]

43. I am not referring only to posts here.

You can see examples online, on the news, in blogs.

The fact is, Bernie supporters who do these things are overwhelmingly white males. Most Sanders voters are neither party nor sympathetic to the misogynist, homophobic and frequently racist assholes.

Ah! And there we have it! A gender-neutral designation.

[DesertRat]

67. Apparently 7 jurors disagreed with you.

[Lil Missy]

54. That was a ridiculous alert. It breaks no rules - you can't simply hide what you don't agree with.

[JimDandy]

78. Good to know

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the Hillary Brahs are Okay with sexist terms like Bernie Bros. What was that, 5 female Hillary Brahs is this thread railing against a jury alert to hide the use of Bernie Bros because it's not sexists? And then flaunting the jury's 7-0 no hide?

Alright, this female Bernie Supporter is nothing but accommodating, Hillary Brahs.



edit-correct spelling of slang word for bro. "Brah is the slang term for "bro" which is slang for brother..a slang inside a slang. 8) THIS ORIGINATED IN THE STATE OF HAWAII!..." {Not "Bra"! Darn--it fit so perfect for with Clinton's "woman card" campaign, too} I learn something interesting every day still. LOL

[JimDandy]

81. Bernie Bros is now a accepted sexist term on this site and used frequently

Last edited Thu Jun 2, 2016, 07:51 PM - Edit history (3)

by the Hillary Brahs as it was the Hill Camp that coined it. No use railing against the Brahs' use of it. It never gets hidden when alerted on, so us female Bernie supporters just need to toughen up and ignore the Hillary Brahs' use of it.



edit-correct spelling of slang word for bro. "Brah is the slang term for "bro" which is slang for brother..a slang inside a slang. 8) THIS ORIGINATED IN THE STATE OF HAWAII!..." {Not "Bra"! Darn--it fit so perfect for with Clinton's "woman card" campaign, too} I learn something interesting every day still. LOL

[okasha]

83. It was the Bros themselves that coined it,

so perhaps your attention is misdirected. It was only after the media picked up the term in association with their bad behavior that the Bros decided that they themselves were mythical and the term sexist.

The faux outrage is rather amusing, though. Do proceed.

[JimDandy]

85. The first use of the term was traced back to a Hillary Brah

Last edited Thu Jun 2, 2016, 07:47 PM - Edit history (2)

as I recall. Will have to check my Bro archives, but am almost positive a Hillary Brah was given credit for it.

I have learned the ways of faux from the master Hillary Brahs!



edit-correct spelling of slang word for bro. "Brah is the slang term for "bro" which is slang for brother..a slang inside a slang 8) THIS ORIGINATED IN THE STATE OF HAWAII!..." {Not Bra! Darn--it fit so perfect for with Clinton's "woman card" campaign, too} I learn something interesting every day still. LOL

[B Calm]

96. I would report juror #2. No reason for the nasty comments!

[hopemountain]

97. thank you, b calm ~

hillary supporters will not win us over with statements such as these and the other rovian and brockian memes meant to malign progressives. note: even after hillary has pretty much declared herself the "nominee", the ugliness from her supporters toward bernie sanders continues.

[Renew Deal]

8. Things will get very obvious next week when Obama has a press conference standing next to Hillary

And Warren appears at a Clinton rally

[Skink]

9. The indictment is being handed down

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. I had this made just for you, lol

[bravenak]

16. Good grief

[Maru Kitteh]

22. Here you go Skink, DSB asked someone to hand this to you.

[JimDandy]

61. LOL, Skink has YOU on ignore too!

Unity? Oh, Hillary, you are so done!

[geek tragedy]

10. He's known for a few months nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

13. Could you please post this for skink for me and address it to him. I think he has me on ignore.

[geek tragedy]

14. Has me on ignore too I suspect. nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. I like this new image better... The old image had homophobic overtones, albeit unintentional.

[Maru Kitteh]

24. I got it for you!

[redstateblues]

17. Obama is at 52% nationally. In Bernieworld/DU maybe 25% maybe lower.

I'm a big fan- part of the 52%. I will miss him lots.

[CorkySt.Clair]

25. 52 is the new 60 the way our country is divided

Ill miss him too. I expect no matter how the 2016 election turns out I'll probably take the day off work on Jan.20 for a day of reflection.

This American has proudly stood by the POTUS through good times and bad and am proud of the job he's done in the face of OVERT FUCKING BIGOTRY and OBSTRUCTIONALIST GOP pigs.

[MFM008]

33. yes

exactly.

[geek tragedy]

70. 85% of Bernie supporters approve of Obama's performance

Obama is not terribly popular amongst the dead enders, but then again no one is for a period of more than 2 years.

[redstateblues]

88. I guess the other 15% are on DU

[geek tragedy]

89. Or at Daily Kos or Salon.com nt

[aikoaiko]

18. That's how you respect the process. Hillary supporters take note.

[brooklynite]

19. I'm perfectly happy to wait...until next week.

At which point we'll all know who the nominee will be...just like President Obama.

[aikoaiko]

20. yep. And then the nominee will actually be determined at the convention.

But there is very little chance it will change from the end of next week to the convention.

[Maru Kitteh]

21. PBO is chomping at the bit according to reports to campaign for soon-to-be PHRC

It's going to be beautiful to see.

[DesertRat]

28. I can't wait

[Maru Kitteh]

30. Right? It's going to be such a pleasure to watch!

Go Dems!

[Cheese Sandwich]

23. He said: "probably have a pretty good sense next week"

That's true.

But they wrote the headline "will be clear next week".

Maybe, but that's less true, because we have shades of meaning here. There are a lot of things that could happen between now and the convention.

[mythology]

29. The Democratic nominee was clear at the latest on March 15th

the rest is just posturing. So I suppose Obama is correct, the nominee will still be clear next week.

[Garrett78]

42. Yep. March 15th. Arguably March 1st.

But Obama stayed out of it, as that's what presidents do. Soon, though, he'll make it clear that he fully supports the presumed nominee. Talk will turn to who Clinton will choose as a running mate.

[JimDandy]

59. If you say so. We'll point to that date come November, then.

"Hillary had it in the bag since March 15th and still...."

I'll finish it in Nov. See ya then.

[Garrett78]

69. It was apparent by mid-March that Clinton would end up with more pledged delegates.

But that doesn't have anything to do with November.

[anotherproletariat]

31. How right he is! nt

[BootinUp]

32. THis is a clue to BS Supporters. nt

[jfern]

41. Obama would never have been President if they had rigged it against him

like they have against Bernie. Of course they didn't because "change" was a bullshit slogan.

[bettyellen]

49. Bernie's losing because he did not pick up Obama's coalition of reliable Dems....

He thought he could somehow "transcend" needing to reach out. It failed.

[jimw81]

52. The real reason he lost

He doesn't understand how all politics is local. Vermont is different from north philly. Plain and simple

[jfern]

53. He reached out, but David Brock convinced idiots that it was

Bernie supporters who were racist, and not David Brock and other white Hillary supporters.

[uponit7771]

57. The "idiots" were the ones who admitted they didn't even compete in the "southern states" were a...

... good number of black and Hispanic voters are.

But hey, fuck reality... seems like something Sanders camp does often

[bettyellen]

72. And accused people of using talking points the day his site launched! Brilliant.

[bettyellen]

71. Not true at all. People read his web site the day it launched and noticed

I think Brock picked up on what people here- and everywhere said the day of his first stump
Speech and when his website launched. But people's reaction was immediate and organic.
I've been here forever and don't pick up
Talking points from anyone. It's so disrespectful to even suggest that. That shit hurt his candidacy too. Good on you for helping sink his candidacy.

[Lord Magus]

100. It's not David Brock's fault that Bernie failed to expand beyond his core constituency. -nt-

[jfern]

102. A core constituency that gets 46% of the pledged delegates? Hilarious.

[Lord Magus]

105. He didn't see the need to reach out to the black community until a week before SC.

That speaks for itself.

[jfern]

106. That's such utter bullshit. If anything, he spent too much time there.

[uponit7771]

56. +1, Weaver and Divine admitted not competing in "southern states" & Sanders lost by over 2 mil votes

[Lord Magus]

99. Really? I recall Obama facing the exact same rules that Bernie is now.

I remember closed primaries and superdelegates and everything else Bernie supporters complain about being around in 2008. I remember Hillary having a huge superdelegate lead from the very start, and I remember them always being included in media outlets' delegate count, and usually without any specific notation about the difference between pledged delegates and supers.

What obstacle did Bernie Sanders face in 2016 that Barack Obama did not face in 2008? Because I'm not seeing it.

[jfern]

101. Bulllshit. The party did not launder money against him in the primary.

[Lord Magus]

103. The party did not launder money against Bernie either.

I'm well aware of the phony accusations to that regard but there's no substance to them.

[jfern]

104. It's been well documented. Denying it makes it clear you have no credibility.

[Number23]

46. "and it’s almost over” Praise the Deep Fried Lord in Heaven!!!!!!

[SidDithers]

64. Hehe...

"Deep Fried Lord in Heaven"



Nicely done.

Sid

[Vattel]

58. Doesn't he realize that it is already clear?

[Orsino]

60. That's a cautious and diplomatic way to put it.

It's almost as though he would like to see party unity, or something.

[NCTraveler]

68. The WH has handled itself well throughout this process.

It's so nice having adults in charge. Clinton is going to be excellent in building off his success.

[Nonhlanhla]

73. It's been fairly clear since March.

And crystal clear since April. The rest of us have just been humoring the Bernie Delusion since then. Time for the pretension to end. We've got GOP ass to kick now.

[realmirage]

79. Apparently he believes in math also

[DesMoinesDem]

93. If you read past the headline you'll notice that Obama didn't say that.

[Skwmom]

107. Once again Pres Obama has the back of his fellow corporatist. I am shocked, simply shocked.

After 8 years of seeing how Obama governs who could have seen that coming

[AzDar]

108. He's GOTTA pass that TPP, after all...