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[Doctor Jack]

1. Wasn't he a huge George W Bush supporter?

Why should we trust anything he had to say?

[emulatorloo]

2. Pro Iraq war, but virulant Clinton hater

I expect the second part is what you are supposed to pay attention to.

[bjo59]

3. Christopher Hitchens was a life long socialist who went a little nuts after 9/11.

For some reason that really bugged him out and in his bizarre reaction he indeed start sounding like a big Bush supporter. He, however, continued to identify as a Marxist. An eccentric for sure (with incredibly retrograde notions about abortion, I might add), but an extremely intelligent one. His ego was pretty insufferable and that contributed, I think, to his political commentary immediately after 9/11 that brought a lot of "left" criticism down on him. What's an egotist to do when that criticism is heaped upon him? Double down, of course. The human psyche is a strange thing, for sure.

[Recursion]

12. And then when he was in a room with Andrew Sullivan shit would really go off the rails

Both incredibly smart guys, and both very much too aware of that fact...

[still_one]

7. Yes he was

[Scootaloo]

11. Hitchens was pretty weird on all of it

He voted Gore in 2000, then he voted Bush in 2004, then obama in 2008, then he dropped dead.

He voted Dubya in 2004 mostly because he supported the killing of Muslims. "Do you mean the Iraq War?" - No, because he was critical of the WAR, he liked to frame himself as anti-war, but visiting military brutality against Muslims until they were under-the-boot subjects of white western supremacy was something he would totally get behind.

Sort of like how libertarians are against "THE STATE" but love lots of policies that strengthen the state and censor opponents of the state.

[Waiting For Everyman]

4. What an interesting video!

So somebody was onto her before we all caught up.

Lots of people have been covering up for her, to keep most of us mostly in the dark this long.

[emulatorloo]

21. Fascinating as fuck if you like drunken Bush apologists who smear mothers of fallen soldiers.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x151567

[Waiting For Everyman]

22. Liking people has nothing to do with what's true.

I don't decide who to trust, and then assume that what those trusted people say is true. I evaluate what's true via my own thinking, entirely separate from who the messenger is. Source snobbery has nothing to do with validity.

It's irrelevant.

[emulatorloo]

23. Liars lie.

[JoePhilly]

5. Don't know anything about Hitchens do you?

Might want to go read up on him.

[mwrguy]

6. He's a drunken, Islamophobic, warmongering sexist

[still_one]

8. you nailed it.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

16. No. He's dead. He WAS all of those things, but he was more than that.

He was a very smart and fascinating person, and he wasn't all good or all evil. But he was a compelling writer.

[emulatorloo]

18. +1

[okasha]

20. Very concise, very accurate.

[grasswire]

9. that was enlightening, thanks.

Wish he was still here.

[emulatorloo]

13. You'll find this even more enlightening

Savor It: Transcript of Jon STEWART's Smackdown of Hitchens
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4473868

Daily Kos: Sheehan slander: Hitchens steps WAY over the line on C-SPAN

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2005/8/18/139529/-

[emulatorloo]

10. Savor It: Transcript of Jon STEWART's Smackdown of HITCHENS

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4473868

Tired of the bullshit, amborin

[rbrnmw]

14. thanks

[emulatorloo]

15. You are damn welcome.

Hitchens. WTF? A Viscious liar.

[rbrnmw]

19. I know I couldn't stand him

[RandySF]

17. That raging drunk?

Seriously? Why do you Berners keep scraping the bottom looking for Hillary haters?