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amborin

(16,631 posts)
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 12:43 AM Jun 2016

A Few Examples of Hillary's Foreign Policy Experience



http://www.nytimes.com/video/us/politics/100000004216623/hillary-clintons-legacy-in-libya.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/us/politics/hillary-clinton-libya.html?_r=0


Hillary Clinton and the Syrian Bloodbath

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeffrey-sachs/hillary-clinton-and-the-s_b_9231190.html



"This is the kind of compulsive misrepresentation that makes Clinton unfit to be President. Clinton's role in Syria has been to help instigate and prolong the Syrian bloodbath, not to bring it to a close.

In 2012, Clinton was the obstacle, not the solution, to a ceasefire being negotiated by UN Special Envoy Kofi Annan. It was US intransigence - Clinton's intransigence - that led to the failure of Annan's peace efforts in the spring of 2012, a point well known among diplomats. Despite Clinton's insinuation in the Milwaukee debate, there was (of course) no 2012 ceasefire, only escalating carnage. Clinton bears heavy responsibility for that carnage, which has by now displaced more than 10 million Syrians and left more than 250,000 dead. "




Email from Blumenthal to HRC, Concerning Toppling Assad
Everyone is probably well aware that HRC accepted continual emails from Sidney Blumenthal, an employee of the Clinton Foundation with business interests in Libya, all the while she was SOS.

This is from one of the emails he sent her, in which he forwards or mentions a viewpoint concerning the consequences of toppling the Assad regime in Syria. HRC valued this email enough to seemingly forward it to Jake Sullivan:




7. One particular source states that the British and French Intelligence services believe that their Israeli

counterparts are convinced that there is a positive side to the civil war in Syria; if the Assad regime topples, Iran

would lose its only ally in the Middle East and would be isolated. At the same time, the fall of the House of

Assad could well ignite a sectarian war between the Shiites and the majority Sunnis of the region drawing in
Iran, which, in the view of Israeli commaders would not be a bad thing for Israel and its Western allies. In the

opinion of this individual, such a scenario would distract and might obstruct Iran from its nuclear activities for a

good deal of time. In addition, certain senior Israeli intelligence analysts believe that this turn of events may

even prove to be a factor in the eventual fall of the current government of Iran.




Hillary laughs about the prospect of bombing Iran (is this the appropriate affect for a government official?)




Hillary laughing about Qaddafi's death; unacceptable affect for gov't official



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A Few Examples of Hillary's Foreign Policy Experience (Original Post) amborin Jun 2016 OP
June 16th can't get here soon enough n/t SFnomad Jun 2016 #1
lalalalalalalalalala frylock Jun 2016 #33
Oh god that is seriously disturbing arikara Jun 2016 #2
Very soon you won't have to be subjected to anymore of this oasis Jun 2016 #11
Covering it up arikara Jun 2016 #15
None of that ever happened after your magical date arrives. frylock Jun 2016 #34
Ahhhhhh the wonderfullness of it all. oasis Jun 2016 #42
that's your response to needless bloodshed in the Middle East?! Unbelievable amborin Jun 2016 #44
Don't be silly. It was a reply to #34 "magical date". oasis Jun 2016 #45
It really is disturbing. It is clear that she has an agenda and obsession with meddling in the CentralMass Jun 2016 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 Jun 2016 #4
Supreme Court Justice Kagan??? Herman4747 Jun 2016 #30
K&R SamKnause Jun 2016 #5
I think it's James Baker Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #7
It is Baker. pangaia Jun 2016 #26
That top video is just so disturbing Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #6
You can't tell that she isn't in agreement with Baker? nt BootinUp Jun 2016 #13
No. They are NOT kidding. pangaia Jun 2016 #27
they are definitely not kidding amborin Jun 2016 #35
Yep. She always seems quite delighted by this sort of thing. bjo59 Jun 2016 #8
She thinks bombing Iran is so funny. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2016 #9
She was laughing because she disagrees with Baker. Doh. nt BootinUp Jun 2016 #12
I didn't get disagreeing from that. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2016 #14
She is talking about what Iran was saying. Double Doh..nt BootinUp Jun 2016 #18
Listening to it again, on that I do agree with you. nt Waiting For Everyman Jun 2016 #20
Please note the video has been cut so you don't even hear the question. BootinUp Jun 2016 #21
Like Hillary, John McCain also thought it was funny! nt Herman4747 Jun 2016 #29
Sure. The Syrian Civil War was Clinton's fault. cheapdate Jun 2016 #10
Disgusting. AzDar Jun 2016 #16
There's something wrong with her. Marr Jun 2016 #17
I love the way the lefties cut videos down to where you don't BootinUp Jun 2016 #19
Hillary threatens first strike "nuclear option" against Iran, did she misspeak? Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #22
Don't forget her good buddy Kissinger. jillan Jun 2016 #23
Bernie's judgement over Hillary's experience is an easy call for me. Scuba Jun 2016 #24
The deaths in Syria ar squarely on Assad's head, no one else Tarc Jun 2016 #25
now, now, she took the voice of some cronies over her own ambassador on Honduras, too MisterP Jun 2016 #28
this is by all means only a partial list of her misdeeds; also Colombia, where she sided with a amborin Jun 2016 #36
Plan Merida, too! MisterP Jun 2016 #39
forgot about that! is there any country she has not wreaked havoc in amborin Jun 2016 #40
Haiti! MisterP Jun 2016 #41
should be a separate OP! amborin Jun 2016 #43
To me, this is particularly noteworthy: Herman4747 Jun 2016 #31
yes, she is at least partly responsible for the refugee crisis, and the thousands wounded or killed amborin Jun 2016 #37
K&R - Pertinent in lieu of her Foreign Policy speech today EndElectoral Jun 2016 #32
yes amborin Jun 2016 #38

arikara

(5,562 posts)
2. Oh god that is seriously disturbing
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 12:50 AM
Jun 2016

I'd not seen the top one before. I have to stop watching her videos, it makes me sick to my stomach. She takes more glee in the thought of bloodshed than any politician I've ever seen.

arikara

(5,562 posts)
15. Covering it up
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 02:07 AM
Jun 2016

won't change who and what she is. I won't be hanging around for any Hillary Clinton love fest I can assure you.

oasis

(49,376 posts)
45. Don't be silly. It was a reply to #34 "magical date".
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 08:40 PM
Jun 2016

So that throws it back into the realm of something we all can believe in and anxiously await.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
3. It really is disturbing. It is clear that she has an agenda and obsession with meddling in the
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 12:50 AM
Jun 2016

Middle east that is bordering on manical.

Response to CentralMass (Reply #3)

SamKnause

(13,091 posts)
5. K&R
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 01:24 AM
Jun 2016

Thank you for posting.

I am familiar with the second video, but I missed

the first video.

She is truly frightening.

Who is the gentleman in the first video ???

He refers to Hillary as a Republican, as if that is a compliment.

 

Ned_Devine

(3,146 posts)
6. That top video is just so disturbing
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 01:26 AM
Jun 2016

This is the person they want as the nominee for the democratic party? You've got to be fucking kidding me

bjo59

(1,166 posts)
8. Yep. She always seems quite delighted by this sort of thing.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 01:35 AM
Jun 2016

It's pretty mind blowing that such a large percentage of Democrats have no problem voting for a person who loves smashing other countries so much.

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
14. I didn't get disagreeing from that.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 02:06 AM
Jun 2016

This was an enlightening part of it...

"And then frankly there are those who are saying, the best thing that could happen to us is be attacked by somebody. (laugh) Just bring it on, because that would unify us, it would legitimize the regime". (1:18)

BootinUp

(47,141 posts)
21. Please note the video has been cut so you don't even hear the question.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 02:22 AM
Jun 2016

People are attempting to spread propaganda.

BootinUp

(47,141 posts)
19. I love the way the lefties cut videos down to where you don't
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 02:16 AM
Jun 2016

even hear the question they are responding to in an attempt to distort the whole thing.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
22. Hillary threatens first strike "nuclear option" against Iran, did she misspeak?
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 02:29 AM
Jun 2016

A totally bizarre incident that went nearly unreported in the media:

Mrs. Clinton used the forum to continue staking out a harder line on Iran than President Obama has in public. She repeatedly threatened to take what she called “harsh” steps at the first sign that Iran seeks to violate commitments it made in the July nuclear agreement, which sharply limits its ability to possess or produce nuclear fuel for the next 15 years.

She said there should be “no doubt in Tehran” that if the United States saw “any violations in the deal” or an effort to procure or develop nuclear weapons technology, “we will stop them,” including, she added, “taking military action.”

At one point, responding to a question, she referred to using the “nuclear option” against Iran — usually interpreted as using a nuclear weapon — before her attention was caught by a prominent member of the audience, Justice Stephen G. Breyer of the Supreme Court.

“Oh, the military option, thank you, Justice Breyer. He’s a careful listener,” Mrs. Clinton said, reiterating that she meant a military option to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. It was a rare moment: a sitting member of the court rescuing a political candidate from a mistaken comment.


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/07/us/politics/hillary-clinton-islamic-state-saban-forum.html

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
25. The deaths in Syria ar squarely on Assad's head, no one else
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 09:16 AM
Jun 2016

Khaddfi's removal is something I'll always celebrate.

Iran continues to be a regional belligerent, and should be dealt with accordingly.

I and many others do not find fault with these foreign policy decisions.

amborin

(16,631 posts)
36. this is by all means only a partial list of her misdeeds; also Colombia, where she sided with a
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 03:53 PM
Jun 2016

brutal regime over union organizers

 

Herman4747

(1,825 posts)
31. To me, this is particularly noteworthy:
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 09:53 AM
Jun 2016
In 2012, Clinton was the obstacle, not the solution, to a ceasefire being negotiated by UN Special Envoy Kofi Annan. [Nobel Peace Prize Winner Kofi Anan] It was US intransigence - Clinton's intransigence - that led to the failure of Annan's peace efforts in the spring of 2012, a point well known among diplomats. Despite Clinton's insinuation in the Milwaukee debate, there was (of course) no 2012 ceasefire, only escalating carnage. Clinton bears heavy responsibility for that carnage, which has by now displaced more than 10 million Syrians and left more than 250,000 dead. "

amborin

(16,631 posts)
37. yes, she is at least partly responsible for the refugee crisis, and the thousands wounded or killed
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 03:54 PM
Jun 2016
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