2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWill Obama endorse Clinton shortly after she gets a majority of the pledged delegates
While it is theoretically possible that Clinton won't get the majority of the pledged delegates, it seems that most Sanders supporters no longer view that as a realistic possibility. And once Clinton has a majority of pledged delegates she will also have enough commitments from super delegates to get a clear majority of all delegates.
At that point, will Obama move quickly to endorse her, sending a clear signal to everyone that its time to put the nominating process behind them and move to the GE. I suspect the answer is yes, given Obama's knowledge of the history of the process and the fact that he too is a member of the Democratic establishment and thus someone with little reason to be deferential to the candidate whose campaign increasingly has focused on bad mouthing the Democratic establishment.
And once Obama says its over, it really is over. There is no way the supers switch so long as Clinton stays in the race.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,673 posts)onenote
(42,693 posts)Clinton endorsed Gore in December 1999. Bush endorsed McCain months before the repub convention and Reagan did the same for Bush 1.
Obama recognizes the threat that Trump poses and the need for the nominating process to be at an end and for the campaign to shift into GE mode. And he won't delay and let things fester for a couple of months. It will be soon after the last primary and will be the capper on a stampede of super delegates endorsing Clinton (including some former Sanders super delegates).
TimPlo
(443 posts)Well in 2000 Gore had 75% of the votes
Bradley dropped out on March 9
Gore was the presumptive nominee as he had gotten a majority just on pledged delegates and his only contender had dropped out. No one can claim Clinton is presumptive nominee till either she gets the majority of delegates off of just Pledged delegates or Sanders drops out, too do other wise is just being a foolish bias poo poo head.
And same thing with McCain he had the nomination on March 4, 2008 because Mike Huckabee dropped out then. Even though Ron Paul stayed in until July McCain secured the nomination because Ron only had 1.2% and need to have at least I think 15% to be considered a viable contender that can force a contested convention.(But RNC might be different than DNC.)
onenote
(42,693 posts)Obama already has publicly stated that we'll know who the nominee is when the voting is done on June 7. As a practical matter, he recognizes how destructive and distracting it will be if the contest appears to be ongoing until the convention. He would personally be pestered continuously with questions about why he hasn't endorsed the candidate with the majority of pledged delegates and enough commitments from supers to become the nominee. And he won't let that happen. He'll make it clear that as far as he is concerned, its over. Biden will do the same. And there will be a rush of previously uncommitted supers to the Clinton side and even some Sanders supers will bail out on him. The sense of momentum being completely in her direction will be overwhelming.
Obama, Biden and the supers recognize the threat that Trump poses and, to be frank, have no incentive to leave a crack of hope open for the candidate who has done nothing but bash the Democratic establishment -- a label that encompasses Obama, Biden and most of the super delegates.
TimPlo
(443 posts)I see your point now why has Obama not endorsed Hillary yet? I mean if he felt she was the right person for the job you would think he would done that by now. He must oh had some reservations about her becoming the nominee then I guess.
onenote
(42,693 posts)But then to act when the downside of not acting requires it.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Once we know who the nominee is, he won't pretend the issue is still in question in order to coddle people not willing to be an adult about the process.
He will endorse the winner of the voting, and start campaigning on that person's behalf against Trump.
fasttense
(17,301 posts)will continue. Remember when the RepubliCONS said that when W won? We were actually sore winners. It's just that the Supremes are as crooked as any mob.
I wonder if Obama will go back to wanting to cut Social Security after the elections?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)the results of the election 'sore losers'"
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,673 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)If Bernie some how manages to pull of a pledged delegate win by winning 85% of the vote in California, then hats off I'm sure Obama will endorse him.
Otherwise, Clinton will have won by getting more votes, and she will be the one receiving his endorsement.
Simple concept--win his endorsement by winning the primary election
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)onenote
(42,693 posts)He wouldn't be making statements like this if he was going to wait:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512105630
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Watch him make his endorsement at least no later than June 14, and more likely right after June 7.
Watch for a tidal wave of supers to declare for Hillary in that same window.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)...and shoot Donald Trump into the Sun posthaste.
Wait... What were we talking about?
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)Cobalt Violet
(9,905 posts)He's already blown it so why not make it worse.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)the fringe doesn't, but there's no pleasing the fringe
LonePirate
(13,417 posts)The ones here at DU seem to think he's going to sweep all of the remaining contests and then waltz into Philadelphia as if he cake walked through the primary season with only token opposition.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)But there do seem to be relatively few people now who think Sanders has a shot at 2026. Most are focused on "impending indictment" and a love affair with historically worthless hypothetical general election match-up polls that are sure to convince superdelegates to vote for Sanders in overwhelming numbers.
DesMoinesDem
(1,569 posts)beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)that wont stop remaining uncommitted super delegates to come out for hillary before the convention...in spite of sanders alternative reality, the campaign is over, been over for weeks
but keep suckering the donations though
onenote
(42,693 posts)Clinton endorsed Gore before the first primary was held. Bush and Reagan both endorsed their successors months before the conventions were held.
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)He doesn't strike me as someone who would blatantly skew the convention outcome.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)The refusal of the DNC to consider stealing the nomination for Sanders and its refusal to screw over its own voters does not mean the system is rigged.
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)Obama could skew the SD vote results by endorsing before the race is over, as in, Democrats value his opinion and if unsure, may well grab hold of his opinion.
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)where skewed would be a bias of observed influence. my bad.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)democracy.
He's under no obligation to clear the path for Sanders to attempt a super-delegate coup.
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)unless someone concedes first, or will they still hold a vote in that case?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)the convention is a bunch of party insiders putting on a show.
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)They don't count?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)like death, a deadlock amongst more than two candidates, etc.
they're superfluous and should either be done away with or reduced in numbers.
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)floppyboo
(2,461 posts)But, forgot about that. As you say, the SD's are there, like it or not, to be able to vote until (edit) AT the convention just in case. Think of all the money and time and hand-wringing that could be avoided without them! I agree with you, but then, you'd have to have some other kind of contingency in place. That would be a GD discussion, so, another time.
MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)And it will be glorious. Back to back to back Democrat in the Whitehouse, a Trifecta of awesomeness. Let's just hope we can get the quad by winning in 2020.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)on behalf of that candidate against Donald Trump.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)but party oligarchy will force him.
onenote
(42,693 posts)I think its simply his style. Let the process play out and act when the negative consequences of not acting requires it.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)onenote
(42,693 posts)is Sanders, if he plays the sore loser card.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)Orangepeel
(13,933 posts)onenote
(42,693 posts)They each have a vote.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)firebrand80
(2,760 posts)But he'll probably appear at a joint event with Hillary and talk mostly about "uniting to defeat Trump."
MineralMan
(146,286 posts)There really won't be any reason to wait and every reason to get the General Election discussion started. He's already going after Trump, but once he endorses Clinton, he'll be better able to do that, too.
I think we'll see a large number of important endorsements after the June 7 elections. Elizabeth Warren will probably be one of the first to endorse.