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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,708 posts)
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 12:26 PM Jun 2016

In two hours Hillary Clinton will be attacking Trump's foreign policy. Will you be with her?


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In two hours Hillary Clinton will be attacking Trump's foreign policy. Will you be with her? (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 OP
Though she would hardly need my help. Orsino Jun 2016 #1
Going to be interesting seeing her take. SpareribSP Jun 2016 #2
I'm pretty sure I'll use my big human brain and wait to here what she says. Luminous Animal Jun 2016 #3
"Hear" 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #52
Yes. I know. I was on my stupid phone and didn't feel like changing it. Luminous Animal Jun 2016 #64
I here you! 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #65
I'm a 100% Berner but I will support her torching Trump. Hope she nails his ass. n/t Peregrine Took Jun 2016 #4
I am sure she is going to tell him alienating 1.7 billion Muslims isn't prudent. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #6
The death toll in Iraq and Syria combined is approaching 1 million. CentralMass Jun 2016 #18
yes because by killing 1 million in Iraq and her husband causing the deaths of another 500k during azurnoir Jun 2016 #20
Fifteen more days DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #22
yep we know seems almost like you're really looking forward to the truth being forced to wear azurnoir Jun 2016 #34
I look forward to coming to a site where we agitate for our nominee and not against him or her. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #35
so what does it say when pointing out a candidates past record is agitating against that candidate? azurnoir Jun 2016 #38
Because it is a binary choice, Trump or Clinton, and denigrating one elevates the other. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #39
I suppose this kind of discussion could carry on in the Foreign Affairs group floppyboo Jun 2016 #40
something interesting and IMO funny azurnoir Jun 2016 #41
You mean there's another substrata of people who either failed math or passed Inner Party math? VulgarPoet Jun 2016 #43
yep azurnoir Jun 2016 #44
Come on DSB ... That's comment was just an "attempt to make HRC a stronger candidate ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #55
+1 CentralMass Jun 2016 #63
''I am sure she is going to tell him alienating 1.7 billion Muslims isn't prudent.'' Shadowflash Jun 2016 #31
Please see Post 22 DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #33
nt Shadowflash Jun 2016 #36
I have been insulted by better men. I assure you I have never been insulted by worse... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #37
Haha! Shadowflash Jun 2016 #42
Don't fall from the pedestal you put yourself on. You might hurt yourself. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #49
I'm with her! hamsterjill Jun 2016 #5
Not until I hear what she has to say. Joe the Revelator Jun 2016 #7
No, I'm not there yet. I'm still supporting Bernie. You go ahead and fall in line. B Calm Jun 2016 #8
I'll wait and see. She might come out with another TPP idea. dmosh42 Jun 2016 #9
not without a snazzier slogan reddread Jun 2016 #10
"..and that the land that I live in has God on its side" aidbo Jun 2016 #16
What is trump's foreign policy? jzodda Jun 2016 #11
its like this reddread Jun 2016 #14
This...right on. libdem4life Jun 2016 #26
My question: "Is she with me?" I won't know until I hear what she says. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2016 #12
Will there be any mention of Libya or Honduras? Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2016 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #15
She needs to do so in a way that doesn't make her look like him AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #17
Worst possible area for her to go after him over. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #19
Not with Kissinger as a mentor. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2016 #21
Fifteen more days DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #23
Today is June 2nd last time I checked. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2016 #24
Please see Post 22 DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #25
So? It says nothing about June 2nd. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2016 #27
Please see Post 25 DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #28
Please see post #24. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2016 #32
you have such an artful way of avoiding a question azurnoir Jun 2016 #46
It literally isn't worth my time to fashion more of a response. Consider the paucity contempt. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #54
ah so that's it azurnoir Jun 2016 #56
IMHO, of all the virtues the greatest of all is candor. That's why some work so hard to fake it. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #57
yes some do work very hard at being fake azurnoir Jun 2016 #58
That is why I would make a lousy politician or diplomat. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #59
Yes, we are well aware censorship is happening on DU. libdem4life Jun 2016 #29
And constructive critcism will be allowed after that date floppyboo Jun 2016 #48
Hillary represents reckless regime change amborin Jun 2016 #30
I don't go with people who waste the blood of my brothers and sisters in arms. eom VulgarPoet Jun 2016 #45
Hillary Clinton's foreign policy record is one of disastrous incompetence-- at best. Marr Jun 2016 #47
checking the names of those who responded, nope no surprises nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #50
I have previous plans. pangaia Jun 2016 #51
Her? DesMoinesDem Jun 2016 #53
I hope she doesn't propose invading any more nations. imagine2015 Jun 2016 #60
On foreign policy? Hell to the no. AtomicKitten Jun 2016 #61
With all due respect Aerows Jun 2016 #62

SpareribSP

(325 posts)
2. Going to be interesting seeing her take.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 12:50 PM
Jun 2016

I wonder if she's going to talk China and Russia, where Trump seems weak. She also will probably talk Israel, which will be interesting given recent stuff with Sanders.

Hopefully she talks reasonably about the middle east pushing back against the Muslim ban, that's a point that needs to be attacked. I hope this speech is uplifting rather than fear mongering, because Trump already has that market cornered. She could be a optimistic realist here and come off looking good.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
3. I'm pretty sure I'll use my big human brain and wait to here what she says.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 12:52 PM
Jun 2016

Then I'll use my big human brain and decide whether I am with her or not.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
18. The death toll in Iraq and Syria combined is approaching 1 million.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 02:30 PM
Jun 2016

We need to get out of the regime change business.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
20. yes because by killing 1 million in Iraq and her husband causing the deaths of another 500k during
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 03:12 PM
Jun 2016

food for oil debacle also in Iraq she reached and touched the hearts of many Muslims and that is why the largest Muslim community in the US supports

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,708 posts)
22. Fifteen more days
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 03:41 PM
Jun 2016
Skinner (61,770 posts)
1. After the primaries on June 7 (California, New Jersey, etc.)...

...we will announce that the primaries are nearing an end, and members will have one more week to "get it out of their systems".

The final Democratic presidential primary is Tuesday, June 14 in Washington DC. People will have one last glorious day of primary season on June 15, and then Democratic Underground general election season begins on Thursday, June 16.




azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
34. yep we know seems almost like you're really looking forward to the truth being forced to wear
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 03:58 PM
Jun 2016

the scolds bridle

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
40. I suppose this kind of discussion could carry on in the Foreign Affairs group
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 04:06 PM
Jun 2016

where I will go hang out again.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
41. something interesting and IMO funny
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 04:06 PM
Jun 2016

a couple of weeks back I was talking to a Trump supporter member of my sons extended family - and got told that a vote for anyone but Trump was a vote for Hilary which is the mirror image of a vote for anyone but Hillary is a vote for Trump

It's only a binary choice to those who's purposes it serves to delineate it in that manner

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
43. You mean there's another substrata of people who either failed math or passed Inner Party math?
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 04:10 PM
Jun 2016

Last I checked, 0 - 0 =/= 1 just like 2 + 2 =/= 5.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
55. Come on DSB ... That's comment was just an "attempt to make HRC a stronger candidate ...
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 04:23 PM
Jun 2016

per the up-coming new rules!

Shadowflash

(1,536 posts)
31. ''I am sure she is going to tell him alienating 1.7 billion Muslims isn't prudent.''
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 03:55 PM
Jun 2016

And then authorize the bombing and invasion of ANOTHER Muslim country.

Shadowflash

(1,536 posts)
42. Haha!
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 04:07 PM
Jun 2016

With your simplistic, fall in line world view, I find that hard to believe. You probably just failed to understand it when it happened.

jzodda

(2,124 posts)
11. What is trump's foreign policy?
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 01:13 PM
Jun 2016

I listened to his speech and took very little from it except that China rapes us, Mexicans are criminals and Muslims are dangerous.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
14. its like this
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 01:15 PM
Jun 2016

he will quietly consult with Hillary
who will consult with Henry
who will consult with Cheney
who will consult with the VRWC
and they will get back to you.

stand by.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
12. My question: "Is she with me?" I won't know until I hear what she says.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 01:13 PM
Jun 2016

Past performance on the topic of foreign policy suggests no.

Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #13)

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
17. She needs to do so in a way that doesn't make her look like him
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 01:48 PM
Jun 2016

If she starts in with the "Me too!" nonsense like she did with Sanders, she will just look like an idiot.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
19. Worst possible area for her to go after him over.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 03:08 PM
Jun 2016

Sure, Trump's foreign policy performance would probably be dreadful, just given the absurd things that erupt from his pie-hole. But Clinton's record in this area is one of war, suffering, and highly questionable decisions. This could backfire on her.

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
21. Not with Kissinger as a mentor.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 03:18 PM
Jun 2016

And not with a national security disaster she created, which she has lied to our faces about for a year.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,708 posts)
23. Fifteen more days
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 03:42 PM
Jun 2016
Skinner (61,770 posts)
1. After the primaries on June 7 (California, New Jersey, etc.)...

...we will announce that the primaries are nearing an end, and members will have one more week to "get it out of their systems".

The final Democratic presidential primary is Tuesday, June 14 in Washington DC. People will have one last glorious day of primary season on June 15, and then Democratic Underground general election season begins on Thursday, June 16.




 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
29. Yes, we are well aware censorship is happening on DU.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 03:51 PM
Jun 2016

Now, your point? Realizing that a minute number of Democrats even know this site is around. I know that's hard for the faithful here, but it's true.

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
48. And constructive critcism will be allowed after that date
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 04:15 PM
Jun 2016

It will be interesting to see how many alert trolls understand what that means.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
62. With all due respect
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 04:32 PM
Jun 2016

Hillary Clinton, after Honduras and Libya, is the worst person to try to talk up her foreign policy "successes" and the "good that she wrought".

My ability to stretch reality doesn't extend that far, and I don't believe it does, either, for you DSB. Some people can turn on a dime when it is illustrated that there is rot in the core of a politician. Some people take a long time before they see it.

I respect your opinions, but I can only conclude you are in camp 1. I do know that when you meander over to camp 2, or even if you don't, I'll still be your friend.

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