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This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 Jun 2016 #1
Good grief...talk about desperate measures. CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2016 #2
Really. Will you deny that there are high profile NeoCons supporting Hillary? Luminous Animal Jun 2016 #9
Of course there are! CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2016 #12
Oops! Sorry! Reread and got it. A big wave and hug to you! Luminous Animal Jun 2016 #14
Hey, no worries! CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2016 #17
Half of our D congress voted to invade Iraq RobertEarl Jun 2016 #3
her words... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #6
My gawd, we need her not RobertEarl Jun 2016 #7
Hell, they're willing to accept a neocon for a candidate, John Poet Jun 2016 #4
^This. AzDar Jun 2016 #5
Bernie has already been defeated Renew Deal Jun 2016 #8
no, it's about her speech... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #11
Now you have a choice Renew Deal Jun 2016 #16
What nonsense. Bernie's already been defeated. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #10
really? these points she made in her speech don't concern you? HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #13
This is mainstream American foreign policy Renew Deal Jun 2016 #18
THE END IS NIGH onehandle Jun 2016 #15

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CaliforniaPeggy

(155,940 posts)
17. Hey, no worries!
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 11:31 PM
Jun 2016

I've been feeling a bit paranoid since I got the boot from the jury pool.

back atcha!

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
3. Half of our D congress voted to invade Iraq
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 11:20 PM
Jun 2016

They have always been here.

What we are witnessing now, tho, is republicans lining up for H.

 

HumanityExperiment

(1,442 posts)
6. her words...
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 11:22 PM
Jun 2016

"Fifth, we need a real plan for confronting terrorists. As we saw six months ago in San Bernardino, the threat is real and urgent. Over the past year, I’ve laid out my plans for defeating ISIS.
We need to take out their strongholds in Iraq and Syria by intensifying the air campaign and stepping up our support for Arab and Kurdish forces on the ground."

Now she's throwing Obama under the bus? 'we need a real plan for confronting terrorists'? Obama doesn't have a real plan being acted upon currently?



"And one more thing. A President has a sacred responsibility to send our troops into battle only if we absolutely must, and only with a clear and well-thought-out strategy. Our troops give their all. They deserve a commander-in-chief who knows that."

Where does Libya fall into the category of 'well thought out'?

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
7. My gawd, we need her not
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 11:26 PM
Jun 2016

Her words are absolutely disgusting. I have always said she was a warmonger, she proved me right again.

And yes, she threw Obama under the Peace bus. That should win her a dozen republican votes.

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
4. Hell, they're willing to accept a neocon for a candidate,
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 11:20 PM
Jun 2016

and seem to be enthusiastic about it.

 

HumanityExperiment

(1,442 posts)
11. no, it's about her speech...
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 11:27 PM
Jun 2016

Here are some excerpts from her speech today:

"And if America doesn’t lead, we leave a vacuum – and that will either cause chaos, or other countries will rush in to fill the void. Then they’ll be the ones making the decisions about your lives and jobs and safety – and trust me, the choices they make will not be to our benefit.
That is not an outcome we can live with."

She will continue the current wars and promote the US 'policing' the rest of the world...



"Third, we need to embrace all the tools of American power, especially diplomacy and development, to be on the frontlines solving problems before they threaten us at home." ... "Now we must enforce that deal vigorously. And as I’ve said many times before, our approach must be “distrust and verify.” The world must understand that the United States will act decisively if necessary, including with military action, to stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. In particular, Israel’s security is non-negotiable. They’re our closest ally in the region, and we have a moral obligation to defend them."

When did the US need to become more imperialistic? when did this become a progressive / liberal position?



"Fifth, we need a real plan for confronting terrorists. As we saw six months ago in San Bernardino, the threat is real and urgent. Over the past year, I’ve laid out my plans for defeating ISIS.
We need to take out their strongholds in Iraq and Syria by intensifying the air campaign and stepping up our support for Arab and Kurdish forces on the ground."

Now she's throwing Obama under the bus? 'we need a real plan for confronting terrorists'? Obama doesn't have a real plan being acted upon currently?



"And one more thing. A President has a sacred responsibility to send our troops into battle only if we absolutely must, and only with a clear and well-thought-out strategy. Our troops give their all. They deserve a commander-in-chief who knows that."

Where does Libya fall into the category of 'well thought out'?

Renew Deal

(84,617 posts)
16. Now you have a choice
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 11:31 PM
Jun 2016

You can vote for her foreign policy or for Trumps. He wants to let Japan and NK duke it out. He wants to put nukes into the Middle East. He wants to kill family members of terrorists.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
10. What nonsense. Bernie's already been defeated.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 11:26 PM
Jun 2016

As for defeating Trump, I'll take all the help we can get in making sure he never becomes president.

 

HumanityExperiment

(1,442 posts)
13. really? these points she made in her speech don't concern you?
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 11:28 PM
Jun 2016

Here are some excerpts from her speech today:

"And if America doesn’t lead, we leave a vacuum – and that will either cause chaos, or other countries will rush in to fill the void. Then they’ll be the ones making the decisions about your lives and jobs and safety – and trust me, the choices they make will not be to our benefit.
That is not an outcome we can live with."

She will continue the current wars and promote the US 'policing' the rest of the world...



"Third, we need to embrace all the tools of American power, especially diplomacy and development, to be on the frontlines solving problems before they threaten us at home." ... "Now we must enforce that deal vigorously. And as I’ve said many times before, our approach must be “distrust and verify.” The world must understand that the United States will act decisively if necessary, including with military action, to stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. In particular, Israel’s security is non-negotiable. They’re our closest ally in the region, and we have a moral obligation to defend them."

When did the US need to become more imperialistic? when did this become a progressive / liberal position?



"Fifth, we need a real plan for confronting terrorists. As we saw six months ago in San Bernardino, the threat is real and urgent. Over the past year, I’ve laid out my plans for defeating ISIS.
We need to take out their strongholds in Iraq and Syria by intensifying the air campaign and stepping up our support for Arab and Kurdish forces on the ground."

Now she's throwing Obama under the bus? 'we need a real plan for confronting terrorists'? Obama doesn't have a real plan being acted upon currently?



"And one more thing. A President has a sacred responsibility to send our troops into battle only if we absolutely must, and only with a clear and well-thought-out strategy. Our troops give their all. They deserve a commander-in-chief who knows that."

Where does Libya fall into the category of 'well thought out'?

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