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kentuck

(111,052 posts)
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 06:36 AM Jun 2016

After Hillary's speech yesterday, I do not think Donald Trump will be the Republican nominee.

They will find a way at the Republican convention to nominate someone else. They cannot afford to have this boob, this incompetent, this crazy, this dangerous person as their nominee.

Hillary Clinton stripped him down to the bare bones and it was not a pretty sight. The truth in her words rang loud.

Now, after Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell's endorsement, their Party must make a life-or-death decision. Do they try to save the Republican Party or do they try to save the nomination of Donald Trump?

They will find someone else.

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After Hillary's speech yesterday, I do not think Donald Trump will be the Republican nominee. (Original Post) kentuck Jun 2016 OP
They may well choose someone harder to beat. flor-de-jasmim Jun 2016 #1
Very likely. kentuck Jun 2016 #2
I hope you're wrong Shadowflash Jun 2016 #3
It is the first of June. Lay off the polls until Labor Day. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife Jun 2016 #35
1. Will Trump's voters vote for someone else? 2. Who is this mystical saviour??? DetlefK Jun 2016 #4
I think they may choose someone like Romney or Ryan. kentuck Jun 2016 #6
If the Dems actually consider propping up Biden... peace13 Jun 2016 #7
Speech or no speech. peace13 Jun 2016 #5
It'll be quite amusing if both parties have ringers parachuted into the candidacy Fumesucker Jun 2016 #8
if a giant hippopotamus flew over the empire state building and farted a rainbow geek tragedy Jun 2016 #22
boob or not - he has received a lot of votes and cannot be dismissed DrDan Jun 2016 #9
Delusional DesMoinesDem Jun 2016 #10
No way to dtop him now, ryan just jumped on board. Nt Logical Jun 2016 #11
I hope they don't. Trump is a gold mine. Nt NCTraveler Jun 2016 #12
Either way is fine for me. auntpurl Jun 2016 #14
I don't think they can get rid of him now. auntpurl Jun 2016 #13
This literally never happens. Ridic. Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #15
Nope. Not gonna happen. 99Forever Jun 2016 #16
Its definitely got Trump and the GOP on the ropes. DCBob Jun 2016 #17
re "Not sure what they can do though at this point." thesquanderer Jun 2016 #19
That is a possibility... who knows... this has been a crazy year. DCBob Jun 2016 #33
If you choose Trump over Hillary, then you may be in the wrong place. kentuck Jun 2016 #18
I dont know why we all keep pretending.... Sivart Jun 2016 #20
they couldn't figure out how to stop him then, how are they going to figure out how to do it now? geek tragedy Jun 2016 #21
Choosing someone else at this point would have even more catastrophic results for the GOP DavidDvorkin Jun 2016 #23
I was wondering about this myself. Not sure he can hold it together Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #24
The tea leaves indicate a problematic scenario SheenaR Jun 2016 #25
Well ... he won't be President. JoePhilly Jun 2016 #26
He will be the nominee nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #27
I said that a few months ago Bjornsdotter Jun 2016 #29
They might as well let him lose. Many of his voters won't back anyone else, which is a certain loss. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #30
I had a similar thought. blm Jun 2016 #31
disagree MFM008 Jun 2016 #32
Would be nice Dem2 Jun 2016 #34

Shadowflash

(1,536 posts)
3. I hope you're wrong
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 06:46 AM
Jun 2016

HRC can barely keep even with this moron, so far, in the polls.

She can barely hold her own in a match up with the most disliked man to ever run for President, since they started doing polls. If they actually put up someone with a lick of sense, it won't be good.

 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
28. It is the first of June. Lay off the polls until Labor Day.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 05:24 PM
Jun 2016

But if you feel you must, then take a look at the latest polling out just a bit ago.

Response to Shadowflash (Reply #3)

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
4. 1. Will Trump's voters vote for someone else? 2. Who is this mystical saviour???
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 06:47 AM
Jun 2016

1.

The GOP-establishment has made empty promises and talked their constituents into being pissed at "the government" in general.

Now, after having been disappointed long enough, it was easy enough to talk these voters into being pissed at the GOP-establishment.

These people voted Trump in the primaries because they are angry at the GOP-establishment.

What will these voters do on election-day if the GOP-establishment undemocratically replaces their tells-it-like-it-is guy with another insider?



2.

Who could the GOP possibly field instead of Trump?

He has decisively beaten his opponents and the GOP made sure that anybody who's electable for democratic voters was hounded out of the GOP years ago.

kentuck

(111,052 posts)
6. I think they may choose someone like Romney or Ryan.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 06:50 AM
Jun 2016

But, in effect, they would be destroying the village to save it... Trump's supporters will not leave him in this election, no matter who the Repubs put up. It would be the recipe for a disastrous defeat. But, they would save their Party to fight another day, in my opinion.

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
5. Speech or no speech.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 06:49 AM
Jun 2016

It was always a huge question as to how and when they would dump Trump. That is why all of the hysteria about focusing on Trump and Dumping Bernie has been so nonsensical. We don't know who the candidate will be. Even if there is a process....you can't trust it.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
22. if a giant hippopotamus flew over the empire state building and farted a rainbow
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 04:35 PM
Jun 2016

that would also be quite amusing

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
14. Either way is fine for me.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 08:26 AM
Jun 2016

With him in, he scares away any rational Republcans, all women, POC, and LGBT. With him out, they parachute in a candidate no one has voted for and Trump's base goes ballistic.

Either way, garbage fire for the Republicans.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
13. I don't think they can get rid of him now.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 08:25 AM
Jun 2016

Too many people have voted for him. If they took him out, the Republican party would be a garbage fire. Of course, with him in, it's still a garbage fire, but at least they're retaining their voters to fight another day.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
16. Nope. Not gonna happen.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 08:57 AM
Jun 2016

Unlike the Democratic establishment the Republican establishment is actually reading and understanding the mood of the American public.

Trump will be their nominee and if Clinton is ours, he will be the next President.

thesquanderer

(11,972 posts)
19. re "Not sure what they can do though at this point."
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 04:20 PM
Jun 2016

People have pointed out that, on the Dem side, technically, even "pledged" delegates can vote for anyone they want, though they are fully expected to vote according to their pledge except in some extraordinary situation. I assume it's the same on the other side... would the prospect of Trump qualify as an extraordinary situation? (Similarly the electoral college is techically free to vote for anyone they want, so that's another emergency escape hatch against electing a total loon...)

kentuck

(111,052 posts)
18. If you choose Trump over Hillary, then you may be in the wrong place.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 09:03 AM
Jun 2016

You have consumed more than your fair share of the Republican brainwashing.

 

Sivart

(325 posts)
20. I dont know why we all keep pretending....
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 04:29 PM
Jun 2016

pretending that Trump is some crazy scary whacked out candidate......

When EVERYONE from the GOP falls into this category.

I disagree that Trump would be any different than any of the other potential GOP candidates.

A republican is a republican. Period.

This should not be taken as me supporting Trump. I absolutely do not. But I also think that we are helping the GOP by pretending that he is a looney fringe candidate......he is not....he is now the leader of their party.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
21. they couldn't figure out how to stop him then, how are they going to figure out how to do it now?
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 04:34 PM
Jun 2016

I think they've concluded the least bad option for their party is to let Trump get blown out, salvage downticket races, and institute their own version of superdelegates to prevent this from happening again--and they can point to Trump as the explicit justification

DavidDvorkin

(19,468 posts)
23. Choosing someone else at this point would have even more catastrophic results for the GOP
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 04:59 PM
Jun 2016

than the election will. And the election will be quite catastrophic for them.

Maru Kitteh

(28,313 posts)
24. I was wondering about this myself. Not sure he can hold it together
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 05:17 PM
Jun 2016

till the convention.

I don't think they can force him out, and he wouldn't tolerate that - but I wonder if he isn't looking for another door.

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
25. The tea leaves indicate a problematic scenario
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 05:22 PM
Jun 2016

A viable independent that can win some states..Romney, et. al

Leaving the Dem short of 270. R controlled House puts their choice in the WH

And it doesn't have to be someone who is running.

Scary.

Bjornsdotter

(6,123 posts)
29. I said that a few months ago
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 05:25 PM
Jun 2016

....I keep thinking they will find some type of last minute "Hail Mary" play that will prevent Trump from being the candidate. I havve no clue how they will manage it, but I have faith that the GOP can be quite sneaky.

MFM008

(19,803 posts)
32. disagree
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 05:56 PM
Jun 2016

They made this bed. They must lay in it.
Who will beat him that French(who?) guy? Gary Johnson (who?)
They are stuck with agent orange.
They will lose accordingly.

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