How does throwing eggs at and bullying of Trumpster supporters in San Jose

[BootinUp]

help us defeat Trump in November? Anyone?

[tonyt53]

1. Good question. All it was doing was providing the GOP with talking points.

[MADem]

2. Who is doing this? Have they identified themselves as a particular group of people?

Nowadays, I wouldn't be surprised if Trump hires people to protest, so he can "throw them out."

Sort of like the WWF.....

[NWCorona]

5. Me as well

[Press Virginia]

26. wouldn't put it past him but, so far, there's no evidence of this

How many people hear DT talk about Mexicans and Latinos being criminals and thugs, then see protests with a bunch of Mexican flags where people are assaulted and property damaged, and decide what he says is true?

[G_j]

45. It is entirely possible

Not a stretch at all..

[sufrommich]

3. It doesn't,it's a show of massively ignorant violent people

abusing other massively ignorant people.

[jzodda]

4. Yeah we don't need this shit

believe it, we will get tarred and feathered with it if this continues.

Trump will be able to run a law and order campaign and say I told you so.

[Autumn]

6. Does anyone here give a fuck that some idiot person threw eggs at some idiot person

who supports Trump in San Jose? Anyone? Sorry, I can't bring myself to give a fuck.

Now if you were the person who had eggs thrown at them in San Jose I will certainly try to sooth you as best I can.

. There. There. That was not a nice thing that person did to you, thank god it wasn't pepper spray.

[BlueNoMatterWho]

9. Do you "give a fuck" about this last night in San Jose?

[Autumn]

40. Let me check... Nope don't give a fuck. For all you know those are Trump goons, I realize

you kinda think they might be those bad ass MFin BernieBros and that's what you guys are hinting at but still don'r give a fuck and i have no intention of clicking on your video. Trump supporters, Trump goons what the fuck ever, get back to me when you have some facts.

[BootinUp]

10. Pretty obvious that *most* people abhor violence, could have been worse

seems very stupid to me. I will put you down as thinking it doesn't hurt anything.

[Autumn]

14. Yeah do that. It still won't throw the election to Trump .

[winter is coming]

7. What makes you so sure those people are trying to defeat Trump?

I wouldn't be that surprised to hear he's been hiring people to liven up his rallies.

[BootinUp]

11. The protesters own words on video? nt

[winter is coming]

15. Ah, yes. People on video never lie.

[BootinUp]

17. So they always lie then. Gotcha. nt

[cutroot]

8. agent provocateur

trumps own people stirring the pot

[bemildred]

12. It would not surprise me if someone paid those "protestors" to do that.

But some might do it all by themselves too.

But either way, yeah, Trump has to love it.

[Tarc]

13. I honestly cannot fault anyone for disrupting a Donald Trump rally

This isn't a war-loving Bush or a Communist-hating Reagan here, someone that you just disagree with...even if that disagreement is stark.

Donald Trump is creating a fascist movement, he is telling...not insinuating, not hinting, but in forthright plain language...his white, male followers that they are under direct threat and in danger of extinction, or at best cultural irrelevance. "The Mexicans are taking your jobs!", "the Muslims are tearing down your churches!", "the women are making your workplace into a safe space!", and so on.

This is dangerous, fascist, demagoguery, not just a simple political divide, and it must be met and resisted by whatever means are deemed necessary.

[randome]

21. Yeah, but they aren't resisting when they throw food or snatch and burn people's hats.

Those are sucker-punch-like actions. There need to be smarter ways to show one's utter disgust with Trump and the GOP.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

[actslikeacarrot]

37. "By whatever means deemed necessary"

Up to and including, what? Honest question, how deep is that rabbit hole?

[Surya Gayatri]

16. Stupid and misguided. Just plays into his narrative.

[Babel_17]

18. It accomplished nothing except its climbing down from the moral high ground

Why not throw flowers? Preach love and acceptance? Trump bullies are no longer scandalous news, they are just part and parcel of an electorate that has activists on both sides who are willing to break the law.

I wouldn't be surprised to hear that Trump security made it easier for this to happen, and/or provided an area for it to happen in a contained manner for maximum media exposure.

We should be very grateful no Trump supporter kids got bumped or bruised. Once again, we'd have become the violent left.

Do we remember how some towns wisely handled things when, for example, the Klan marched? They jeer and mock, they maintain the higher ground. Sure, if you have to defend yourself, defend yourself. But this wasn't that.

In my neck of the woods Sanders supporters protested at a Trump rally. It was all signs and chants, people wore flowers and were polite.

http://patch.com/new-york/patchogue/donald-trump-attends-fundraiser-long-island-live-updates-0

What a beautiful bunch, I'm so proud (please watch some of the video). Lol, I was canvassing for Sanders on the outskirts of the village that day, Trump's helicopter was buzzing overhead all day, ominously, some might say.

And yeah, it wasn't a huge stretch to think of that famous piece of film from the 1930s.

[BootinUp]

19. Good post. nt

[actslikeacarrot]

38. +1 n/t

[alp227]

43. Actually a teenager was chased away by a mob

I've heard that on local media. Here's an AP photo from San Jose:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

20. If I was advising them I would advise them to fly American flags as well as flags of their native...

If I was advising them I would advise them to fly American flags as well as flags of their native land.


We own the American flag as much as Trump does.

[Starry Messenger]

22. Nonviolence is always the most effective.

I think some were drunk bystanders who got in with the actual protesters though--the organized group was trying to tell the others to knock it off.

[BootinUp]

24. Agreed. But I would like to see more people speaking out against

the violence.

[Waiting For Everyman]

23. I agree, it's stupid and plays into Trump's narrative.

Using force against people is force against people, it isn't ok no matter who is doing it.

[MoonRiver]

25. I don't think it was "us."

I believe it's a loose and fluid constituency of the numerous groups Rump has insulted and threatened.

[redstatebluegirl]

27. It doesn't if in fact "we" are doing it.

I don't put anything past this guy. He has used "drama" all his life to get what he wants, this is no different. I think a lot of things that happen at his events are staged so he gets more free publicity, especially since he appears to be running low on cash right now.

[David__77]

28. It may or may not.

My own sense is that it will not help Trump if his rallies become experienced as being unsafe. I think that it will reinforce the image of Trump as on the fringes and may disrupt attempts to normalize him as a sort of "regular" candidate.

[seabeyond]

29. I do not see we own this. Who is to say? Trump offends. This is the result.

It is not ok. The people should be arrested and charged with any assault.

[BootinUp]

32. Public perception will decide who owns it. nt

[seabeyond]

35. I get that. That is why I think we merely stand on the position, assault should require repercussion

No one has the right to attack another.

I do not know who these people are or why they did, if they are even political or even offended, or just fuckers.

So, simply, regardless, it is wrong.

[Agnosticsherbet]

30. Throwing eggs is a legitimate form of protest. "A History of Protest Foods, from Eggs"

A History of Protest Foods, from Eggs and Tomatoes to Cream Pies
Food as protest tool has a long history, of course. Perhaps the first recorded food protest took place in 63 A.D., when Vespasian—then the governor of Africa, later emperor—was pelted with turnips by the people of Hadrumetum, who may have been angry about food shortages.

[BootinUp]

31. Granted. But does it help or hurt in November is my question. Also

there was more than food that was thrown, fists as well.

[Agnosticsherbet]

33. I draw the line at fists. I find it curious that Trump is followed by violence where ever he goes.

This did not happen with other Republican Candidates. We do not see repeated violent protests at Sanders or Clinton's appearances.

Trump lionizes violence, and there is nothing like a bit of violence to capture the news cycle. Now I can't prove it, but I have considered that violence at his rallies is part of his business plan to win the media and get elected.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

34. I get the feeling the people doing that don't give a shit about politics.

They're pissed off for being called rapists and murderers. They are feeling disrespected for having the trump goons show up in their neighborhood.

This may be political in the broadest sense but it sure ain't electoral politics.

This is how shit spirals out of control and fascists get elected.

[BootinUp]

36. I agree with you completely. nt

[trudyco]

39. Exactly. Not about politics. It's about being Disrespected and reacting

inappropriately. Often happens in a mob mentality, people do things they wouldn't do if they were on their own. I hope the police or local politicians find ways to keep the groups separate.

[Mohammed_Lee]

41. A mob with Mexican flags punching skinny white kids at a trump rally is not productive n/t

[Babel_17]

42. A quote that came to mind

“The personal, as everyone’s so fucking fond of saying, is political. So if some idiot politician, some power player, tries to execute policies that harm you or those you care about, take it personally. Get angry. The Machinery of Justice will not serve you here – it is slow and cold, and it is theirs, hardware and soft-. Only the little people suffer at the hands of Justice; the creatures of power slide from under it with a wink and a grin. If you want justice, you will have to claw it from them. Make it personal. Do as much damage as you can. Get your message across. That way, you stand a better chance of being taken seriously next time. Of being considered dangerous. And make no mistake about this: being taken seriously, being considered dangerous marks the difference - the only difference in their eyes - between players and little people. Players they will make deals with. Little people they liquidate. And time and again they cream your liquidation, your displacement, your torture and brutal execution with the ultimate insult that it’s just business, it’s politics, it’s the way of the world, it’s a tough life and that it’s nothing personal. Well, fuck them. Make it personal.”
― Richard K. Morgan, Altered Carbon

It's by the fictional character Quellcrist Falconer. She's an infuriating character, because we find her to be both uncomfortably right, and uncomfortably wrong. I do not want to live in her future, but I sometimes find myself fearing that I am, and that she makes a lot of sense.

[99Forever]

44. It doesn't. Clinton won't.