2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI Will Congratulate Bernie When He Makes His Speech Eviscerating Trump.
Just let me know when it's on....
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)Sanders didn't say he was going to make a speech exclusively about Trump, as far as I know.
Anyway, here are a few minutes about Trump from Sanders' stump speech:
mac56
(17,564 posts)Just let me know when they're out....
MariaThinks
(2,495 posts)So Bernie can only be an effective Democratic candidate IF Hillary gives him something.
mac56
(17,564 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,313 posts)A person is required by law to file taxes. Not so much with transcripts. Disclosure of one has been a standard for decades, the other, nobody really cares so much about. You can tell by the longstanding lack-of-give-a-crap that's been pretty much everywhere with the exception of a few die-hards.
Now, didn't Weaver promise the returns a couple days ago?
mac56
(17,564 posts)It's been done as an informal thing, but not required. So don't do the high-horse thing with me.
1992: "Controversy erupted when Mr. Clinton refused to release tax returns prior to 1980.
In an interview with the Washington Post, Hillary Clinton said, "We just feel we have gone the extra mile. Talk about accountability. We feel we have been more accountable than most people who have been in this position, and we feel very comfortable about it.""
He finally did after relentless pressure from the press.
http://ctj.org/ctjinthenews/2012/07/cbs_news.php
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)mac56
(17,564 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)mac56
(17,564 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)MariaThinks
(2,495 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)"Our message to the Democratic delegates who will be assembling in Philadelphia is while we may have many disagreements with Secretary Clinton, there is one area where we agree, and that is we must defeat Donald Trump, Sanders said.
Donald Trump is not going to become president for a number of reasons. And the major reason is that we cannot have a president who has insulted Latinos and Mexicans, who has insulted Muslims, who every day is insulting women in one way or another, who has insulted veterans like John McCain and others, who has insulted African-Americans in a very profound way
. Mr. Trump will not become president because the American people understand that our strength is in our diversity.
Bernie has been attacking Trump all along. He even stated a willingness to debate him live, which most Hillary supporters did not exactly support. They want him to go after Trump, but quietly and in a way that draws no attention to Bernie....if they really just wanted Trump trounced, they'd join me in eagerly supporting anyone who castigates Donald. Some of us have been doing that since the 1980's.
aikoaiko
(34,162 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)and narrative and those are good instincts for Hollywood but not for government.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)A few lines in the stump speech is great.. but Bernie can do better.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)supporters to address their ire towards him.
Haven't seen but a few throwaway lines in the stump speech.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)He would have eviscerated Trump in that debate that Hillary Supporter got all wadded over. Maybe try paying closer attention.
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)He has been "eviscerating Trump" for the entirety of his campaign, so your statement is based on a patently false assumption that I expect, given your established patterns here, is taken more in malice than in error.
Todays_Illusion
(1,209 posts)Last edited Fri Jun 3, 2016, 02:54 PM - Edit history (1)
mean Sanders isn't attacking and there is the obvious. Sanders challenging him to a debate.
https://berniesanders.com/press-release/sanders-calls-for-immigration-reform-rips-trump-attacks-on-immigrants/
http://dailycaller.com/2016/04/18/sanders-uses-demagoguery-to-attack-trump-for-being-a-demagogue/
Donald Ian Rankin
(13,598 posts)I suspect that Sanders challenged Trump mainly because sharing a platform with someone with whom he agrees on the issue most important to him - Hillary Clinton - would let them launch a two-fold attack on her, while both bolstering their own images.
Todays_Illusion
(1,209 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Rump is doing Bernie's job for him, so why should BS attack? Ethics? Naaaaa
Sivart
(325 posts)Romney gave pretty much the same speech, and it had absolutely ZERO effect in stopping Trump.
But, yeah, her speech was totally different.....
I don't know about you, but I have been watching all of this the past several months. Attacking Trump like this has been going on since the Republican Primary started. Everyone has tried it. Seriously, everyone. Every candidate, every pundit, etc. Everyone has been attacking Trump like this. It has had no effect.
So, what is different about this?
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)Hillary was speaking to the American electorate. Drumpf was speaking to the Repuke electorate. The former is infinitely broader.
Sivart
(325 posts)What was different about the content of the speech.....what she was saying......the points she was making......?
The only difference you have pointed out is the intended audience. Completely irrelevant to the content of my post.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)Here is your whole post in its entirety:
But, yeah, her speech was totally different.....
I don't know about you, but I have been watching all of this the past several months. Attacking Trump like this has been going on since the Republican Primary started. Everyone has tried it. Seriously, everyone. Every candidate, every pundit, etc. Everyone has been attacking Trump like this.It has had no effect.
So, what is different about this?
The only logical inference one can make is that you are arguing that all have attacked Trump and all have failed. I correctly noted this time is different because the audience is different.
Sivart
(325 posts)These are the same attacks against that have been tried by every republican candidate, half of the media, etc. over and over.
That is the point I was trying to make. That these attacks have already been tried.
I mean, we all get it....being president is not the same as being on the apprentice.....Every one of his opponents, and half of the people on TV have mentioned this to freakin death.
Does anyone think that they are the same? Being president and being on the apprentice? No, we all know they are not the same.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)Sivart
(325 posts)Ok, the people at the speech.....that may be a different audience.....but once it hits the news and the internet, I don't think you can say its a different audience.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)mac56
(17,564 posts)Oh, wait...
LuvLoogie
(6,913 posts)mac56
(17,564 posts)Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)Bernie Sanders goofing on Donald Trump over drought and climate change for three minutes:
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)CanadaexPat
(496 posts)successfully eviscerating Trump. Romney lite won't cut it.
Peacetrain
(22,872 posts)She did great!!!!