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portlander23

(2,078 posts)
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 11:39 AM Jun 2016

Vote Bernie Now More Than Ever



Vote Bernie Now More Than Ever
Jonathan Greenberg
Huff Po

Bernie Sanders has run the most successful grassroots campaign in American history, and his second American revolution provides the first real opportunity that We, the People, have had to overthrow our corporate-corrupted government and replace it with a system that benefits the public interest, our shared ecology, and a peaceful future.

There is simply no downside to voting for Sanders during this month’s final Democratic primaries. Bernie may still be our next President, despite the widely parroted insistence by a Clinton-biased corporate media and Democratic Party insiders’ that Bernie is finished. These are the same voices that have been singing the “may as well stay home Bernie voter” song since the very beginning of the primary season.

Bernie, not Hillary, is the one packing stadiums with newly motivated young voters and previously apathetic citizens of all races. Bernie’s momentum continues to soar, just as Clinton’s popularity, hammered by the latest report on her email scandal and a merciless Trump campaign, continues to decline. If Sanders pulls off an upset victory in California, which feels likely, and in other states during the next few weeks, then Bernie’s purportedly impossible dream may yet become our reality.


Probably won't work, but screw it. Go Bernie!
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Vote Bernie Now More Than Ever (Original Post) portlander23 Jun 2016 OP
Go Bernie!!!!!!!!!!! amborin Jun 2016 #1
K and R bigwillq Jun 2016 #2
Most successful grassroots? metroins Jun 2016 #3
Obama didn't run a grass roots campaign. basselope Jun 2016 #10
I think he did. metroins Jun 2016 #11
Explain. basselope Jun 2016 #12
You're using funding as a sole metric metroins Jun 2016 #13
That was in place already from Dean's 50 state strategy. basselope Jun 2016 #14
Not even close. metroins Jun 2016 #15
Yes, because of Dean. basselope Jun 2016 #16
Too bad sanders supporters don't how Bernie want to dump beachbum bob Jun 2016 #4
Are you just using a random generator script now? Jester Messiah Jun 2016 #5
Easily searched and verified beachbum bob Jun 2016 #6
I'm sure it's just exactly that clear-cut and straightforward. Jester Messiah Jun 2016 #8
Read it yourself.... beachbum bob Jun 2016 #9
Too late...my vote's already been chalked up for President Hillary Clinton... Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #7
Me too! nt anotherproletariat Jun 2016 #18
"has the most successful grassroots campaign in American history" GreatGazoo Jun 2016 #17
 

basselope

(2,565 posts)
12. Explain.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 12:27 PM
Jun 2016

Never heard of a grass roots campaign working with pacs nor does it get strong support from Goldman Sachs (https://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cid=N00009638)

Obama raised money from the traditional sources and the majority of his money came from large donors.

https://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/donordemCID.php?cycle=2008&cid=N00009638

of the 345MM he raised 243MM of it came from people giving 2300 or more.

So 70% of his contribution were from people who could afford to throw 2300+ at a candidate.

That's not a grass roots campaign by any stretch of the imagination.


metroins

(2,550 posts)
13. You're using funding as a sole metric
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 12:32 PM
Jun 2016

Obama's grassroots came from his campaign organization structure and support.

 

basselope

(2,565 posts)
14. That was in place already from Dean's 50 state strategy.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 12:35 PM
Jun 2016

Obama just used the mechanism that existed.. and the managed to dismantle it afterwards.

metroins

(2,550 posts)
15. Not even close.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 12:45 PM
Jun 2016

No.

You cannot try to say Obama's 2008 campaign was because of Dean, when Dean didn't even make it out of the primary (and I really really liked Dean).

 

basselope

(2,565 posts)
16. Yes, because of Dean.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 12:58 PM
Jun 2016

Dean was head of the DNC and built the entire infrastructure that Obama used.

Obama did nothing special or different in 2008 as far as campaigning and organizing went. HE was special and different because he talked about hope and change and made people believe that he had strong principles.

Sadly, it turned out not to be the case, which is why he lost so many votes in 2012 (over 13MM from his 2008 totals).

But he raised money from all the usual suspects. He used the DNC infrastructure that Dean had put in place.

There was no great grassroots movement... just a well placed infrastructure and incredible dissatisfaction with the GOP.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
4. Too bad sanders supporters don't how Bernie want to dump
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 11:45 AM
Jun 2016

Nuclear waste in a small Hispanic town in Texas...

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
5. Are you just using a random generator script now?
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 11:50 AM
Jun 2016

It's like something that Lewie Blewey guy would post. Seriously, not your best work.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
6. Easily searched and verified
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 11:52 AM
Jun 2016

Sanders was the cosponsor of the bill.. in 1994....he is far from a environmentalist

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
8. I'm sure it's just exactly that clear-cut and straightforward.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 11:54 AM
Jun 2016

And you're not at all mischaracterizing the bill or how it might have been amended, or what compromises were involved and what else was at stake... no, not you. Sorry pal, no sale.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
7. Too late...my vote's already been chalked up for President Hillary Clinton...
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 11:52 AM
Jun 2016

If only I'd read this convincing argument beforehand.

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