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Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 02:52 PM Jun 2016

The People to Bernie: Don't Drop Out!

We are going to push the tools of the democratic process to their fullest extent. We can use the democratic process to fight for a place within the Democratic Party. Even if Bernie doesn't win the Democratic nomination, we're building a different type of power by fighting all the way to the finish line. It's people power. It's training a generation of activists how to flex the tools of democracy to the limit.

What about all the screams about superdelegate math and impossibility? They aren't very convincing, because they have been saying the same thing since at least March 15. They were calling it impossible way back then. But it's clear we have had a huge impact by staying in the race.

Telling Bernie to drop out before the convention is trying to shut down democracy.

And a vast majority of Democrats want Bernie Sanders to stay in race.

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brooklynite

(93,327 posts)
7. We're delighted to have their input...
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 03:24 PM
Jun 2016

...they're welcome, having registered to join the Democratic Party, to become involved in their local Party organization and press for whatever issues or candidates they choose to.

You realize that other Democrats get a say as well?

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
8. In other words: those young whippersnappers need to learn their place and play by our rules,
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 03:30 PM
Jun 2016

and only in 40 years will we actually start listening to them.

The 20th century is over. I'm done with its relics. Those include Third Way and its identity playbooks, and its ever changing rules of the Democratic nomination process.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
11. That's a laugh. Non-Progressives here do not ever speak to issues. Where does Clinton
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 03:43 PM
Jun 2016

stand today on fracking? The TPP? Prisons For Profits? Invading Iran? Medical marijuana?

Do you think the ever growing wealth gap is good for the 99%? You must.

onenote

(42,085 posts)
6. Does anyone have access to the exact question presented in this poll?
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 03:24 PM
Jun 2016

It could make quite a bit of difference. For example, did it ask whether he should stay in the race through the end of the primaries? Or did it ask whether he should stay in the race through the convention? Did it ask whether he should stay in the race through the convention if Clinton has won a majority of the pledged delegates? Did it ask whether he should stay in the race through the convention if Clinton has won a majority of the pledged delegates and commitments from unpledged delegates sufficient to win the nomination?

It matters.

 

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
13. The exciting thing about politics, is that things change so quickly. The poll you reference will be
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 08:20 PM
Jun 2016

out of date by Tuesday at, say 8pm EST. My guess is that at that time most Dems will be ready for our presumptive nominee to be able to face her repub opponent unencumbered by any other distractions.

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
14. Very important for the future of the Democratic Party
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 02:11 AM
Jun 2016

that we continue to embrace and champion the issues that continue to bring tens of thousands of people to Bernie rallies (while Hillary hides in small grade school gyms).

Lord Magus

(1,999 posts)
15. By Tuesday evening it will be beyond just "impossible to win" and he'll have outright lost.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 02:31 AM
Jun 2016

If Bernie were to demand at the convention that superdelegates hand him the nomination despite clearly losing the primaries, that would be trying to shut down democracy.

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