Why don't either Sanders or Clinton have the simplest most honest

[Fresh_Start]

component of a strategy to combat climate change in their proposals?


The 3Rs:
REDUCE
REUSE
RECYCLE


the step which can be done immediately without any dependency on changes in law, political environment, or technology is REDUCE

Everyone who cares about climate change should take immediate steps to reduce the amount of energy they use.

its summer or nearly summer for most of the country.
Either don't use or minimally use air conditioning...raise that thermostat.
At home, close off unused rooms and prevent air conditioning from cooling that unused space.
Don't use an air conditioner in your vehicle when you can use an open window instead

Make every trip in your car serve multiple purposes...

If you can reuse something, reuse it or recycle it.

[BootinUp]

1. This doesn't work for you?

That’s why on day one, Hillary will set bold, national goals that will be achieved within ten years of her taking office:

Generate enough renewable energy to power every home in America, with half a billion solar panels installed by the end of Hillary’s first term.

Cut energy waste in American homes, schools, hospitals and offices by a third and make American manufacturing the cleanest and most efficient in the world.

Reduce American oil consumption by a third through cleaner fuels and more efficient cars, boilers, ships and trucks.

More details:
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/climate/

[Cooley Hurd]

4. From Fracky McClinton?

Um...

[Fresh_Start]

6. the president doesn't have authority to stop fracking

and I'm pretty certain that individual states which enjoy fracking revenues have little interest in stopping fracking

Now Congress could make a law which may or may not be upheld by the SC.
Though I think I saw a recent federal court decision which undermines the clear air act

[Cooley Hurd]

7. What IF Congress stopped fracking?

Would President Clinton veto it?

[Fresh_Start]

8. no

she wouldn't

but sadly, there won't be any drive in Congress to do so...until there is reasonable energy replacements
now if everyone would cut their energy use by 1/3....we wouldn't need fracking

[randome]

9. There is room for disagreement about fracking.

It's less harmful to the atmosphere, for instance. I'm against it and I think Clinton, now that she's headed for the White House, will re-think her tepid endorsement of it.
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10. until there is a replacement energy source..or a reduction in need for energy

a-fracking we will go

which is why we need to be serious about reducing our usage in our homes, cars, offices,....

[Cooley Hurd]

11. There's also a HUMONGOUS reason for opposition.

It fucks up everything below the atmosphere.

[randome]

12. I know. I agree. I want it banned.

I think Clinton was trying to go down the middle on the issue, get Republicans on board to do something. Her clean energy initiatives don't mention fracking so I'm betting she's already rethought this one.
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5. they all take time.....

asking supporters to better manage their own energy usage could happen instantly
its a revolution with guaranteed immediate benefit
just 5 degrees warmer reduces energy used for air conditioning by more than 10%

all of the others take time and money and to some degree good fortune. in order to cut oil consumption by a third...we'd need to replace 1/3 of the existing cars/boilers/ships/trucks....with new ones which use zero energy which isn't feasible in the next decade.

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2. ask bernie if there are any good ways to recyclel his F-35s. nt

[Fumesucker]

3. Then ask Hillary if there's any way to recycle her cluster bombs

[Jitter65]

13. She had cluster bombs? And she didn't drop one on the GOP Congress? What a waste! nt

[Vattel]

14. Clinton loves the F-35. Both of them are correct not to want

to cancel the project now that it's almost finished. Only Trump is crazy enough to want it to be cancelled now.