2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum#FlashbackFriday: Saturday, June 7, 2008 Hillary Clinton suspended her campaign and endorsed Barack
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#FlashbackFriday: Saturday, June 7, 2008 Hillary Clinton suspended her campaign and endorsed Barack Obama.
Adam Parkhomenko ?@AdamParkhomenko 23m23 minutes ago
Nonhlanhla
(2,074 posts)and in fact disliked Hillary a lot at the time - primaries are inclined to make us see only the worst in our candidate's opponent. But even then I thought she was very classy in defeat. I wonder if Bernie has it in him to show an equal amount of class.
tandem5
(2,072 posts)still can't stand the gobama mantra though.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)And an enormous contrast to what's going to happen next week after she's the one clinching the nomination and someone else has finished in second place
LoverOfLiberty
(1,438 posts)Skink
(10,122 posts)StevieM
(10,499 posts)in exchange for her support.
You are calling the President of the United States a criminal.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)imagine2015
(2,054 posts)joshcryer
(62,265 posts)So much for Obama paying off her debts.
They basically fund raised for 5 years to pay it off. And while Obama's donors helped pay off the final $250k or so, your contention is not based in reality. She was $20 million in the red when the campaign ended.
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riversedge
(69,731 posts)TSIAS
(14,689 posts)When Terry McAuliffe was still introducing her as the "next president of the United States". It wasn't until her NY superdelegates jumped ship that she "graciously" conceded. And then there's the part where she made Obama pay off her debts.
LoverOfLiberty
(1,438 posts)of the president of the United States?
I hope you have something more than your keyboard to back that up.
anotherproletariat
(1,446 posts)supporters? She went all over the country, and made a great convention speech which successfully unified the party. Such class.
joshcryer
(62,265 posts)And Clinton wrote a letter to the remaining superdelegates to make that case: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2008/05/clintons-closing-argument-to-superdelegates/53314/
Clinton also used the argument that she was "polling better" than Obama against McCain (while true, it was such a silly argument, as it is now).
It is of course the correct course of action, but once the race is over, and you lost, then you change tack, which is what Clinton absolutely did, there's no question about that. If you don't think this is gracious, I don't know what to tell you:
Their first post-convention rally together was in Unity, NH, where each candidate got the exact same number of votes in the primary:
Using scare quotes for what Clinton did for Obama is truly revisionist.
StevieM
(10,499 posts)after the final polls had closed. The formal suspension speech, where she endorsed Obama, happened three days later.
Hillary never made Obama pay off her debts. In fact, he didn't do that much to help her pay down her campaign debt.
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-delegate-quit-222503
Clinton acolytes demanded Obama pay off her $20 million campaign debt (even here in DU"s archives). Obama asked his supporters/donors to pitch in.
Obama OKs Donors To Help Clinton with Campaign Debt.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-oks-donors-to-help-clinton-with-campaign-debt/
Funny how the facts get distorted over time.
StevieM
(10,499 posts)The formal announcement came on 6/7. But it was understood that she was exiting the race the day after the voting stopped.
Obama may have helped her a little but that is standard in presidential politics. The ultimate nominee often helps their former opponents to retire their campaign debt. But Hillary never asked for 20 million dollars (no matter what anybody may be saying, or said at the time) and in the end he did very little to raise money for her. She worked for years to raise enough money to pay off the entirety of her debt.
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)http://www.nbcnews.com/id/24953561/ns/politics-decision_08/t/clinton-refuses-concede-nomination/
Hillary Refuses to Concede Despite Obama's Delegate Victory
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/democrats/2071811/Hillary-Clinton-refuses-to-concede-despite-Barack-Obama-delegate-victory.html
She ran up a shit-ton of campaign debt when it was numerically impossible for her to win. That's on her. When her 11-page memo to superdelegate asking them to give her the nomination anyway & Bill's phone calls to superdelegates arguing America would not elect a black man didn't pan out,, then came that farce of her demanding the disqualified states of Michigan and Florida be counted..
Ya, she was a peach.
bvf
(6,604 posts)StevieM
(10,499 posts)I have responded to them so many times over the past 8 years and just don't have the energy right now to go down the list and fight it out again. Maybe some other time.
I'll just say that Hillary bowed out of the 2008 race far earlier than all other candidates in her position in American history, many of whom had not performed as well as her. And it's amusing that you gave me links from 6/4--that was the day she let it be known that she would be dropping out and endorsing Obama.
Supporting Hillary Clinton's 2008 campaign for president was the proudest experience of my life.
apcalc
(4,461 posts)Just like Hillary took.
Anyone want to bet money on Sanders taking four days or less.....?
What...no takers? 😉
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)different than me... She said this when expressing her frustration over the progressives rallying around Obama.
bobbobbins01
(1,681 posts)This year its all about electability, she should do the right thing and endorse Bernie, the more electable candidate.
riversedge
(69,731 posts)Lord Magus
(1,999 posts)That is antithetical to democracy.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)riversedge
(69,731 posts)riversedge
(69,731 posts)LonePirate
(13,386 posts)tonyt53
(5,737 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)So all the shit about "sanders is DEAD to me" and the hyperventillating from camp HRC really ought to end once he does the right thing, too.
Obama's side worked to bring HRC's people on board and unify as well. They didnt sit there and continue to insult her supporters, Call them all pissed off old cat ladies or whatever.
Rex
(65,616 posts)and they were deplorable.