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riversedge

(69,731 posts)
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 06:54 PM Jun 2016

#FlashbackFriday: Saturday, June 7, 2008 Hillary Clinton suspended her campaign and endorsed Barack

Beautiful day--Hillary was instrumental in bringing the Democratic Party together on this day.



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#FlashbackFriday: Saturday, June 7, 2008 Hillary Clinton suspended her campaign and endorsed Barack Obama.
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#FlashbackFriday: Saturday, June 7, 2008 Hillary Clinton suspended her campaign and endorsed Barack (Original Post) riversedge Jun 2016 OP
I was an Obama supporter back then Nonhlanhla Jun 2016 #1
I was a Clinton supporter eight years ago and I really admire Obama as a president... tandem5 Jun 2016 #2
that was maybe her finest hour in public life. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #3
Sadly I think you are right LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #7
Was that before or after Secretary of State was on the table Skink Jun 2016 #4
It would have been illegal for Senator Obama to place the S.O.S. job on the table StevieM Jun 2016 #13
I think you may be using the wrong adverb azurnoir Jun 2016 #28
After Obama promised to help Clinton pay off her campaign debts. imagine2015 Jun 2016 #5
Huh? Her debts weren't paid off until 2013. joshcryer Jun 2016 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author virtualobserver Jun 2016 #29
Why do you spreads such lies.!! Makes you look foolish! riversedge Jun 2016 #20
I remember the Tuesday prior TSIAS Jun 2016 #6
Are you claiming quid pro quo LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #8
Also, remember how she work tirelessly to make sure that all of her supporters became Obama anotherproletariat Jun 2016 #9
They thought they could pull the popular vote gambit. joshcryer Jun 2016 #10
She released word that she would be suspending her campaign less than 24 hours StevieM Jun 2016 #12
Obama clinched the nomination on 6/3. Four days later she conceded. AtomicKitten Jun 2016 #15
Hillary released word on 6/4 that her campaign would be suspended. StevieM Jun 2016 #16
She refused to concede. That's a fact. AtomicKitten Jun 2016 #17
^ This. n/t bvf Jun 2016 #18
I disagree with everything you have written. StevieM Jun 2016 #21
OK , we'll give Sanders FOUR days apcalc Jun 2016 #26
One corporatist endorsed another. As Clinton said in the one debate (I believe it was NH) he is no Skwmom Jun 2016 #14
I hope she has the wisdom to do the same this year. bobbobbins01 Jun 2016 #19
IF he wins more delegates and superdelegates no doubt she would. riversedge Jun 2016 #23
Demanding that the winning candidate drop out and endorse the loser is offensive. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #32
Thankfully, Bernie isn't Hillary!! nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #22
I hope he has as much class as Hillary did when the time comes, which is soon. riversedge Jun 2016 #25
REC riversedge Jun 2016 #24
Sanders would do well to follow that class act from Clinton back in 2008. LonePirate Jun 2016 #27
Unity with class. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #30
She was classy, but lets not pretend it was all nicey-nicey lets play patty-cake up to that point. Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #31
I am glad I missed the 2008 primaries, I've read some of the smear campaigns against Obama Rex Jun 2016 #33

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
1. I was an Obama supporter back then
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 06:59 PM
Jun 2016

and in fact disliked Hillary a lot at the time - primaries are inclined to make us see only the worst in our candidate's opponent. But even then I thought she was very classy in defeat. I wonder if Bernie has it in him to show an equal amount of class.

tandem5

(2,072 posts)
2. I was a Clinton supporter eight years ago and I really admire Obama as a president...
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 07:09 PM
Jun 2016

still can't stand the gobama mantra though.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
3. that was maybe her finest hour in public life.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 07:15 PM
Jun 2016

And an enormous contrast to what's going to happen next week after she's the one clinching the nomination and someone else has finished in second place

StevieM

(10,499 posts)
13. It would have been illegal for Senator Obama to place the S.O.S. job on the table
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 04:13 AM
Jun 2016

in exchange for her support.

You are calling the President of the United States a criminal.

joshcryer

(62,265 posts)
11. Huh? Her debts weren't paid off until 2013.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 03:37 AM
Jun 2016

So much for Obama paying off her debts.

They basically fund raised for 5 years to pay it off. And while Obama's donors helped pay off the final $250k or so, your contention is not based in reality. She was $20 million in the red when the campaign ended.

Response to joshcryer (Reply #11)

TSIAS

(14,689 posts)
6. I remember the Tuesday prior
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:18 AM
Jun 2016

When Terry McAuliffe was still introducing her as the "next president of the United States". It wasn't until her NY superdelegates jumped ship that she "graciously" conceded. And then there's the part where she made Obama pay off her debts.

LoverOfLiberty

(1,438 posts)
8. Are you claiming quid pro quo
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:21 AM
Jun 2016

of the president of the United States?

I hope you have something more than your keyboard to back that up.

 

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
9. Also, remember how she work tirelessly to make sure that all of her supporters became Obama
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 03:24 AM
Jun 2016

supporters? She went all over the country, and made a great convention speech which successfully unified the party. Such class.

joshcryer

(62,265 posts)
10. They thought they could pull the popular vote gambit.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 03:33 AM
Jun 2016

And Clinton wrote a letter to the remaining superdelegates to make that case: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2008/05/clintons-closing-argument-to-superdelegates/53314/

Clinton also used the argument that she was "polling better" than Obama against McCain (while true, it was such a silly argument, as it is now).

It is of course the correct course of action, but once the race is over, and you lost, then you change tack, which is what Clinton absolutely did, there's no question about that. If you don't think this is gracious, I don't know what to tell you:



Their first post-convention rally together was in Unity, NH, where each candidate got the exact same number of votes in the primary:



Using scare quotes for what Clinton did for Obama is truly revisionist.

StevieM

(10,499 posts)
12. She released word that she would be suspending her campaign less than 24 hours
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 04:12 AM
Jun 2016

after the final polls had closed. The formal suspension speech, where she endorsed Obama, happened three days later.

Hillary never made Obama pay off her debts. In fact, he didn't do that much to help her pay down her campaign debt.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
15. Obama clinched the nomination on 6/3. Four days later she conceded.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 04:31 AM
Jun 2016
Hillary's Refusal to Concede in 2008 Haunts her in 2016.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-delegate-quit-222503

Clinton acolytes demanded Obama pay off her $20 million campaign debt (even here in DU"s archives). Obama asked his supporters/donors to pitch in.

Obama OKs Donors To Help Clinton with Campaign Debt.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-oks-donors-to-help-clinton-with-campaign-debt/

Funny how the facts get distorted over time.

StevieM

(10,499 posts)
16. Hillary released word on 6/4 that her campaign would be suspended.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 04:37 AM
Jun 2016

The formal announcement came on 6/7. But it was understood that she was exiting the race the day after the voting stopped.

Obama may have helped her a little but that is standard in presidential politics. The ultimate nominee often helps their former opponents to retire their campaign debt. But Hillary never asked for 20 million dollars (no matter what anybody may be saying, or said at the time) and in the end he did very little to raise money for her. She worked for years to raise enough money to pay off the entirety of her debt.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
17. She refused to concede. That's a fact.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 04:59 AM
Jun 2016
Hillary Refuses to Concede the Nomination
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/24953561/ns/politics-decision_08/t/clinton-refuses-concede-nomination/

Hillary Refuses to Concede Despite Obama's Delegate Victory
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/democrats/2071811/Hillary-Clinton-refuses-to-concede-despite-Barack-Obama-delegate-victory.html

She ran up a shit-ton of campaign debt when it was numerically impossible for her to win. That's on her. When her 11-page memo to superdelegate asking them to give her the nomination anyway & Bill's phone calls to superdelegates arguing America would not elect a black man didn't pan out,, then came that farce of her demanding the disqualified states of Michigan and Florida be counted..

Ya, she was a peach.

StevieM

(10,499 posts)
21. I disagree with everything you have written.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 02:36 PM
Jun 2016

I have responded to them so many times over the past 8 years and just don't have the energy right now to go down the list and fight it out again. Maybe some other time.

I'll just say that Hillary bowed out of the 2008 race far earlier than all other candidates in her position in American history, many of whom had not performed as well as her. And it's amusing that you gave me links from 6/4--that was the day she let it be known that she would be dropping out and endorsing Obama.

Supporting Hillary Clinton's 2008 campaign for president was the proudest experience of my life.

apcalc

(4,461 posts)
26. OK , we'll give Sanders FOUR days
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 03:52 PM
Jun 2016

Just like Hillary took.

Anyone want to bet money on Sanders taking four days or less.....?

What...no takers? 😉

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
14. One corporatist endorsed another. As Clinton said in the one debate (I believe it was NH) he is no
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 04:14 AM
Jun 2016

different than me... She said this when expressing her frustration over the progressives rallying around Obama.

bobbobbins01

(1,681 posts)
19. I hope she has the wisdom to do the same this year.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:42 AM
Jun 2016

This year its all about electability, she should do the right thing and endorse Bernie, the more electable candidate.

Lord Magus

(1,999 posts)
32. Demanding that the winning candidate drop out and endorse the loser is offensive.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 05:02 PM
Jun 2016

That is antithetical to democracy.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
31. She was classy, but lets not pretend it was all nicey-nicey lets play patty-cake up to that point.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 04:50 PM
Jun 2016

So all the shit about "sanders is DEAD to me" and the hyperventillating from camp HRC really ought to end once he does the right thing, too.

Obama's side worked to bring HRC's people on board and unify as well. They didnt sit there and continue to insult her supporters, Call them all pissed off old cat ladies or whatever.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
33. I am glad I missed the 2008 primaries, I've read some of the smear campaigns against Obama
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 05:06 PM
Jun 2016

and they were deplorable.

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