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Fri Jun 3, 2016, 07:30 PM

A Law Hillary May Have Broken


◾ One of the laws that may have been broken is 18 U.S. Code § 793 - Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information.

Note first that the information listed below doesn't require a formal "classified" designation to be relevant, and second, that "intent" is not necessary to trigger the law's penalties. "Gross negligence" is sufficient. Again, my emphasis below:
(f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.


Full analysis at Down With Tyranny: http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2016/06/three-data-points-regarding-clintons.html?m=1

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Reply A Law Hillary May Have Broken (Original post)
Meteor Man Jun 2016 OP
FreakinDJ Jun 2016 #1
Tarc Jun 2016 #2
artislife Jun 2016 #8
Tarc Jun 2016 #10
artislife Jun 2016 #11
Tarc Jun 2016 #12
artislife Jun 2016 #14
Tarc Jun 2016 #15
artislife Jun 2016 #17
Joe the Revelator Jun 2016 #18
Tarc Jun 2016 #19
reformist2 Jun 2016 #3
BlueStateLib Jun 2016 #6
BlueStateLib Jun 2016 #4
merbex Jun 2016 #5
Meteor Man Jun 2016 #9
BlueStateLib Jun 2016 #16
onecaliberal Jun 2016 #7
Press Virginia Jun 2016 #13

Response to Meteor Man (Original post)

Fri Jun 3, 2016, 07:34 PM

1. Only applies to "The Little People"

 

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Response to Meteor Man (Original post)

Fri Jun 3, 2016, 07:35 PM

2. This is many miles below "gross negligence", I'm afraid

Of all the yahoo bullshit tossed around by Emailgate-pushing clap-for-dead-faeries people, this is by far the most nonsensical.

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Response to artislife (Reply #8)

Fri Jun 3, 2016, 07:43 PM

10. 3,033,824 votes, 270 pledged delegates

We're already in the river's seat, no need to wish for anything.

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Response to artislife (Reply #11)

Fri Jun 3, 2016, 08:01 PM

12. Those are some sour, sour grapes ya got there

The voters have spoken.

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Response to artislife (Reply #14)

Fri Jun 3, 2016, 08:10 PM

15. Yep. You are aware that this site is called democraticunderground.com for a reason, right?

Capital-D, there.

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Response to Tarc (Reply #10)

Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:56 AM

18. And 1 probable indictment

 

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Response to Joe the Revelator (Reply #18)

Sat Jun 4, 2016, 09:18 AM

19. Keep clapping if you like, but there's just not enough there for that to happen


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Response to Meteor Man (Original post)

Fri Jun 3, 2016, 07:36 PM

3. Her minions only deleted personal e-mails, or so she says.

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Response to reformist2 (Reply #3)

Fri Jun 3, 2016, 07:40 PM

6. Her lawyer david kendall deleted personal e-mails

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Response to Meteor Man (Original post)

Fri Jun 3, 2016, 07:37 PM

4. Do you really believe clinton intented to cause injury to the United States?

18 U.S. Code § 793 - Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information

(a) Whoever, for the purpose of obtaining information respecting the national defense with intent or reason to believe that the information is to be used to the injury of the United States, or to the advantage of any foreign nation, goes upon
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793

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Response to BlueStateLib (Reply #4)

Fri Jun 3, 2016, 07:39 PM

5. Actually ( e) and (f) are the relevant sections to her case n/t

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Response to merbex (Reply #5)

Fri Jun 3, 2016, 07:43 PM

9. Thank you

That alphabet thingie is so confusing!

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Response to merbex (Reply #5)

Fri Jun 3, 2016, 08:12 PM

16. which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury

Did Clinton believe the information she had on her server could be used to the injury of the United States

e) which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted,



f) (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer


The proper place for classified information would be ClassNet accessed through classified workstation. Nobody is accusing clinton of transferring information got from ClassNet

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Response to Meteor Man (Original post)

Fri Jun 3, 2016, 07:40 PM

7. There is no maybe about it, read the IG's report.

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Response to Meteor Man (Original post)

Fri Jun 3, 2016, 08:03 PM

13. Many of the redacted classifications are noted as B3

 

(b)(3) Applies to the Director's statutory obligations to protect from disclosure intelligence sources and methods, as well as the organization, functions, names, official titles, salaries, or numbers of personnel employed by the Agency, in accord with the National Security Act of 1947 and the CIA Act of 1949, respectively.


While most are e-mail addresses identifying them as CIA and NSA employees, there are some references in the bodies of the e-mail
http://www.foia.cia.gov/exemptions-foia

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