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seafan

(9,387 posts)
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 11:29 PM Jun 2016

Obama: I have Wasserman Schultz's back

The Hill, June 3, 2016


(via The Hill)

President Obama reiterated his support for DNC Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz on Friday, saying he has her back.

"I don't know how she does it because she’s everywhere all the time, non-stop, and she’s a mom and a wife, and has been just an incredible supporter of my agenda. She’s taken tough votes when they’re the right thing to do, and she is somebody who I have counted on consistently," Obama said at a DNC fundraiser in Florida Friday, according to a White House release. "She’s had my back. I want to make sure we have her back — Debbie Wasserman Schultz."

Some Democratic lawmakers have openly discussed dropping Wasserman Schultz, saying that she has become too divisive within the party.

.....

The president gave his remarks at a fundraiser where tickets went for between $10,000 and $30,000. It was hosted by Robert Rubenstein.



The punching of progressives and all those who care about free and fair elections seems never to go out of style.






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Obama: I have Wasserman Schultz's back (Original Post) seafan Jun 2016 OP
The establishment. LizetteWest Jun 2016 #1
...has the establishment's back (ntxt) scscholar Jun 2016 #33
Same as it ever was. nt AliceWonderland Jun 2016 #55
...is well established. Orsino Jun 2016 #129
... SamKnause Jun 2016 #2
He has her back? CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2016 #3
You're throwing Obama under the bus!!!11!1!!!1!!111!!!1!!11!!1 mindwalker_i Jun 2016 #38
Obama threw himself under the bus Meteor Man Jun 2016 #49
Meteor Man—When it comes to the sector which yields the influence… CobaltBlue Jun 2016 #84
This is the problem Meteor Man Jun 2016 #88
This is the same man lancer78 Jun 2016 #86
If he has her back, he does not have ours. stillwaiting Jun 2016 #111
I am going to be a thorn in the side of this bullshit forever, as much as I possibly can. And I highprincipleswork Jun 2016 #4
threats puffy socks Jun 2016 #16
Exactly. Or I could be satisfied with the corporate takeover of the Democratic Party. highprincipleswork Jun 2016 #41
Hmmmm puffy socks Jun 2016 #45
As they say, all options on the table. Guess you're pleased with corporatocracy? highprincipleswork Jun 2016 #46
I'm realistic enough to know that... puffy socks Jun 2016 #57
Tell it to the French and the Wobblies. highprincipleswork Jun 2016 #85
Perhaps you should actually puffy socks Jun 2016 #117
No, I'd much prefer sarcasm and "rofl" smileys Miles Archer Jun 2016 #107
one of the many who agree with you ! ciaobaby Jun 2016 #27
You seem very passionate, but sounds like what you want is not at all in agreement with the anotherproletariat Jun 2016 #83
Given that the party has lost control of congress Kentonio Jun 2016 #97
Losing control of Congress is a specialty of the New Dems. They excel at it. If you look at this highprincipleswork Jun 2016 #103
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 Jun 2016 #5
In the immortal words of Severus Snape... Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #6
Can't disagree with that statement. n/t Aerows Jun 2016 #80
Little bit ... in my mouth. Yep Hiraeth Jun 2016 #93
That's nasty. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2016 #7
And we get sold down the river Kelvin Mace Jun 2016 #8
What a disappointment. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2016 #9
Third Way corporatists look out for their own. Broward Jun 2016 #10
Broward—Debbie Does Please The Party CobaltBlue Jun 2016 #23
I think of all the congressional seats lost because of her lousy leadership, and he has her back. B Calm Jun 2016 #11
B Calm—No! Her endorsers reveal their intent. Obama, Biden, et al. CobaltBlue Jun 2016 #22
UGH. That is all. nt SusanCalvin Jun 2016 #12
I'll just leave this here: Salviati Jun 2016 #13
Perfect and thanks Salviati Segami Jun 2016 #17
Hey PO,..you forgot to tell us that..... Segami Jun 2016 #14
We add this to the long list of things we will not forget. seafan Jun 2016 #20
When wasn't it provocation? truedelphi Jun 2016 #47
As soon as Obama made his appointments it was clear that Clinton was right when she said in the Skwmom Jun 2016 #87
and it was so unnecessary ciaobaby Jun 2016 #29
Go Tim Canova, Go! nc4bo Jun 2016 #15
+10,000 nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #61
Thanks Obama Joob Jun 2016 #18
Now I don't care if Clinton drags him down with her. grasswire Jun 2016 #30
I think many of us recognized Obama as a Wall Street Democrat years ago. CobaltBlue Jun 2016 #19
True, but I did respect a few of his foreign policiy efforts with SoS Kerry on board. 2banon Jun 2016 #81
What is "progressive" about voting to send cancer patients to prison for using medical pot? Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 Jun 2016 #28
And when people pretend like this is all some airy academic exercise perpetrated by stoners Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 Jun 2016 #40
I don't know what a democrat is anymore. I want out. ciaobaby Jun 2016 #31
But but she's a fighter and a hard worker. Screw the cancer patients, let them rot jack_krass Jun 2016 #53
Oh, and a loyal Democrat too don't forget jack_krass Jun 2016 #56
Good for him... Nt seabeyond Jun 2016 #24
thinks she apologized for DonCoquixote Jun 2016 #44
Disappointing jack_krass Jun 2016 #25
Yes - very 840high Jun 2016 #43
. PowerToThePeople Jun 2016 #26
The Big "O" is not going to bend to the radical Left. DWS will continue to lead the DNC through this Trust Buster Jun 2016 #32
To be for the people is considered radical left. Wow... Skwmom Jun 2016 #90
You are for far less people than Hillary has. Yes, you represent a minority of people and you Trust Buster Jun 2016 #114
"You are for far less people than Hillary has" opiate69 Jun 2016 #123
Sorry I ever voted for the guy. TWICE! He's turned his back ThePhilosopher04 Jun 2016 #34
This is a signal that JEB Jun 2016 #35
12 Senators, 69 Reps, 13 Govenrmors, 913 state seats MisterP Jun 2016 #37
She greased the skids where needed to get HRC rammed through the primary jack_krass Jun 2016 #50
Actually, most of those losses came in 2010 when Tim Kaine was party chair. (eom) StevieM Jun 2016 #63
Shhh, they're on a roll, like after the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor. stevenleser Jun 2016 #69
He's Rolling. msanthrope Jun 2016 #105
And I think it is silly to blame 2010 on Kaine too stevenleser Jun 2016 #122
Agreed. (eom) StevieM Jun 2016 #124
I like Obama, but I disagree with him here. Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #39
has been just an incredible supporter of my agenda. DonCoquixote Jun 2016 #42
If you think he and his record are indefensible due to his support of DWS then he's not the problem. LonePirate Jun 2016 #58
rthere is a difference between questioning and trashing DonCoquixote Jun 2016 #66
You're flat out trashing him which is guaranteed to drive away rank and file Dems from your cause. LonePirate Jun 2016 #71
ok first off DonCoquixote Jun 2016 #94
I have to agree with you. How many seats have we lost since she's mmonk Jun 2016 #116
He probably is the best president we've had in decades tularetom Jun 2016 #74
Raised expectations so high, huh? LonePirate Jun 2016 #75
I think you're missing the point tularetom Jun 2016 #77
Yeah, he got nothing done in his first two years with a Dem Congress. LonePirate Jun 2016 #78
Not unable to deliver ibegurpard Jun 2016 #91
She is a loyal Democrat and a fighter and hard worker bravenak Jun 2016 #48
She is none of those things for us, bravenak. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2016 #54
She raises quite a bit for the party bravenak Jun 2016 #59
She deserves to be trashed constantly Kentonio Jun 2016 #99
She helped Hillary slither and wallow through the primary. She'll be richly rewarded like everyone jack_krass Jun 2016 #60
If you're one of her friends TSIAS Jun 2016 #67
Our views are opposed in many ways but I hate to watch her eviscerated daily bravenak Jun 2016 #68
was this loyal? DonCoquixote Jun 2016 #95
He does not seem to be holding a grudge bravenak Jun 2016 #96
I can appreciate that you blame Bibi DonCoquixote Jun 2016 #98
K&R. Do I really care about Trump one way or another? JDPriestly Jun 2016 #51
So does Karl Rove. nt Nyan Jun 2016 #52
Funny how she just dropped opposition to payday loan regulations... MinnesotaRob Jun 2016 #62
That will most likely last for the primary season only. stillwaiting Jun 2016 #113
I like Obama but... Turin_C3PO Jun 2016 #64
Sad and troubling regards POTUS Obama. PufPuf23 Jun 2016 #65
He said as much about a month ago. Time to move on. LuvLoogie Jun 2016 #70
I wish Obama had done differently TSIAS Jun 2016 #72
he's saving his own ass shanti Jun 2016 #130
1. So now you berns don't like pres. Obama okieinpain Jun 2016 #73
They tried to assert otherwise when Hillary was saying she is the rightful heir to the stevenleser Jun 2016 #121
Some people have a moral compass, some don't demwing Jun 2016 #125
He's wrong...He's human The empressof all Jun 2016 #76
Very unfortunate news.. 2banon Jun 2016 #79
Wrong on SO many levels. agracie Jun 2016 #82
When you get down to it what has she done to incur the wrath of Bernie? ucrdem Jun 2016 #89
It has nothing to do with Sanders Kentonio Jun 2016 #100
Mmmm... his favorite candy bar must be Payday (lending). AzDar Jun 2016 #92
Can he get the backs of people who are targeted by predatory lenders? Ash_F Jun 2016 #101
Agree with Obama saying he has her back, good for him, she has been Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #102
Good for the president rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #104
There will be no change of DNC leadership prior to the convention Gothmog Jun 2016 #106
That's nice, but take notice of many of the rest of us. Vinca Jun 2016 #108
Let me put on my most phony *surprised* face. 99Forever Jun 2016 #109
Good. I want the Bashers & Antis knocked off their perches. All they've wanted to do is wreck OUR- Sunlei Jun 2016 #110
The Democratic party has truly lost its way. Last one out, turn off the lights. jfern Jun 2016 #112
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #115
Thanks for that. Bye Bye now!! stillwaiting Jun 2016 #119
... NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #118
Does she even know what Obama does? Octafish Jun 2016 #120
Politics is about relationships. You support the people who support you. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #126
"and she's a wife and a mom" PaulaFarrell Jun 2016 #127
So the Third Way neocon that put Social Security on the chopping block Ferd Berfel Jun 2016 #128
What he is really saying is Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2016 #131
Heckova job, Debbie. n/t winter is coming Jun 2016 #132

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,614 posts)
3. He has her back?
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 11:32 PM
Jun 2016

How about us?

Shame on him.

She has done real damage to the Democratic Party. She needs to go. NOW.

 

CobaltBlue

(1,122 posts)
84. Meteor Man—When it comes to the sector which yields the influence…
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 03:32 AM
Jun 2016

Debbie Wasserman Schultz is representative of the Democratic Party.

She is in that position not as some arbitrary pick.

She is there because she apparently delivers on getting the money—the money for the party to fund elections.

The 70th governor and junior U.S. senator from Virginia is Tim Kaine. He was the DNC chair when the Democrats were unseated when Republicans won their majority pickup of the U.S. House in 2010. Schwartz presided over the 2014 Republican majority control pickup of the U.S. Senate in 2014.

Debbie delivering on money brought into the DNC is why she is still there—for now—as DNC chair. Had she failed, she would have sacked from that position however long ago. This is key to why Barack Obama and Joe Biden have come out to endorse her for party re-nomination to the U.S. House from Florida #23.

Meteor Man

(385 posts)
88. This is the problem
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 03:44 AM
Jun 2016

Debbie delivering on money brought into the DNC is why she is still there—for now—as DNC chair.


Delivering the money became more important to the Drmocratic Party than representing the voters.

The Democratic Party faces a stark choice. Represent the traditional views of the Democratic Party or lose the votes of people who still believe in the tradirional views of the Democratic Party. Not to mention the votes of millenials who are voting for the traditional New Deal values of the Democratic Party.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
111. If he has her back, he does not have ours.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:09 AM
Jun 2016

This Party Chair has been horrible for average Americans and the Democratic Party.

She has been great for the global corporate agenda though.

#notonmyside

 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
4. I am going to be a thorn in the side of this bullshit forever, as much as I possibly can. And I
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 11:33 PM
Jun 2016

hope that many agree with me.

So if any of the rest of you, who think this is OK and just dandy, find us fighting you, for now, for then, for forever, just don't be surprised. We believe we are very right, and we are not going anywhere.

Prepare for a long, nasty fight for the soul of the Democratic Party.

 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
57. I'm realistic enough to know that...
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:30 AM
Jun 2016

1 not all wealthy corporate executives are corrupt jerks..Ben and Jerry for example.

2 that corporations have been , are and will be a part of our economy for the foreseeable future.

3 the 99% depend heavily on corporations doing well since a ton of them are employed by them

4 throwing a hissy fit isn't going to get you what you want. It just annoys people and they shut their ears , which makes some shout louder and more forcefully and then people tune you out. Others will just want to get even.

5 Try to start understanding how to get what you want.

6 Ask yourself why it pisses off Bernie supporters to supposedly be "told how to vote" when simply pointing out that a vote for third party or not voting helps Trump, but when Bernie and his supporters make demands of the majority of Democrats and try a hostile take over of the Dem party Dems are supposed to cordially capitulate.

7 revolution tends to hurt the working class far more than the wealthy class as the wealthy have the resources to comfortably outlast them. This is why evolution is best.

8 In order to make changes Progressives must have strength in numbers. Progressive purity tests and division make it a breeze for the 1% to conquer the masses

9 It takes toughness, focus and endurance to stick it out because the wheels of change turn slowly , so mucking up the works because it's not going fast enough will only cause it to take more time as each out burst will be used as a political bludgeon by professionally crafted corporate media to prevent the election of Progressives or stop progressive initiatives..
Toughness is not cursing at people nor is it threatening people.

 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
117. Perhaps you should actually
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 09:05 AM
Jun 2016

study the French Revolution as well as Robespierre's reign of terror before making such a comment. The French people tried all else first


And stop the drama...America isnt remotely in the kind of crisis France was in 1789


Revolutions are most painful to the working class ...always

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
107. No, I'd much prefer sarcasm and "rofl" smileys
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:53 AM
Jun 2016

They're very effective, and show true insight, maturity, and a warrior spirit. The world steps back for the man or woman who knows how to use a strategically placed smiley and a "LOL."

 

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
83. You seem very passionate, but sounds like what you want is not at all in agreement with the
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 03:19 AM
Jun 2016

Democratic Party as it stands today. Have you thought about organizing a new party? There seems to be many people who feel the way you do, and with all that energy, maybe you really could make a difference. I think you are butting your heads against a wall trying to change a party that is comfortable with the status quo. Wouldn't it be easier to start fresh?

 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
103. Losing control of Congress is a specialty of the New Dems. They excel at it. If you look at this
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:27 AM
Jun 2016

chart...
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0774721.html

You will notice that the principles and policies and economics of the New Deal kept Democrats in control of both the Senate and the House for all but 8 years from 1933-1993, 52 out of 60 years.

Compare this with the results from Bill Clinton onward, as the Democratic Party has become increasingly timid and run by so-called "New Dems". From 1993-2016, 23 years, we have only had the majority in both houses for 4 years.

52 out of 60 versus 4 out of 23. 87% of the time versus 17% of the time.

Can you see why Bernie supporters, who like how his views hearken back to the New Deal, see this as an ass-backwards kind of situation? Frankly, we can't see how Hillary supporters find it in themselves to live with this situation.

Now that's the MATH I'm talking about.

Response to seafan (Original post)

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
11. I think of all the congressional seats lost because of her lousy leadership, and he has her back.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 11:40 PM
Jun 2016

Crazy world we live in. .

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
14. Hey PO,..you forgot to tell us that.....
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 11:43 PM
Jun 2016

Last edited Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:49 AM - Edit history (1)

'Hope and Change' was really meant for the Establishment.......supporting a DISGUSTING HACK like DWS just puts everything into perspective........it really does!


seafan

(9,387 posts)
20. We add this to the long list of things we will not forget.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 11:51 PM
Jun 2016

This feels like nothing short of deliberate provocation.

Peace to you, Segami. We will fight on.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
47. When wasn't it provocation?
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:12 AM
Jun 2016

That a nation as a whole voted against Hillary Clinton, and he made her his Secretary of State.

That little toad Rahm got the Chief of Staff position. That probably was as payment for seeing to it that the progressives all across most Southern states could not get "D" Party monies or endorsements. Yes, he gave the "hatchet man" a top position.

And the hatchet man called us progressives "retards."

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
87. As soon as Obama made his appointments it was clear that Clinton was right when she said in the
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 03:43 AM
Jun 2016

one debate in 2008, he is no different than me.

And Biden, I am no populist, when a populist is someone who represents the common man...

It is what it is and wishing won't make it change...

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
30. Now I don't care if Clinton drags him down with her.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:00 AM
Jun 2016

Previously, I felt sympathetic about his legacy.

Gone.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
81. True, but I did respect a few of his foreign policiy efforts with SoS Kerry on board.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 02:11 AM
Jun 2016

This news reminded me on why I was so deeply disappointed with him during his first term. I had held out hope for a different exit.

demoralizing, and depressing.


Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #21)

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
36. And when people pretend like this is all some airy academic exercise perpetrated by stoners
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:05 AM
Jun 2016

I remind them of stories like this one, the 53 year old medical marijuana patient who moved to Florida and was arrested in 2014 - the same year DWS teamed up with Sheldon Adelson to kill medical marijuana reform in that state- for growing plants in her own house after cops followed her home from a hydroponics store.

http://www.wptv.com/news/region-martin-county/stuart/stuart-woman-faces-10-years-in-prison-in-medical-marijuana-case

She's now facing 10 years in state prison- no prior offenses, no violence, just cops following her home from the garden shop.

Thanks, Debbie.

Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #36)

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
32. The Big "O" is not going to bend to the radical Left. DWS will continue to lead the DNC through this
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:01 AM
Jun 2016

cycle. Bullying tactics will not be successful. The soul of the Democratic Party is not in question.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
114. You are for far less people than Hillary has. Yes, you represent a minority of people and you
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:13 AM
Jun 2016

lean much farther Left. That cannot be denied.

 

ThePhilosopher04

(1,732 posts)
34. Sorry I ever voted for the guy. TWICE! He's turned his back
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:04 AM
Jun 2016

on progressives and true liberals. Time to rise up!!!

 

JEB

(4,748 posts)
35. This is a signal that
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:05 AM
Jun 2016

they will shit all over the dirty hippies and then blame them for the mess. No change, no hope.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
37. 12 Senators, 69 Reps, 13 Govenrmors, 913 state seats
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:06 AM
Jun 2016

if I was this bad at my job there'd be dead students ev-a-ry-wher

why does this chucklenut get anyone's time of day?

 

jack_krass

(1,009 posts)
50. She greased the skids where needed to get HRC rammed through the primary
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:21 AM
Jun 2016

For this, she'll be justly rewarded.

Expect to see her making $250,000 speeches soon.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
122. And I think it is silly to blame 2010 on Kaine too
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:01 PM
Jun 2016

Let's face it, when your party has the Presidency and both Houses of Congress, those leaders and their agenda (or in this case the false narrative of it that Republicans were able to create) are front and center. No one is going to change their vote due to the DNC chairs statement or actions.

Besides the fact that the other poster got the individual who was chair laughably wrong, it would be wrong to blame election 2010 on the DNC chair regardless of who it was.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
39. I like Obama, but I disagree with him here.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:06 AM
Jun 2016

Still, it wouldn't look good for him to publicly repudiate the DNC chair a month or two before the convention.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
42. has been just an incredible supporter of my agenda.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:08 AM
Jun 2016

Like when she encouraged Bibi to come and a whole "don't you wish someone like ME was president" schitck?

I try to defend you Obama, but moments like this make it damned hard.

LonePirate

(13,420 posts)
58. If you think he and his record are indefensible due to his support of DWS then he's not the problem.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:30 AM
Jun 2016

He's undeniably been the best president we've had in many, many decades. It's disgusting that people are questioning or trashing him because of one endorsement.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
66. rthere is a difference between questioning and trashing
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:08 AM
Jun 2016

especially when the reason you question is because you do not want to see someone backstab him again.

LonePirate

(13,420 posts)
71. You're flat out trashing him which is guaranteed to drive away rank and file Dems from your cause.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:16 AM
Jun 2016

You may think Bernie is a savior; but far more Dems in this country have unyielding support for Obama. If you want to alienate them and put an end to your cause, then by all means, keep saying stupid crap like being unable to defend him. Go right ahead and see how detrimental that is for your cause.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
94. ok first off
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 04:43 AM
Jun 2016

I did not vote for bernie, but obviously you did nto check.

Second, the reason I am angry at DWS is BECAUSE SHE DID NOT SUPPORT OBAMA, she tried to undermine his Iran policy. What gave her a pass to do that?

My cause is getting DWS out of influence before she can continue her train wreck and backstabbing of democrats, you know, that party that lost congress and several governorship under HER tenure?

But then, if one had to defend Debbie with facts, I suspect that would be a short op. That's ok, it will not be long before she crashes 2016 into the same ditch she crashed Hillary's 2008 campaign, unless someone gets her hands of the wheel.

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
116. I have to agree with you. How many seats have we lost since she's
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:19 AM
Jun 2016

been in charge? And I've been gerrymandered for the first time in my life.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
74. He probably is the best president we've had in decades
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:24 AM
Jun 2016

Unfortunately that says more about how lousy the competition was than it does about how good Obama has been.

It's a very low bar.

He has been a huge disappointment, to a large extent because he raised expectations so high and was unable to deliver.

LonePirate

(13,420 posts)
75. Raised expectations so high, huh?
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:33 AM
Jun 2016

Sounds like a current Dem presidential candidate and I don't mean the one known for her pantsuits.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
77. I think you're missing the point
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:52 AM
Jun 2016

I wouldn't expect that Sen Sanders would deliver on everything he campaigned for.

Obama for the most part didn't even try.

LonePirate

(13,420 posts)
78. Yeah, he got nothing done in his first two years with a Dem Congress.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:56 AM
Jun 2016

And he's done nothing since then, right?

The stupidity around here is boundless it seems.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
59. She raises quite a bit for the party
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:32 AM
Jun 2016

I do not agree with her on many things but hate to see her trashed here constantly

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
99. She deserves to be trashed constantly
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:00 AM
Jun 2016

If only for selling out Dem candidates because she didn't want to upset her Republican friends in Florida. Oh and payday lending. And supporting jailing cancer patients for using medical marijuana. The list goes on, she's a terrible Democrat, and her raising a lot of money does nothing to change that.

 

jack_krass

(1,009 posts)
60. She helped Hillary slither and wallow through the primary. She'll be richly rewarded like everyone
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:32 AM
Jun 2016

else "in the club"

TSIAS

(14,689 posts)
67. If you're one of her friends
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:12 AM
Jun 2016

I'd ask those who ran against Diaz-Balart and Ros-Lehtinen how loyal a Democrat she is.

I know she's for Hillary so you love her, but just look at her history. She's a hard worker for the private prison industry as well.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
96. He does not seem to be holding a grudge
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 04:48 AM
Jun 2016

I was mad too, but things worked out. She has to think about her constituents, and I have not checked the polling in her distruct but I suspect it is a pro Israel area and Bibi was ranting against the deal. I really blame Bibi for ratcheting the rhetoric up and scaring people.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
98. I can appreciate that you blame Bibi
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 04:56 AM
Jun 2016

especially as, let's be honest, he was playing the hatred of a black president like a virtuoso violinist. My problem is that unless they get Debbie off, she will do that again, and while no one of us know the real Hillary, I will tell you that the lady who wrote hard choices, aka "Obama did not let me bomb Syria" sounds lie someone that would let Bibi play Debbie again.

Just because I vote against trump does not mean I want to get dragged into yet another Mid east war. This is on top of the fact I am still wonderign why Hillary would put the head of the 2008 and 2010 fiascos in charge of this campaign.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
113. That will most likely last for the primary season only.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:12 AM
Jun 2016

If she makes it through, I do not expect her to bring up payday lenders again.

She was forced to by Canova's campaign. That is the only reason she changed positions.

Turin_C3PO

(13,989 posts)
64. I like Obama but...
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:50 AM
Jun 2016

I don't necessarily agree with him on this. She's been OK in Congress I guess but I really don't think she's done a good job as DNC head. We need someone else at the helm.

PufPuf23

(8,775 posts)
65. Sad and troubling regards POTUS Obama.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:58 AM
Jun 2016

DWS at DNC:

1. Lost multitudes of Democratic seats at all levels of government.
2. Supported GOP candidates over Democrats in FLA.
3. Favors payday lenders and does not support more intelligent marijuana policy.
4. Bungled the 2016 Democratic primary season. With better strategy and tactics, Hillary Clinton most likely could have been "wired" into the slot without all the gnashing of teeth, $ cost, and bitterness that will follow.

I am convinced that some Democrats do not want the support of liberal antiwar Democrats.

TSIAS

(14,689 posts)
72. I wish Obama had done differently
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:21 AM
Jun 2016

He's not running, so I would have preferred he simply gave no fucks. If DWS wants to call him anti-Semitic or sexist, go right ahead.

I suspect he just wants to get through this election and not cause a ruckus by upending the chair.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
130. he's saving his own ass
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:29 PM
Jun 2016

where else is the money going to come from once he's finished his term? despicable...

okieinpain

(9,397 posts)
73. 1. So now you berns don't like pres. Obama
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:24 AM
Jun 2016

2. If bernie sanders gets the nom , do you folks really think he isn't going to have to raise money from the money grubbers.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
121. They tried to assert otherwise when Hillary was saying she is the rightful heir to the
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 11:56 AM
Jun 2016

Obama legacy and that Bernie and his followers bash Obama a lot. They wanted to have everyone believe that wasn't true.

You are seeing how true it is right here under this OP. Folks who support the President weren't fooled, and made that known at the ballot box.

The empressof all

(29,098 posts)
76. He's wrong...He's human
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:39 AM
Jun 2016

Perhaps he feels a misguided sense of loyalty. Perhaps he knows she dead meat in the water...who knows....It really doesn't matter. He is't God. She needs to go.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
89. When you get down to it what has she done to incur the wrath of Bernie?
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 03:46 AM
Jun 2016

And the wrath of B will just about guarantee that his revenge candidate Canova goes down to the ignominious defeat he deserves. What a lousy, vindictive, pointless waste of contributions.

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
100. It has nothing to do with Sanders
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:02 AM
Jun 2016

She's despised by many, many people here in both camps because of her terrible track record.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
102. Agree with Obama saying he has her back, good for him, she has been
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:19 AM
Jun 2016

A good chair, blaming her for the losses in the Senate is wrong, with a 36% voter turnout the blame goes to the non voters.

 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
104. Good for the president
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:05 AM
Jun 2016

The seething hatred for DWS on DU is more than a bit misogynistic in tone. I am not her biggest fan but the way Bernie Bros have gone after her makes me want to see her stay.

If you don't like the party feel free to start your own. But you lost the election so you don't get to change everything to your liking now.

Vinca

(50,270 posts)
108. That's nice, but take notice of many of the rest of us.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:00 AM
Jun 2016

DWS, besides being an odious individual during this election cycle, is one of the many politicians who assume they are "lifers." No one should make a career in the House or Senate. Time for new blood.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
109. Let me put on my most phony *surprised* face.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:04 AM
Jun 2016

There are only two Presidential votes I wish I could take back. They share one thing, they were for the same person.

Never again.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
110. Good. I want the Bashers & Antis knocked off their perches. All they've wanted to do is wreck OUR-
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:06 AM
Jun 2016

Primary to try to make the disaster of republicans seem somehow closer to normal.

Response to seafan (Original post)

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
120. Does she even know what Obama does?
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 11:30 AM
Jun 2016

Old, but under-reported news:



The Chair of the Democratic National Committee is completely unaware of one of the biggest stories of the Obama years

Glenn Greenwald
theguardian.com, Friday 19 October 2012 20.38 EDT

On 29 May 2012, the New York Times published a remarkable 6,000-word story on its front page about what it termed President Obama's "kill list". It detailed the president's personal role in deciding which individuals will end up being targeted for assassination by the CIA based on Obama's secret, unchecked decree that they are "terrorists" and deserve to die.

Based on interviews with "three dozen of his current and former advisers", the Times' Jo Becker and Scott Shane provided extraordinary detail about Obama's actions, including how he "por over terrorist suspects' biographies on what one official calls the macabre 'baseball cards'" and how he "insist on approving every new name on an expanding 'kill list'". At a weekly White House meeting dubbed "Terror Tuesdays", Obama then decides who will die without a whiff of due process, transparency or oversight. It was this process that resulted in the death of US citizen Anwar Awlaki in Yemen, and then two weeks later, the killing of his 16-year-old American son, Abdulrahman, by drone.

The Times "kill list" story made a huge impact and was widely discussed and condemned by media figures, politicians, analysts, and commentators. Among other outlets, the New York Times itself harshly editorialized against Obama's program in an editorial entitled "Too Much Power For a President", denouncing the revelations as "very troubling" and argued: "No one in that position should be able to unilaterally order the killing of American citizens or foreigners located far from a battlefield - depriving Americans of their due-process rights - without the consent of someone outside his political inner circle."

That Obama has a "kill list" has been known since January, 2010, and has been widely reported and discussed in every major American newspaper since April 2010. A major controversy over chronic White House leaks often featured complaints about this article (New York Times, 5 June 2012: "Senators to Open Inquiry Into 'Kill List' and Iran Security Leaks&quot . The Attorney General, Eric Holder, gave a major speech defending it.

But Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the Democratic Congresswoman from Florida and the Chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee, does not know about any of this. She has never heard of any of it. She has managed to remain completely ignorant about the fact that President Obama has asserted and exercised the power to secretly place human beings, including US citizens, on his "kill list" and then order the CIA to extinguish their lives.

CONTINUED...

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/oct/20/wasserman-schultz-kill-list



Drones have come home to roost:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2016/03/09/pentagon-admits-has-deployed-military-spy-drones-over-us/81474702/

PaulaFarrell

(1,236 posts)
127. "and she's a wife and a mom"
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:05 PM
Jun 2016

What the hell's that got to do with the price of eggs? Whoever says about Obama "and he's a husband and a dad"? Jesus H

Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
128. So the Third Way neocon that put Social Security on the chopping block
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:13 PM
Jun 2016

is using drone strikes to kill non-combatant women and children
and is pushing form the end of Government sovereignty (TPP)
is supporting the champion of the 300% loan shark industry?

Huh. Whoda thunk?

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