2016 Postmortem
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Twenty-nine percent of Democrats have confidence in the Democratic Party
The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research
Seventy percent of Americans say they feel frustrated about this year's presidential election, including roughly equal proportions of Democrats and Republicans, according to a recent national poll conducted by The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research. More than half feel helpless and a similar percent are angry.
Nine in 10 Americans lack confidence in the country's political system, and among a normally polarized electorate, there are few partisan differences in the public's lack of faith in the political parties, the nominating process, and the branches of government.
However, in contrast to Trump, the entry of Bernie Sanders into the race for the Democratic nomination is not seen as a negative for the party. Nearly two-thirds (64 percent) of Democrats say Sanders' bid for the nomination has been good for the Democratic Party, along with 43 percent of Republicans and 22 percent of independents (54 percent of independents report it is neither good nor bad). Although Sanders has served in Congress as a House member and Senator for more than 25 years, he was an independent and did not register as a Democrat until recently.
The public is more positive about Sanders' campaign. About half of the public regards Sanders' bid for the nomination as beneficial to the Democratic Party, while about 2 in 10 say it has had a negative effect. Democrats are more likely than Republicans or independents to say Sanders has been good for the Democratic Party (64 percent vs. 43 percent and 22 percent).
Partisans have more confidence in their own party than those of who do not identify with the party, but confidence is low across the board. Twenty-nine percent of Democrats have confidence in the Democratic Party compared to just 5 percent of independents and 2 percent of Republicans.
Jitter65
(3,089 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)which is not held by the majority of our Party or of the country. Smug dismissal of their views is part of why they feel as they do about the Party....so good work on your part!
LWolf
(46,179 posts)is what DU's Clinton supporters do best; not just of the left wing of their own party, or of all Sanders supporters, but apparently, of all but about 1/3 of the Democratic Party.
Do they think that their 1/3 group of smug, disdainful bullies can pull the election out of an orifice in November for Clinton?
B Calm
(28,762 posts)Bernie is like a breath of fresh air.
rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)but like many of my liberal friends I've grown as sick of the petulant campus left "revolutionaries" and their infantile(and misogynistic) idealism as I have of the tea party right.
Bernie lost the democratic primary by the rules. Go start a new party if you can't get over it.
saltpoint
(50,986 posts)stopped the immoral war in Southeast Asia in times past. Despite very noted recalcitrance of their public officials in Washington.
Many of the same demographic and informed awareness of events now support Bernie Sanders.
I'm proud to stand with them.
rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)Although in my opinion the North Vietnamese caused the end of that war.
50 damn years ago. The *nostalgic* hippie petulant campus left is what I should have said.
Most of today's Bernie Bros weren't even born yet when I attended my first anti war protests.
saltpoint
(50,986 posts)underestimated against "a great war power," but the war at home was lost in the mismanagement, deceit, and immorality of the conflict among U.S. voters generally and among young people particularly.
Generals lied to the president. War contractors twisted Congressional arms. But protests destroyed the rationale for "halting Communism," and the laboratories of those protests were the campuses.
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)Third. Sanders is not going to fucking contest the convention. Jesus Christ.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)'I used to feel that way, many of my friends felt that way but what we found was....Acme Brand really is the best after all!!!'
It's a subset of the 'bandwagon method'.
Fun to see such classics still in use!!!
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)You are a moderate republican. Own it, don't be afraid to admit it.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)You're so mad. It's adorable.
I've never voted republican in my life. And my first vote was for McGovern. I've been an activist progressive most of my life. I grew up blue collar and I've never believed Marxists had my back.
You refusal to admit anyone who doesn't worship your Marxist ideals to the progressive purity club is why you're losing. And will always lose.
America is made up of many diverse people. Anyone who is absolutely sure they speak for all of them is suffering narcissistic delusions of grandeur.
Like your candidate.
I will enjoy seeing him defeated. And i began this campaign season as one of his supporters. Y'all lost me with you self-righteous bourgeois radicalism.
Your sense of entitlement to he democratic nomination is all out of proportion to what voters have actively chosen. Like all Marxists, you only appreciate democracy up until the point it no longer serves your own will to power. Then it's authoritarianism and accusations of false consciousness.
Although I figured most campus radicals knew the difference between "your" and "you're" lol.
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)The Democratic Party knows this, the Republican Party knows this, the Ruling Class knows this- and they've been astonishingly successful at making sure the Working Class never learns this.
The status quo was rolling along just fine, until Bernie Sanders came along and mucked it up with his crazy ideas about democracy, equality and justice." ~ Anonymous
Demsrule86
(68,565 posts)I don't buy it.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)is strongly the correct choice, fined tuned her and her race and she is razor sharp. It united us, in the oddest way. ME us very articulate in our issues and why we stand where we do. So, ok.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)that's interesting