2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIf Bernie wins California.
He will still lose the nomination.
Math, people.
David__77
(23,396 posts)I'm voting for Sanders on Tuesday and I wish him success in his electoral campaign. I am empowered as an elector to vote.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)You have as much of a chance at the nomination as he does.
David__77
(23,396 posts)I'm sure people felt that Walter Mondale stood little chance against Reagan on Election Day 1984; still, millions voted for Mondale. I believe that is at least sometimes a matter of personal integrity.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)Bernie is done.
It's over.
David__77
(23,396 posts)I understand your viewpoint.
UMTerp01
(1,048 posts)#BernieMath apparently trumps real math and people act like superdelegates are some new phenomenon and because the numbers are looking bad for him we need to get the superdelegates to switch from Hillary to Bernie. Yada yada yada superdelegates are uncommitted and they don't count until the actual roll call but he's not going to get the superdelegates for Hillary to flip.
David__77
(23,396 posts)I'm voting for who I support to be nominated.
UMTerp01
(1,048 posts)Of course you should vote for your candidate when California votes. That wasn't my point. My point was this idea that he is somehow going to overtake her in pledged delegates and get the SDs to flip to give him the lead. In addition, apparently the popular vote numbers don't matter either. And no the caucus numbers still wouldn't have him leading Hillary in the popular vote.
I didn't get that point in the original post- thanks.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)a terrible thing.
highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)potentially a long, long time. Perhaps even as long as the necessary change that needs to happen actually takes place.
I am stating here right now - I am wearing my Bernie button a long, long time, no matter who the nominee is.
He stands for what I think is right for this country.
Txbluedog
(1,128 posts)that does not mean that his supporters shouldn't vote for him while they still have an opportunity for them to do so
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)Indeed, it is math.
senz
(11,945 posts)There are only 781 pledged delegates left in the remaining nine primaries:
Virgin Islands, PR, CA Mont NJ, NM, ND SD, DC
Even if Hill does well in several states, she will not be able to reach 2383.
And neither will Bernie.
Neither candidate will come out of the upcoming nine primaries with 2383 pledged delegates unless there is some miraculous sweep by one of the candidates, which is highly unlikely.
realmirage
(2,117 posts)At 8pm ET the world will do what it has always done- call the winner who has reached the required number before the convention. Hillary will also have a majority of pledged delegates Tuesday. If you don't realize this you're in for a rough night Tuesday.
senz
(11,945 posts)It's not a matter of having a "majority" of pledged delegates, it's who reaches 2383, which neither of them will.
As for your typical Hill fan eagerness to see Bernie supporters have "a rough night," liberal progressives are under no illusions about who and what has been running our country since Reagan.
realmirage
(2,117 posts)elections. On Tuesday the race will be called as it is every four years when someone reaches the required number.
MineralMan
(146,308 posts)Jon Ace
(243 posts)This primary season can't end soon enough.