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Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:11 PM

 

I WANT OUR DEMOCRACY BACK!

Bernie Sanders is the only candidate who addresses this issue

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Reply I WANT OUR DEMOCRACY BACK! (Original post)
Databuser Jun 2016 OP
bkkyosemite Jun 2016 #1
AuntPatsy Jun 2016 #2
Ferd Berfel Jun 2016 #3
geek tragedy Jun 2016 #4
PeaceNikki Jun 2016 #5
RobertEarl Jun 2016 #16
Name removed Jun 2016 #6
bigwillq Jun 2016 #7
Name removed Jun 2016 #9
Tarc Jun 2016 #8
trudyco Jun 2016 #10
Tarc Jun 2016 #13
Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #15
hrmjustin Jun 2016 #11
Henhouse Jun 2016 #12
Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #14
qdouble Jun 2016 #17
Octafish Jun 2016 #18

Response to Databuser (Original post)

Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:15 PM

1. True

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Response to Databuser (Original post)

Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:15 PM

2. We never truly obtained a true democracy but it would be nice to experience one for

the first time....

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Response to Databuser (Original post)

Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:17 PM

3. It can never happen

with the republican wing of the democratic party in control

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Response to Databuser (Original post)

Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:18 PM

4. The voters rejected Bernie Sanders.

 

If he has any integrity he'll drop out by June 15.

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Response to Databuser (Original post)

Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:19 PM

5. From whom? Who has taken your Democracy, dear?

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Response to PeaceNikki (Reply #5)

Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:52 PM

16. You can not be serious

 

You actually ask who has taken democracy? On a website founded on stolen democracy?

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Response to Name removed (Reply #6)

Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:20 PM

7. Hello

 

Welcome to DU!

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Response to Databuser (Original post)

Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:20 PM

8. Democracy isn't defined as "If my candidate doesn't win, something is corrupt", y'know

Sooner or later you just have to accept the fact that more people voted for Hillary than voted for Bernie.

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Response to Tarc (Reply #8)

Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:54 PM

10. It isn't nice to make up stuff.

Clinton has been shown to be a liar. She lied for over a year. Straight in peoples faces. She is not trustworthy. The Clinton Foundation took blood money. She instigated regime change and bloody wars, for profit.

The vote counting looks suspicious in almost every state and we already know how easily the electronic voting machines can be hacked. We saw it with Shrub. Twice.

This is not Democracy. And it isn't whining or a temper tantrum or any other ridiculous statement you can spout to try to denigrate a real feeling a majority of Americans have (although some have been convinced it's mostly from Brown people rather than the donor class).

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Response to trudyco (Reply #10)

Sat Jun 4, 2016, 06:13 PM

13. It's funny how Republican-esque you sound

Just tossing out a lot of nasty-sounding words, sprinkle in some innuendo and a dash of faux outrage.

The majority of voters do not see Clinton in the way that you do. This is why we hold elections, to let the people decide who is the best candidate to represent them.

The voters rejected Sanders. It is time to come to grips with that.

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Response to trudyco (Reply #10)

Sat Jun 4, 2016, 06:16 PM

15. Millions more voted for Hillary

and don't agree with you.

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Response to Databuser (Original post)

Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:58 PM

11. But he came in second and since you believe in democracy... n/t.

 

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Response to Databuser (Original post)

Sat Jun 4, 2016, 06:01 PM

12. There is no such thing as "everybody gets a trophy" elections...

This is how democracy works.....Someone wins an someone loses

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Response to Databuser (Original post)

Sat Jun 4, 2016, 06:14 PM

14. By attempting to overturn the will of the voters

to substitute his opinion for the millions who have voted based on a few polls...what is Democratic about such a thing?

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Response to Databuser (Original post)

Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:50 PM

17. OH PLEASE!

Sanders and his supporters want to win the nomination even if he loses the popular vote and has less pledged delegates. That's as anti-democratic as possible.

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Response to Databuser (Original post)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:11 AM

18. That's the revolutionary part, giving power back to those who are supposed to have it!



As for who have wielded it:



Evidence of an American Plutocracy: The Larry Summers Story

By Matthew Skomarovsky
LilSis.org
Jan 10, 2011 at 19:31 EST

EXCERPT...

Another new business model Rubin and Summers made possible was Enron. Rubin had known Enron well through Goldman Sachs’s financing of the company, and recused himself from matters relating to Enron in his first year on the Clinton team. He and Summers went on to craft policies at Treasury that were essential to Enron’s lucrative energy trading business, and they were in touch with Enron executives and lobbyists all the while. Enron meanwhile won $2.4 billion in foreign development deals from Clinton’s Export-Import Bank, then run by Kenneth Brody, a former protege of Rubin’s at Goldman Sachs.

Soon after Rubin joined Citigroup, its investment banking division picked up Enron as a client, and Citigroup went on to become Enron’s largest creditor, loaning almost $1 billion to the company. As revelations of massive accounting fraud and market manipulation emerged over the next years and threatened to bring down the energy company, Rubin and Summers intervened. While Enron’s rigged electricity prices in California were causing unprecedented blackouts, Summers urged Governor Gray Davis to avoid criticizing Enron and recommended further deregulatory measures. Rubin was an official advisor to Gov. Davis on energy market issues at the time, while Citigroup was heavily invested in Enron’s fraudulent California business, and he too likely put pressure on the Governor to lay off Enron. Rubin also pulled strings at Bush’s Treasury Department in late 2001, calling a former employee to see if Treasury could ask the major rating agencies not to downgrade Enron, and Rubin also lobbied the rating agencies directly. (In all likelihood he made similar attempts in behalf of Citigroup during the recent financial crisis.) Their efforts ultimately failed, Enron went bust, thousands of jobs and pensions were destroyed, and its top executives went to jail. It’s hard to believe, but there was some white-collar justice back then.

SNIP...

Summers also starting showing up around the Hamilton Project, which Rubin had just founded with hedge fund manager Roger Altman. Altman was another Clinton official who had come from Wall Street, following billionaire Peter Peterson from Lehman Brothers to Blackstone Group, and he left Washington to found a major hedge fund in 1996. The Hamilton Project is housed in the Brookings Institution, a prestigious corporate-funded policy discussion center that serves as a sort of staging ground for Democratic elites in transition between government, academic, and business positions. The Hamilton Project would go on to host, more specifically, past and future Democratic Party officials friendly to the financial industry, and to produce a stream of similarly minded policy papers. Then-Senator Obama was the featured political speaker at Hamilton’s inaugural event in April 2006.

Summers joined major banking and political elites on Hamilton’s Advisory Council and appeared at many Hamilton events. During a discussion of the financial crisis in 2008, Summers was asked about his role in repealing Glass-Stegall, the law that forbade commercial and investment banking mergers like Citigroup. “I think it was the right thing to do,” he responded, noting that the repeal of Glass-Stegall made possible a wave of similar mergers during the recent financial crisis, such as Bank of America’s takeover of Merrill Lynch. He was arguing, in effect, that financial deregulation did not cause the financial crisis, it actually solved it. “We need a regulatory system as modern as the markets,” said Summers — quoting Rubin, who was in the room. “We need a hen house as modern as the food chain,” said the fox.

CONTINUED...

http://blog.littlesis.org/2011/01/10/evidence-of-an-ame... /



What's more undemocratic than having some people worth more than others based solely on their net worth?

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