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YouDig

(2,280 posts)
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:32 PM Jun 2016

I think I agree with Bernie about the Rome trip thing.

If people want to send him money so that he can go on luxury foreign vacations, then good for him. And from the looks of it, nobody who paid for that trip seems to be upset about it. So rock on Bernie Sanders. He's basically a rock star now anyway, enjoy the lifestyle. I think he should take another half-million dollar trip on his donors' dime after the campaign is done. Maybe a little opulence will mellow the guy out a bit.

And he or whoever booked that trip has a great eye for luxury hotels. I'm gonna check out that place out next time I'm in Rome.

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I think I agree with Bernie about the Rome trip thing. (Original Post) YouDig Jun 2016 OP
Except that taking a luxury foreign vacation is misuse of campaign funds Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #1
Is it actually illegal? Can't he say it was a campaign thing? He did get to sort of meet the pope, YouDig Jun 2016 #3
Misuse of campaign funds can result in prison. Jesse Jackson Jr. and Sandi Jackson went to prison Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #16
the speech qualifys as a campaign event larkrake Jun 2016 #32
It doesn't Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #37
Based on his inability to show his taxes, I'm sure he's got the money for it stashed somewhere... BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #52
No indication so far that it was even a little illegal. merrily Jun 2016 #41
I agree. I think it was legal, he wanted a luxury vacation, and was sitting on a pile of money. YouDig Jun 2016 #43
Johnny One Note, so boring. merrily Jun 2016 #47
It was misuse of campaign funds. Now, some of have go to jail, but most just pay their campaign Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #63
Prove it. News flash. It was a use of campaign funds. So far, only a Bernie hate site claims misuse. merrily Jun 2016 #64
PDF Link to the FEC campaign guide. Misuse of funds. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #66
Another lie. The guide says nothing about Bernie or the trip. merrily Jun 2016 #67
The PDF guide covers the rules. Read them. I am pretty sure that Sanders Campaign did not. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #68
The rules do not say Bernie misused campaign funds. Neither has the FEC said it, only a Bernie hate merrily Jun 2016 #69
LOL... Just LOL. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #70
Prove it. merrily Jun 2016 #74
What DOES that word "butthurt" mean? It's being used an awful lot today, esp. in this thread. blue neen Jun 2016 #73
If it were defined by context it would be that pain that a person feels when they have lost Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #76
This week Sanders tried to claim that Caesar Chavez annavictorious Jun 2016 #77
I saw that. That was crazy. He's kind of getting weird, stress and losing are getting to him. YouDig Jun 2016 #78
This scscholar Jun 2016 #28
Is this the meme du jour? TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #2
I'm not just over it, I'm in favor of him living some of the good life. YouDig Jun 2016 #4
Like hell you are. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #9
I like luxury travel, it would be hypocritical of me to complain about Bernie. YouDig Jun 2016 #15
You didn't have any money on the line for Hillary's speeches, did you? Corporate666 Jun 2016 #17
Seems like it. elleng Jun 2016 #35
I didn't realize the Sanders sent you a personal accounting of all their expenditures. Vinca Jun 2016 #5
That's what I've been reading. And I have no problem with it either way. Do you? YouDig Jun 2016 #7
No, but if you're taking the time to post about it you must think this reflects badly on Bernie. Vinca Jun 2016 #14
I'm proud of him for living it up a little. I think its good when people do something different. YouDig Jun 2016 #18
I Can't Stop Laughing Grassy Knoll Jun 2016 #31
I agree with him as well. By that point in the campaign, the outcome was pretty clear anotherproletariat Jun 2016 #6
As far as ethics, if any Bernie donor complains, then maybe. But none of them have. YouDig Jun 2016 #8
Ethics have much more to do with morals than whether or not someone complains. nt anotherproletariat Jun 2016 #11
Actually, it was illegal. MohRokTah Jun 2016 #71
I wonder how many $27 contributions it took to pay for the lobster sliders? DrDan Jun 2016 #10
The problem being ... NanceGreggs Jun 2016 #12
Yes, we did. raging moderate Jun 2016 #45
That's what I'm saying. His donors wanted to buy him a luxury vacation for him and his YouDig Jun 2016 #50
I have no doubt ... NanceGreggs Jun 2016 #79
You conveniently leave out his speech on income inequality but that's not surprising. think Jun 2016 #13
That was a nice touch. Half mil chartered flight to 5-star hotel to income inequality speech. YouDig Jun 2016 #19
Income inequality is at the highest levels since the great depression & you choose mockery as a think Jun 2016 #23
I'm not mocking, it's an important issue. All Dems agree about that. YouDig Jun 2016 #25
Do you not see the irony metroins Jun 2016 #38
Yes. Hillary supporters are always talking about income inequalty or is that "Free stuff"? think Jun 2016 #44
Deflection metroins Jun 2016 #46
Bernie was invited to speak. It was short notice. He went. Enjoy your poutrage... think Jun 2016 #48
Dude, metroins Jun 2016 #49
Dude. It was short notice and a limited time schedule. Enjoy making hay. Normally Bernie flies coach think Jun 2016 #51
Yes. And no. metroins Jun 2016 #53
Hillary got paid that much for 2 speeches from corrupt banks that bilked the American people for think Jun 2016 #58
Deflect metroins Jun 2016 #61
If he hadn't gone, Hillary supporters would have twisted that into a crime. raging moderate Jun 2016 #55
Did he have to take 10 family members and stay at 5-star hotels? Can't you see the hypocrisy in this lunamagica Jun 2016 #56
Look, transcripts of a speech Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #54
Who cares about the speech? The brunch buffet is where it's at. And the 3000 thread count sheets. YouDig Jun 2016 #57
Given the extravagances of this cushy, costly junket BeyondGeography Jun 2016 #20
I'm sure you are really concerned about income inequality. think Jun 2016 #24
totally a political speech larkrake Jun 2016 #34
"paid" opiate69 Jun 2016 #21
Good point. I'll fix it. Spelling, yo, that's where it's at. YouDig Jun 2016 #22
Spoken like a true plutocrat. Rex Jun 2016 #26
Me or Bernie? YouDig Jun 2016 #27
Must be on today's script handed out. HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #29
That I think Bernie is right is a script? Nah, I just like luxury travel, and I'm proud of him. YouDig Jun 2016 #30
Actually, it seems more like "butthurt" is the word du jour. blue neen Jun 2016 #39
More pitiful butthurt. Must be a slow newsday. merrily Jun 2016 #33
You have a very melman Jun 2016 #36
Yeah, it's so FR-like. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #40
At least three DUers I can name have the same distinctive style. merrily Jun 2016 #42
Wait until the book tour starts! yallerdawg Jun 2016 #59
I can't believe how often you get the really crappy shit to post. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2016 #60
Trashing this nonsense. 840high Jun 2016 #62
You should self delete this flame bait garbage. Trashing Thread B Calm Jun 2016 #65
Here's what I don't understand... brooklynite Jun 2016 #72
How much money has Brock sent you? jg10003 Jun 2016 #75
Ha ha, he stayed at the Papal residence. Barack_America Jun 2016 #80

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
1. Except that taking a luxury foreign vacation is misuse of campaign funds
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:34 PM
Jun 2016

and corruption.
If he is going to complain about corruption.

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
3. Is it actually illegal? Can't he say it was a campaign thing? He did get to sort of meet the pope,
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:36 PM
Jun 2016

and he tried to pretend that the pope endorsed him. I bet he can come up with some excuse that this was a campaign stunt and not just a vacation.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
16. Misuse of campaign funds can result in prison. Jesse Jackson Jr. and Sandi Jackson went to prison
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:46 PM
Jun 2016

for it.

Congressman Hunter in San Diego just got caught in those corrupt practices. Usually, they force the corrupt official to pay back the money out of pocket.

Both Jacksons Going To Prison For Misusing Campaign Funds

Congressman reportedly under fire for using campaign funds to buy video games

Proper Use of Campaign Funds and Resources

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
52. Based on his inability to show his taxes, I'm sure he's got the money for it stashed somewhere...
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:10 PM
Jun 2016

Heck, Jane's golden parachute would account for 1/3 of it alone.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
41. No indication so far that it was even a little illegal.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 06:53 PM
Jun 2016

Your colleagues found a Bernie hate site that lies through its font teeth and they've been very busy today spreading the lie, as they were six weeks ago.. That's all that happened.

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
43. I agree. I think it was legal, he wanted a luxury vacation, and was sitting on a pile of money.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 06:57 PM
Jun 2016

I think he could use more luxury vacations. A few more weeks in 5 star hotels, and he'll start to understand some things.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
63. It was misuse of campaign funds. Now, some of have go to jail, but most just pay their campaign
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:43 PM
Jun 2016

back from their own funds.

And, by the way, misuse of campaign funds is corruption.

I am sure it was simply an oversight and Sanders will repay the half million to his campaign out of pocket.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
64. Prove it. News flash. It was a use of campaign funds. So far, only a Bernie hate site claims misuse.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:44 PM
Jun 2016

Well, two Bernie hate sites, if we count the lying politicade.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
67. Another lie. The guide says nothing about Bernie or the trip.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:50 PM
Jun 2016

Which is true: The stench of desperation to post something bad about Bernie or the certainty you all profess that he is no threat to your candidate.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
68. The PDF guide covers the rules. Read them. I am pretty sure that Sanders Campaign did not.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:51 PM
Jun 2016

Misuse of Campaign funds is corruption.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
69. The rules do not say Bernie misused campaign funds. Neither has the FEC said it, only a Bernie hate
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:54 PM
Jun 2016

blog and a bunch of butthurt DUers, though only heaven knows what they are so butthurt about.

blue neen

(12,319 posts)
73. What DOES that word "butthurt" mean? It's being used an awful lot today, esp. in this thread.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:53 PM
Jun 2016

Also, why would a bunch of DU'ers be so-called "butthurt"?

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
76. If it were defined by context it would be that pain that a person feels when they have lost
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 09:07 PM
Jun 2016

but refuse to admit it.

I suspect it is part of a set of talking points.

 

annavictorious

(934 posts)
77. This week Sanders tried to claim that Caesar Chavez
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 09:25 PM
Jun 2016

would have endorsed him. The Chavez family not only said otherwise, but also expressed support for Hillary.

And two weeks ago he tried to claim the endorsement of an influential AIDS activist group. When they protested, Sanders's surrogates
immediately insisted that the activists were being paid off with money from Big Pharma.

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
78. I saw that. That was crazy. He's kind of getting weird, stress and losing are getting to him.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 09:29 PM
Jun 2016

All the more reason that he could use another million dollar weekend. Serious, if his donors' dollars are going to be used for either attacking HIllary and thus helping Trump win, or enjoying the world's most beautiful and exotic locales, I vote for exotic locales.

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
4. I'm not just over it, I'm in favor of him living some of the good life.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:37 PM
Jun 2016

Socialism is good in moderation, but who doesn't like a luxury hotel? I'm with Bernie.

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
15. I like luxury travel, it would be hypocritical of me to complain about Bernie.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:45 PM
Jun 2016

Suitcase carrying, I'm pretty sure that he has people for that. But speaking of suitcases, do you think he goes for like Louis Vuitton or Gucci? I'm not really into the fancy suitcase thing myself, I go elegant but functional.

Corporate666

(587 posts)
17. You didn't have any money on the line for Hillary's speeches, did you?
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:47 PM
Jun 2016

Have you complained about them?

Perhaps we should do a search? Hmmm.....

Vinca

(50,248 posts)
5. I didn't realize the Sanders sent you a personal accounting of all their expenditures.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:38 PM
Jun 2016

Do you have a link that proves this was paid for out of campaign funds?

Vinca

(50,248 posts)
14. No, but if you're taking the time to post about it you must think this reflects badly on Bernie.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:44 PM
Jun 2016

If Bernie sneezed you would post about it and claim he farted at the same time. I suppose because you "read it somewhere."

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
18. I'm proud of him for living it up a little. I think its good when people do something different.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:47 PM
Jun 2016

He's a grumpy socialist, then he spends a half mil to charter a plane and book his entourage into a 5-star hotel in Rome. That I can dig.

 

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
6. I agree with him as well. By that point in the campaign, the outcome was pretty clear
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:38 PM
Jun 2016

so it made good sense for him to use his newly found popularity to take advantage of such opportunities. It's not often that you can take your whole extended family to Rome, and not have to pay for it yourself. While it might not have been the best ethical decision, it certainly was legal and something that likely won't come around again.

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
8. As far as ethics, if any Bernie donor complains, then maybe. But none of them have.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:40 PM
Jun 2016

They are all happy they got to pay for a luxury Italian vacation for this great man. It's a win-win. Bernie gets to live the good life, and his donors get to feel good about paying for it.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
10. I wonder how many $27 contributions it took to pay for the lobster sliders?
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:41 PM
Jun 2016

they would definitely be on my menu - yummo

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
12. The problem being ...
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:43 PM
Jun 2016

... his donors didn't send him money for his Roman Holiday - they sent money for his campaign.

It's not up to him to say, well, my donors don't mind if I use their money for a family vacation.

It was just a matter of time before this particular shit hit the fan - and BS is an idiot if he didn't see it coming.

raging moderate

(4,296 posts)
45. Yes, we did.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 06:58 PM
Jun 2016

Last edited Sun Jun 5, 2016, 03:23 PM - Edit history (1)

We fully intended for Bernie Sanders to spend money attending a conference in Rome, if they invited him. and they did. And of course we understand about problems with security for a presidential candidate. And Sanders has just as much need to consider that factor as the Clintons do.

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
50. That's what I'm saying. His donors wanted to buy him a luxury vacation for him and his
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:05 PM
Jun 2016

20 best friends in a 5 star hotel and a private flight, and that's what he did. What's the issue? Next they're going to be complaining about the 10 thousand dollar Louis Vuitton bags he bought with donor money. The nerve of some people right?

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
79. I have no doubt ...
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 10:51 PM
Jun 2016

... that BS donors have no problem with the expenditure. The point is that it wasn't Bernie's call to use those funds as he did. There are laws governing the use of campaign funds, and saying "my donors won't mind" doesn't enter into it.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
13. You conveniently leave out his speech on income inequality but that's not surprising.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:44 PM
Jun 2016


Streamed live on Apr 16, 2016
FULL REPLAY: Bernie Sanders Amazing Speech in Vatican (4-15-16)

Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders is speaking at the Vatican Friday, praising Pope Francis and denouncing income inequality.

The Democratic presidential candidate, who is Jewish, announced last week that he would attend a conference on income inequality at the Vatican just days before the high-stakes New York primary.

Here is a transcript of his prepared remarks.

Read a part of the Transcript of his speech:-

I am honored to be with you today and was pleased to receive your invitation to speak to this conference of The Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences. Today we celebrate the encyclical Centesimus Annus and reflect on its meaning for our world a quarter-century after it was presented by Pope John Paul II. With the fall of Communism, Pope John Paul II gave a clarion call for human freedom in its truest sense: freedom that defends the dignity of every person and that is always oriented towards the common good.

The Church’s social teachings, stretching back to the first modern encyclical about the industrial economy, Rerum Novarum in 1891, to Centesimus Annus, to Pope Francis’s inspiring encyclical Laudato Si’ this past year, have grappled with the challenges of the market economy. There are few places in modern thought that rival the depth and insight of the Church’s moral teachings on the market economy.

Inexplicably, the United States political system doubled down on this reckless financial deregulation, when the U.S. Supreme Court in a series of deeply misguided decisions, unleashed an unprecedented flow of money into American politics. These decisions culminated in the infamous Citizen United case, which opened the financial spigots for huge campaign donations by billionaires and large corporations to turn the U.S. political system to their narrow and greedy advantage. It has established a system in which billionaires can buy elections. Rather than an economy aimed at the common good, we have been left with an economy operated for the top 1 percent, who get richer and richer as the working class, the young and the poor fall further and further behind. And the billionaires and banks have reaped the returns of their campaign investments, in the form of special tax privileges, imbalanced trade agreements that favor investors over workers, and that even give multinational companies extra-judicial power over governments that are trying to regulate them.

Pope Francis has called on the world to say: “No to a financial system that rules rather than serves” in Evangeli Gaudium. And he called upon financial executives and political leaders to pursue financial reform that is informed by ethical considerations. He stated plainly and powerfully that the role of wealth and resources in a moral economy must be that of servant, not master.
The widening gaps between the rich and poor, the desperation of the marginalized, the power of corporations over politics, is not a phenomenon of the United States alone. The excesses of the unregulated global economy have caused even more damage in the developing countries. They suffer not only from the boom-bust cycles on Wall Street, but from a world economy that puts profits over pollution, oil companies over climate safety, and arms trade over peace. And as an increasing share of new wealth and income goes to a small fraction of those at the top, fixing this gross inequality has become a central challenge. The issue of wealth and income inequality is the great economic issue of our time, the great political issue of our time, and the great moral issue of our time. It is an issue that we must confront in my nation and across the world.

As Pope Francis made powerfully clear last year in Laudato Si’, we have the technology and know-how to solve our problems – from poverty to climate change to health care to protection of biodiversity. We also have the vast wealth to do so, especially if the rich pay their way in fair taxes rather than hiding their funds in the world’s tax and secrecy havens- as the Panama Papers have shown.

The challenges facing our planet are not mainly technological or even financial, because as a world we are rich enough to increase our investments in skills, infrastructure, and technological know-how to meet our needs and to protect the planet. Our challenge is mostly a moral one, to redirect our efforts and vision to the common good. Centesimus Annus, which we celebrate and reflect on today, and Laudato Si’, are powerful, eloquent and hopeful messages of this possibility. It is up to us to learn from them, and to move boldly toward the common good in our time.

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
19. That was a nice touch. Half mil chartered flight to 5-star hotel to income inequality speech.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:48 PM
Jun 2016

Go Bernie. My kind of trip.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
23. Income inequality is at the highest levels since the great depression & you choose mockery as a
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 06:02 PM
Jun 2016

response. Go figure....

Economic inequality in the US reaches levels not seen since Great Depression

By Henry Gass, Staff writer NOVEMBER 10, 2014

Wealth inequality in the US is reaching its most extreme point since just before the start of the Great Depression in 1929, according to a new economic analysis. Even the 1 percent are lagging behind the 0.01 percent.

It's 2014, but when it comes to wealth inequality in the United States, it's starting to look a lot like 1929.

In the late 1920s, the top 10 percent of Americans possessed 84 percent of the country's wealth. Since then, wealth inequality in America has followed a U-shaped trajectory, declining through the Great Depression until the mid-1980s, then steadily increasing since then. Now, the richest Americans have a share of the country's wealth almost big enough to rival those in the late 1920s, according to a new study...

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/USA-Update/2014/1110/Economic-inequality-in-the-US-reaches-levels-not-seen-since-Great-Depression

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
25. I'm not mocking, it's an important issue. All Dems agree about that.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 06:05 PM
Jun 2016

And if I was going to give a speech about it, I can think of no more enjoyable way than with a private flight to Rome and a 5 star hotel for me and my 20 closest friends and family.

metroins

(2,550 posts)
38. Do you not see the irony
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 06:40 PM
Jun 2016

In what you're posting?

He spent 600k on a private charter to speak about income inequality in a different country.

600k.
Private charter.
Income inequality.

I think BS is old news, but I couldn't help but read your replies and see the irony.

Go ahead and say something about Hillary, or deflect, it won't take away from the irony in your post.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
44. Yes. Hillary supporters are always talking about income inequalty or is that "Free stuff"?
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 06:57 PM
Jun 2016

Good grief. Bernie went to the Vatican and gave a speech and you all lose it.

Hillary supporters tossed shit on it from every angle and tossed in this complaint to boot.

Yet when there are threads about big banks and how they exploited the American people in ways that cost millions of jobs and homes not a peep from Hillary supporters.

So if you want to pump your bullshit go right ahead but it's just a show so you can make hay.



metroins

(2,550 posts)
46. Deflection
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 06:59 PM
Jun 2016

As I knew you would and predicted.

Irony at its finest.

Campaign contributions.
600k private charter.
Income inequality.

metroins

(2,550 posts)
49. Dude,
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:02 PM
Jun 2016

You're talking

600k for a private charter
Then discussing income inequality.

You can fly 20 people to the Vatican and back on 50k.

If you don't see the irony, you're being biased.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
51. Dude. It was short notice and a limited time schedule. Enjoy making hay. Normally Bernie flies coach
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:07 PM
Jun 2016

You want to go into this? Really?

metroins

(2,550 posts)
53. Yes. And no.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:10 PM
Jun 2016

He hasn't flown coach since like October.

We don't have to discuss the actual trip if you don't want to, but I have a very difficult time taking an income equality speech seriously that cost over 600k for a weekend.

I just can't make that irony get out of my head.

It's the same thing as Hillary trying to relate to normal people, she hasn't driven in 20 years.

You can't go on about income inequality and spend the kind of cash Sanders has.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
58. Hillary got paid that much for 2 speeches from corrupt banks that bilked the American people for
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:13 PM
Jun 2016

billions.

Oh the irony.....


metroins

(2,550 posts)
61. Deflect
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:20 PM
Jun 2016

I can honestly see Hillarys flaws and I support her for president.

You can't even acknowledge that this was a bad decision and it's ironic.

Campaign contributions.
600k for private charter.
Income inequality.

There is no defending that. It's best to just own it and get back to the issues.

raging moderate

(4,296 posts)
55. If he hadn't gone, Hillary supporters would have twisted that into a crime.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:11 PM
Jun 2016

Last edited Sun Jun 19, 2016, 11:49 PM - Edit history (1)

All of Bernie's supporters are glad that he was asked to speak at that conference, and he spoke for all of us there. It was quite an honor for all of us. So, divided among all of us, it was really pretty cheap per person. Hillary Clinton does not confine herself to Southwest Airline's baby seats or Motel Six closet rooms or roadside hot dog stands when she travels.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
56. Did he have to take 10 family members and stay at 5-star hotels? Can't you see the hypocrisy in this
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:11 PM
Jun 2016

Don't you?

BeyondGeography

(39,367 posts)
20. Given the extravagances of this cushy, costly junket
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:50 PM
Jun 2016

and the topic of that speech, I'm thinking irony may not be your strong suit.

 

opiate69

(10,129 posts)
21. "paid"
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:54 PM
Jun 2016

Maybe you might want to pass 5th grade English class before trying to tackle the tougher subjects like political science. Just sayin'.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
29. Must be on today's script handed out.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 06:10 PM
Jun 2016

Appears to be today's talking point, or else it's sympathetic butthurt.

blue neen

(12,319 posts)
39. Actually, it seems more like "butthurt" is the word du jour.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 06:49 PM
Jun 2016

See post #33, for instance, posted right after yours.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
42. At least three DUers I can name have the same distinctive style.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 06:54 PM
Jun 2016

Must be a lot stinct going around.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
59. Wait until the book tour starts!
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:17 PM
Jun 2016

I'll be waiting for the 'men behind the myth' books to come out - Weaver and Devine will have quite a tale!

brooklynite

(94,453 posts)
72. Here's what I don't understand...
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:49 PM
Jun 2016

When you're in Rome, you don't spend a lot of time in your hotel room. When I travel there, I have a lovely hotel on the Aventine that only costs E160 a night, and is close to the train to the airport which only costs E8.50. Why would you stay a hotel that charges $400 a night?

jg10003

(975 posts)
75. How much money has Brock sent you?
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 09:05 PM
Jun 2016

Member since: Mon Apr 18, 2016, 07:35 PM
Number of posts: 1,880. 6 posts hidden.

Do you really think you're fooling anyone?


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