How much money did Hillary blow by setting up a personal server in her basement, wiping 3,000

[Seeinghope]

E-mails off of her server, causing an extensive FBI investigation, Inspector General investigation and any more of the costs associated with "her personal preference" of protecting her personal security over the nation's security?

I know that Hillary Clinton's supporter's are so upset the cost of Bernie Sander's "junket" to Rome. So I am wondering if anybody has a dollar figure on the E-Mail gate.

[riderinthestorm]

1. Now that's a good question. Millions at least

For a "mistake" Hillary deliberately set up to avoid the records keeping laws.

[Seeinghope]

4. Seriously! Hillary Clinton supporters are bitching about the cost of Bernie's junket to Rome

What about the cost of E-Mailgate? The taxpayers ARE footing the bill are they not?

[Seeinghope]

8. How about the taxpayers? Did I get a say if I wanted to support her jepordizing National Security?

NO! I still have to pay for her possible criminal acts and for endangering this country. A trip to Rome being funded by HIS SUPPORTERS does not compare.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

22. Abso-fuckin-lutely... we deserve an answer on this!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[Aerows]

46. I'd be ashamed of myself

if I was still supporting Hillary at this point.

I'm a Democrat, for heaven's sake.

[roguevalley]

52. I don't think people have really considered the end game here. This is a criminal investigation.

that means it won't be her getting served with a piece of paper, then issuing a dissenting statement. This will be her surrendering to the police, getting booked, finger printed and then a mug shot. Can't you just imagine what the pugs will do with her mugshot and bill's? Tell me again how we're supposed to win this thing with her?

[Aerows]

54. The only set of folks I see

still supporting her are those that are benefiting from supporting her. Sometimes you have to tell it like it is. There isn't enough PR in the universe to save her candidacy at this crossroad.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

58. Couldn't agree more. Hillary has completely "jumped the shark," especially in the way she has attacked Bernie... disgraceful.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[CorporatistNation]

65. AGREED! SECRECY, The Fibbing... The Cost... 150 FBI Agents PLUS Support Personnel.. $$MILLIONS$$!

And then there is THIS to consider as well...

e.g., MSNBC To the deniers... Watch THIS Video... It is not comforting to think that she may well be the Democratic Nominee...

Hillary really betrayed Andrea Mitchell... The entire context of this report was of a solemn nature... A Funeral so to speak...

Andrea Mitchell "I do not see this report as ...ANYTHING BUT... DEVASTATING!"

Chuck Todd "After this I don't think that she could get confirmed for Attorney General!"

Lots of FIBBING by Hillary here.. for more than a year!

[Lord Magus]

72. 150 agents plus support personnel? Do you get your info from Drudge and Breitbart?

That false claim was debunked months ago!

[dlwickham]

2. did she use campaign funds like Bernie did?

[riderinthestorm]

6. How much taxpayer $$ is being used to clear up this mess? Millions of our $$

The Sanders campaign was using funds willingly provided by his supporters.

I'm not ok with the millions being spent on Hillary’s deliberate use of a homebrew server to avoid record keeping laws.

[dlwickham]

9. he wasn't allowed to use those funds for his Rome trip

they were for his campaign-not his little jaunt to Rome

[grasswire]

26. you have some skin in that game? In the way of donations to BErnie?

If not, then it's really none your bidness. Show us the proof that he did anything illegal. And not from some two bit blogger.

[bigtree]

10. change the law, then

...the money Sanders spent is presumed to have been used in violation of campaign finance laws.

This is a new one, implying money spent for the server was illegal.

[George II]

41. But no laws were violated.

[Lord Magus]

69. None of that taxpayer money is being used to "clean up" anything.

I'm not okay with "progressives" latching onto a Republican smear as if it's legitimate.

[HooptieWagon]

3. I don't think a $ figure can be placed on the damage to national security.

But her lack of cooperation and secrecy is costing 10s of millions in investigative costs. And then there's future prosecution costs.

[jfern]

5. She blew $2 trillion by repeating all the Bush administration talking poihnts

about Iraq before voting for the Iraq war, and against any kind of diplomatic solution. Where's that Saddam Al Qaeda connection you lied about, Hillary? I never want to hear anything about "it's too expensive" from someone who supports such a candidate.

[dragonfly301]

7. I thought it was 30,000 emails wiped

only to be found on the cloud

[scscholar]

11. The vast majority of those were personal...

so she didn't have to turn them over. You'd expect to hear Republican talking points on the mass media and not here!

[Seeinghope]

15. 30,000 personal e-mails??? When did she actually work? The cost of Sanders trip to Rome should be

RW talking points yet the Clinton supporters keep bringing that up.

[scscholar]

18. Ever planned a wedding?

Much less a $3 million dollar wedding? I have no trouble believing those numbers.

[pnwmom]

42. 20 personal emails a day, including thank you's, forwards, etc. Big deal. n/t

[Seeinghope]

59. When was she working as Secretary of State? Didn't she hire a wedding planner? Didn't Chelsea

Help with the plans of her own wedding?

Hillary Clinton doing invitations??????? Thank you's???????? Did she do seating arrangements too?

Cannot get much more lame.

[Lord Magus]

70. The fact that you think an average 20 emails per day is such an outlandish number strikes me as odd.

These are the emails in both directions after all, both sent and received. Including the ones that went into the spam folder.

[winter is coming]

17. According to Hillary, who lied about the server being allowed and above-board.

I'm not inclined to take her word for it that the deleted emails were personal.

[scscholar]

19. It was allowed

That is proven by the fact that the State Department allowed her to keep using it.

[winter is coming]

44. Sophistry. n/t

[scscholar]

53. The fact that they allowed her to continue using it...

is proof that they allowed it. Otherwise, they wouldn't have allowed it. They let her.

[scscholar]

56. So you think that for four years, they didn't know?

You are really going out on a limb with your irrational attracts on the State Department.

[riderinthestorm]

61. Read the report. They did not know nt

[grasswire]

27. when they say "personal" they mean "Foundation"

it's very clear.

[pnwmom]

43. They knew she was using the server and didn't stop her. They allowed her to continue

using it, even if they didn't specifically authorize her to.

Just as they had allowed Colin Powell to use his personal AOL account.

[Seeinghope]

60. He did not have a personal server.

[pnwmom]

62. The regulations only distinguish between the .gov server and private servers.

Whether someone used a private AOL server vs. a private personal server didn't matter. The .gov server was the preferred (but not require) server.

[Lord Magus]

71. And why is that better? Or even substantively different at all?

I certainly can't imagine that AOL was more secure than Clinton's personal server.

[Lokijohn]

24. The 'vast majority'?

This is the first I've heard 'vast majority'. She said she deleted personal emails and took great care to turn over to the State Dept. anything that could possibly be considered government business. So has she now admitted to deleting some State Dept emails or is this your conclusion based on so many emails turning up that weren't included in what she finally turned over to the State Dept.?

[Autumn]

32. And out of that vast majority some of them were not personal. I expect an SOS to follow the

laws and guidelines on preserving Federal documents as the law requires.

[scscholar]

45. She turned over tens of thousands of emails?

Why is that not enough for the Republicans?

[Autumn]

49. Because the government, our government, not republicans require that those e mails be preserved.

Why aren't the laws and guidelines our government have set up in one of our most important government agencies enough for Hillary?

[DebDoo]

68. You make it sound as if she willingly handed them over at the time she left, as she was required to.

lol. Praising her for handing over her emails in the way that she did is like giving someone credit for returning their car after the repo man comes to collect it

[GreatGazoo]

85. You're saying that she deleted emails that were under subpoena

You might as well argue that the vast majority of people in California were NOT killed by OJ.

[MFM008]

12. you keep tryng this angle

and I find myself still not caring.
Get it out of your system by June 16 .....

[Seeinghope]

21. Why don't the Hillary Clinton supporters get the Rome visit out of their systems?

[grasswire]

28. it's just a chew toy for the weekend.

Sound and fury signifying nothing.

[bigtree]

13. spending campaign money on luxury hotels in Rome may be illegal

...money spent on Hillary's servers doesn't appear to violate any law.

All things are not equal. It's a slippery slope equating unrelated conduct, a two-edged sword. Yours isn't really the smartest argument.

[Seeinghope]

16. "Doesn"t appear". Why don't you let the FBI in on that? They could wind up their investigation

A little sooner then.

[bigtree]

23. you're hysterical

...and I don't mean in an entertaining kind of way.

[Aerows]

37. Nice misogynistic language there. n/t

[Seeinghope]

20. Wow! A day or 2 in Rome! How extravagant! Sneaking, using a private server secretly stored

In your basement handling all of the e-mail business of the United States Top Diplomat even though it was in clear violation of the procedures of your office is a far worse infraction. Endangering people's lives....possible lives of populations in countries, cities, towns........

The FBI think that it is worth the time and money to investigate for wrongdoing. The IG investigated and wrote a scathing report about what he found. So, yes, your right it isn't equal.

What Hillary Clinton did was sneaky, against the rules and procedures and endangered people's lives. It was discovered not happening out in the open.

What Bernie Sanders did was played out and known about as it was happening. There was no secret and there was no threat to national security.

[anotherproletariat]

29. You people need to stop for a minute and realize you are comparing two things that are not

related. This is why people think that Sanders supports are not sophisticated enough to make informed political decisions.

[Seeinghope]

63. How the candidates have money spent concerning their activities are most certainly related.

Clinton supporters seem too narrow minded too understand the scope of the different ways money is spent by their candidate and because of their candidate.

A candidate goes to a foreign country for a couple of days, stays in a nice hotel, eats, takes a plane.

A candidate uses a private e-mail server for all of her work and personal e-mails while serving as the highest government diplomat. She deals with confidential information and sensitive material on a regular basis. There could be names of people that might be involved with various operations that should remain anonymous. Over 30,000 e-mails are deleted.

The FBI and the IG both conducted investigations costing the taxpayers millions and millions of dollars and running. The IG has found great fault and untruths with Hillary Clinton statements. The FBI is still investigating.

So while you may think that Sanders supporters are not sophisticated enough to make informed political decisions, it looks like Hillary Clinton was not sophisticated enough to make informed political decisions about bypassing a secure approved system in the state department vs. A personal server in her basement. She did, after all, admit that she made "a mistake".

[Lord Magus]

73. Why are you posting Republican nonsense? Nobody's lives were endangered. At all. -nt-

[libdem4life]

14. Don't forget her staff cost....dozens of starry-eyed folk willing to "take the hit

for the Boss". Some of them working 2-3 jobs...getting full-time pay???? Now the legal bills, too...until she decides to sacrifice them to the poky or infamy.

Ah, but we must remember who we are dealing with here.

Oh, and it was 30,000 emails.

Now, what is the cost of the investigation from the State Department and the FBI...dozens of federal well-paid employees taking their time from real FBI or State work to coddle a pampered example of potential graft and greed.

Hey, going from broke to 8 figures ain't easy and it ain't cheap. What with all that staff to pay, and taxes and .... they must have made twice that, come to think about it.

[DURHAM D]

25. She didn't set it up.

She used existing server that her husband paid for... ya know he is like an x-President or something.

[grasswire]

31. it isn't the cost of the server that people are complaining about

it's the cost of the investigation and the upcoming prosecutions for the crimes she committed while hiding all of her work email from her boss but allowing it to be hacked by foreign entities.

[DURHAM D]

33. That is not what the OP says.

Your post is just silly.

[Aerows]

35. No, it isn't.

It's a dose of reality that some of you are in dire need of.

[grasswire]

36. the OP

How much money did Hillary blow by setting up a personal server in her basement, wiping 3,000 E-mails off of her server, causing an extensive FBI investigation, Inspector General investigation and any more of the costs associated with "her personal preference" of protecting her personal security over the nation's security?

What was that you said, again?

[Doctor Jack]

30. $11

and some change

[Aerows]

34. It is a shame

that as Democrats we are throwing money and hope at Hillary Clinton.

It is amazing.

[grasswire]

38. who woulda thunk it? nt

[Aerows]

40. It is so fouled up

I certainly wouldn't have thought it up, personally.

[grasswire]

48. Hollywood couldn't write this stuff.

This election will be one for the history books.

[Aerows]

51. There isn't an amount of money

you could pay me to sign on to flat out idiocy, and frankly, that is where Hillary's campaign is nose-diving into.

It is unfortunate that I've been given the heinous debt of being honest as hell, but such is life. I'm plain not phony enough to be convincing that Hillary Clinton will every be President.

[George II]

39. What does this have to do with the primaries OR Sanders' trip to the Vatican?

[Seeinghope]

64. Money and waste and which candidate is responsible for the most money wasted for the most

egregious reasons.

[Cheese Sandwich]

50. millions for sure.

[Karma13612]

57. It wasn't 3000, It was 30K. AND IIRC, the

Server was already set up for Bill Clinton.

I'm pro Bernie, but just wanted to get the facts straight.

[Seeinghope]

77. You are correct. I missed one of the -0- in 30000. Yes, Bill Clinton did have the server set up bu

Maybe sent a handful of e-mails on it. It was not in active use. It had to be "set-up- to be of use to Hillary. At least that is what I read.

[Karma13612]

78. I thought it was being used for the Clinton Foundation

And Global Initiative.

[Seeinghope]

81. Maybe I read wrong then. I thought that it was purchased for Bill Clinton's use and he really never

Used it. It could be that it was used for the Foundation and Global Initiative. If that is the case, wouldn't it be worse to be intermingling the server with the 3 different business applications?

[Karma13612]

82. Yup!! Eom

[tandem5]

67. one dollar, Bob!

[pdsimdars]

74. There's a video on youtube by some IT Sysop who worked for a large company and he

was talking about the private server. He said there is no way anyone would have one at home for "convenience". He said they are a total pain in the ass. He talked about all the things that are involved.
Then he talked about why Hillary will be indicted.

[SidDithers]

75. Get 'em in while you still can...nt

Sid

[peace13]

76. Why do you hate Hillary?

Someone had to say it. : )

[Seeinghope]

79. E-mail server. Using private server bypassing the State Department as iif she was above following

Rules and regulations. Her actions should carelessness and complete disregard for National Security in lieu of her person privacy. When questioned about this she made excuses and lied. This has led to an FBI investigation. The investigation by the IG has produced very negative findings.

The videos and video of her lies. There is certaiinly is no shortage of them. It is embarrassing to watch a Democratic candidate for President of the United States flip flop on and lie so easily.

The landing in gunfire and having to run under cover off of the Tarmak..... Did she not think that there was video? Does she not think that there are videos of her speech's?

Her Presidential run against Obama started showing her in a negative light. Even intimating race, her behavior became less than admirable and her facade started to crack. That is when I really started to dislike her.

The speeches to Wall Street/Goldman Sach like companies. Why hide the transcripts? What is so bad or secret that they have to be held secret? We are supposed to be able to trust our country to this person. We are suppose to trust this person to do what is best for all of us. How do we trust when something as simple as speech transcripts are such a matter of total secrecy? Why? What has to be kept secret...in a speech? It isn't National Security.

Her record as Secretary of State was was horrible. Libya, Syria, Honduras, Haiti, Iran.....no diplomacy......violent regime changing solutions, leaving countries with wide gaping wounds of innocent people murdered and/or maimed, homeless, then the birth of ISIS.....more terrorists. No remorse. More violent solutions that will end up creating bigger problems, more innocent bloodshed and more terrorists.

The Clinton Foundation. As Secretary of State giving arms contracts to many countries and those countries giving millions of dollars in donations to the Clinton Foundation. One word. Suspicious! Another word, if and when she takes office. Investigations.

Some of the primary contests....such as MA. You have Bill Clinton going to polling stations and standing within the 150 ft legal limit of the building. Breaking the law. Campaigning for Hillary Clinton and taking pictures with her supporters asking the voters for Bernie Sanders to move aside - blocking the doorway of the polling station. His entourage tied up traffic for at least a couple of hours. He went to at least a few polling stations doing the same thing. Interfering with voting.

Bill Clinton did the same thing in another state instead he went into the polling station with, I believe was the Mayor. It was a wink wink - on camera. Real funny!

There have been other Primary contests that have been suspicious...in my own mind. The numbers so close, called too early, disenfranchised voters......

Just flagerant disregard for laws and just total lack of integrity.

The looming FBI investigation. They may choose to indicte her possibly forcing her to resign. They may not. Either way Hillary Clinton has so many things that can and will be used against her.
The Republicans won't let those things go. She will be investigated and questioned incessantly by the Republicans. An impeachment is not a reach. This will divert the countries attention to what is happening in the world and at home. This will bring our country to a halt. Hillary Clinton knows this and does not care. She refuses to answer to these concerns BEFORE the election. So, the American people will have to endure the horrible aftermath because of personal ambition and hunger for power.

Finally her policies. Her attitude toward drilling, fracking, and pipelines values the fossil fuel industry over the environment when the people's values put the environment and climate change over industry.

She stands with private prisons, the death penalty, and marijuana criminalization when people want reform and decriminalization.

Bernie Sanders policies are far more to my liking. While some people say that they are far too grand you always have to reach for more than what you may get. Bernie Sanders has a long record of getting legislation and Ammendments. He is an experienced and seasoned Government public servant. His list of the policies that he has supported and Ammendments that he has passed with name associated to it and many other that doesn't show his name because frankly he didn't care just as long as the bill went thru just shows his strong commitment to the people...all kinds of people. Totally different than Hillary Clinton.

There is a choice. Hillary Clinton is not the better choice. She does not represent the 99%. Much of the policies that she supports I do not.

I hope that is complete enough for you.

[peace13]

80. Awesome synopsis!

Thanks for this. I probably needed that sarcasm thingy. May I copy this to share?

[Seeinghope]

83. Go right ahead! Thank you for liking it and not answering with the usual hatred and sarcasm! LOL!!

[peace13]

84. No I thought my original post could have used he sarcasm warning!

Loved your response!