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Link? WhiteTara Jun 2016 #1
Horse Manure OKNancy Jun 2016 #2
Ok, Nancy. Joob Jun 2016 #54
confirmed MFM008 Jun 2016 #3
I do. If she is indicted its criminal, not civil. She will have to surrender to arrest, get books an roguevalley Jun 2016 #44
Nothing surprises me when it comes to Hillary's disregard for security protocol... obviously unqualified to conduct foreign policy. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2016 #4
really, now: billymike Jun 2016 #5
Wow...She "broke rules"...n/t Henhouse Jun 2016 #6
I don't see anything "confirmed" in the OP; just a regurgitation of 2 weeks' worth of talking points Tarc Jun 2016 #7
Nothing is "confirmed" about all the posts today about Bernie's expenditures, so I trust you will merrily Jun 2016 #8
Being wrong is not a crime Tarc Jun 2016 #10
"Vote for me I made a mistake, I made a mistake , I will always make mistakes , so what" bahrbearian Jun 2016 #11
Don't hold your breath. nt Chezboo Jun 2016 #12
Try addressing what I actually posted, instead of "refuting" something I did not post merrily Jun 2016 #13
You posted som off-toic bellyaching about campaign expenditures, then said Tarc Jun 2016 #15
Again, try addressing what I posted. merrily Jun 2016 #17
I did address it Tarc Jun 2016 #29
Mischaracterizing what I posted is not addressing it. If you have nothing to say in response to what merrily Jun 2016 #32
Let's see... Tarc Jun 2016 #35
Repeating your mischaracterization and straw man responses is supposed to do what, exactly? merrily Jun 2016 #36
I don't understand why you continue to commit this fraud, but you do what do you, brah Tarc Jun 2016 #39
Yes, but mishandling classified information is a felony leveymg Jun 2016 #21
Material classified after the fact cannot be mishandled Tarc Jun 2016 #30
Incorrect. Jester Messiah Jun 2016 #49
That's not how it works. annavictorious Jun 2016 #53
Voting to invade the wrong country was a crime against humanity. pangaia Jun 2016 #27
Her iraq War vote alone should have disqualified her. Same for her foreign policy. merrily Jun 2016 #38
Any other cabinet level official has done the same Zambero Jun 2016 #9
Wrong. She is the only one to route State emails through her personal, private server Autumn Jun 2016 #14
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #16
I read the report, in my opinion it seems obvious to me that's why she did it. Autumn Jun 2016 #19
"...in my opinion..." Tarc Jun 2016 #31
It's my opinion. I'm sure you have one too. Autumn Jun 2016 #33
Seems highly likely. We know the one device excuse was false. merrily Jun 2016 #40
And weren't concerned people told never to speak of her personal email server again? Autumn Jun 2016 #46
Obviously, they thought it was wrong. Who am I to argue with Secretary Clinton, a trained attorney merrily Jun 2016 #50
At least she didn't 'shred the constitution' LOL!!! floppyboo Jun 2016 #24
OMG merrily Jun 2016 #41
I was considering starting an new OP with this floppyboo Jun 2016 #47
I think you should. Start it in the Sanders Group if you wish, but please do start it. merrily Jun 2016 #48
done floppyboo Jun 2016 #51
Great. merrily Jun 2016 #52
Yes, all videos are VRWC. Now, what was the question? LOL. libdem4life Jun 2016 #55
This excuse is getting old JesterCS Jun 2016 #20
Yet other State Dept. officials also broke the rules. randome Jun 2016 #25
Did they? Which rules about emails were in place for Albright, Powell and Rice? merrily Jun 2016 #42
It's not as if they're going for accuracy here. They less attention they pay, the merrily Jun 2016 #43
Former CIA Directors Petraeus and Deutch were both charged under Sec. 793 leveymg Jun 2016 #23
Deutch was not prosecuted and Petraeus knowingly gave away classified material. randome Jun 2016 #26
LOL ... this silly OP is the best you can do? JoePhilly Jun 2016 #18
She can do no wrong according to Hillary supporters jfern Jun 2016 #22
will you people get off it already.... chillfactor Jun 2016 #28
Yes she did, the report made that clear. Autumn Jun 2016 #34
Link to your source please... MineralMan Jun 2016 #37
the essential question here.... billymike Jun 2016 #45

Joob

(1,065 posts)
54. Ok, Nancy.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 09:12 PM
Jun 2016

We're just trying to avoid the first woman president being the most corrupt.


It's all going to come out sooner or later.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
44. I do. If she is indicted its criminal, not civil. She will have to surrender to arrest, get books an
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:25 PM
Jun 2016

fingerprinted. Then there is the mug shot. Imagine what Trump could do with a mug shot of our nominee? Saying it won't happen just because you don't want it won't prevent it. If it comes, that will be the outcome. Who is ready for that shit?

InAbLuEsTaTe

(25,518 posts)
4. Nothing surprises me when it comes to Hillary's disregard for security protocol... obviously unqualified to conduct foreign policy.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 06:25 PM
Jun 2016

Why Bernie is the right candidate at the right time... he's the steady hand, who knows how to handle classified information and will not overreact and get us into unnecessary wars, like Hillary.

Besides, Bernie will destroy the Trumpster fire in the general.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

Tarc

(10,601 posts)
7. I don't see anything "confirmed" in the OP; just a regurgitation of 2 weeks' worth of talking points
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 06:44 PM
Jun 2016

merrily

(45,251 posts)
8. Nothing is "confirmed" about all the posts today about Bernie's expenditures, so I trust you will
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 06:47 PM
Jun 2016

post accordingly on all those threads.

But, yes, a government report did confirm that Hillary was wrong.

Tarc

(10,601 posts)
10. Being wrong is not a crime
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 06:51 PM
Jun 2016

At most, we're in "tsk tsk, Hill" territoty, with regards to Emailgate. No "gross negligence", no Espionage Act, no RICO, or whatever absurdities y'all have pulled up with lately.

bahrbearian

(13,466 posts)
11. "Vote for me I made a mistake, I made a mistake , I will always make mistakes , so what"
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 06:56 PM
Jun 2016

merrily

(45,251 posts)
13. Try addressing what I actually posted, instead of "refuting" something I did not post
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 06:58 PM
Jun 2016

Tarc

(10,601 posts)
15. You posted som off-toic bellyaching about campaign expenditures, then said
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:03 PM
Jun 2016

"a government report did confirm that Hillary was wrong".

Don't hurt yourself on the backpedal, mr. merry.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
17. Again, try addressing what I posted.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:05 PM
Jun 2016

Backpedal from what? Do you even know what you're saying?

merrily

(45,251 posts)
32. Mischaracterizing what I posted is not addressing it. If you have nothing to say in response to what
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:56 PM
Jun 2016

I actually posted, you might think about not clicking on reply

Tarc

(10,601 posts)
35. Let's see...
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:01 PM
Jun 2016
Nothing is "confirmed" about all the posts today about Bernie's expenditures, so I trust you will post accordingly on all those threads.


A non sequitur which I chose to ignore, as it had no bearing on the present topic.

But, yes, a government report did confirm that Hillary was wrong.


To which I responded "being wrong is not a crime."

Ever since, you have been crying about how I didn't address the post, when, as anyone can see, I quite did.

By all means though, keep digging; your hole is getting deep.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
36. Repeating your mischaracterization and straw man responses is supposed to do what, exactly?
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:04 PM
Jun 2016

Dude, just stop clicking on reply.

Tarc

(10,601 posts)
39. I don't understand why you continue to commit this fraud, but you do what do you, brah
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:09 PM
Jun 2016

If you wish to stop dodging, gimme a holler.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
21. Yes, but mishandling classified information is a felony
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:32 PM
Jun 2016

Many, many counts of violation of 18 USC Sec 793 subsections (e) and (f) apply to her negligent and guilty mind acts we've been reading about in the NYT, WaPo, etc. since March 2015.

Tarc

(10,601 posts)
30. Material classified after the fact cannot be mishandled
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:55 PM
Jun 2016

You're falling back on claims debunked many months ago. Desperation sinking in?

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
49. Incorrect.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:52 PM
Jun 2016

If it is deemed later to have been classified, then it was classified from the get-go.

 

annavictorious

(934 posts)
53. That's not how it works.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 09:01 PM
Jun 2016

The Sanders side needs to publish a handbook of contorted logic for those of us in the reality based world.



pangaia

(24,324 posts)
27. Voting to invade the wrong country was a crime against humanity.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:50 PM
Jun 2016

Of course, on the other hand, it wasn't illegal.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
38. Her iraq War vote alone should have disqualified her. Same for her foreign policy.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:07 PM
Jun 2016

Combine those with her low honesty, trustworthy and likeability ratings then get down on your knees and thank whatever power you believe in that the Republicans didn't nominate anyone better than Trump. And then there were all the, um, untruths she told to, among other things, cover up over the emails and server.

Jaysus.

Zambero

(9,990 posts)
9. Any other cabinet level official has done the same
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 06:47 PM
Jun 2016

Ever since the internet was available for communications. In their capacity they exercise personal judgment on what is secure and confidential or otherwise. But wait, Hillary Clinton is running for president. Let's single her out and blow it up out of proportion in order to score political points. Republicans are adept at using distractions tin order to win elections this way after all. What, you mean to say that certain "progressives" are jumping on board the Howdy Dowdy brigade, and engaging in this brand of Swift boating as well?

Autumn

(48,962 posts)
14. Wrong. She is the only one to route State emails through her personal, private server
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:02 PM
Jun 2016

in order to avoid FOIA requests.

Response to Autumn (Reply #14)

Autumn

(48,962 posts)
19. I read the report, in my opinion it seems obvious to me that's why she did it.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:10 PM
Jun 2016

And that hasn't yet been proved to be right...or wrong.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
40. Seems highly likely. We know the one device excuse was false.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:13 PM
Jun 2016

Besides, who gets to do what they want simply because they find doing what they want easier than doing what they are supposed to do?

Hard to think what else motivated wiping the server.

Autumn

(48,962 posts)
46. And weren't concerned people told never to speak of her personal email server again?
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:31 PM
Jun 2016

Yes they were, had to look it up

Two staff in S/ES-IRM reported to OIG that, in late 2010, they each discussed their concerns about Secretary Clinton’s use of a personal email account in separate meetings with the then-Director of S/ES-IRM,” claims one section of the report.

In one meeting, one staff member raised concerns that information sent and received on Secretary Clinton’s account could contain Federal records that needed to be preserved in order to satisfy Federal recordkeeping requirements. According to the staff member, the Director stated that the Secretary’s personal system had been reviewed and approved by Department legal staff and that the matter was not to be discussed any further. As previously noted, OIG found no evidence that staff in the Office of the Legal Adviser reviewed or approved Secretary Clinton’s personal system. According to the other S/ES-IRM staff member who raised concerns about the server, the Director stated that the mission of S/ES-IRM is to support the Secretary and instructed the staff never to speak of the Secretary’s personal email system again.

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/2842429/ESP-16-03-Final.pdf

merrily

(45,251 posts)
50. Obviously, they thought it was wrong. Who am I to argue with Secretary Clinton, a trained attorney
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:54 PM
Jun 2016

with years in federal government, in one capacity or another?

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
47. I was considering starting an new OP with this
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:43 PM
Jun 2016

but the reaction would be too predictable. Must be a RW source! Oh, or is it?

merrily

(45,251 posts)
48. I think you should. Start it in the Sanders Group if you wish, but please do start it.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:51 PM
Jun 2016

JesterCS

(1,828 posts)
20. This excuse is getting old
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:26 PM
Jun 2016

If you actually paid any attention, what she did is far different than "other" govt officials

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
25. Yet other State Dept. officials also broke the rules.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:46 PM
Jun 2016

They have that in common. Clinton broke them differently. BFD.
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merrily

(45,251 posts)
42. Did they? Which rules about emails were in place for Albright, Powell and Rice?
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:16 PM
Jun 2016

Which of them had private servers that they wiped after an FOIA request?

Most significantly, which of them is running for POTUS?

merrily

(45,251 posts)
43. It's not as if they're going for accuracy here. They less attention they pay, the
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:17 PM
Jun 2016

fewer distinctions they see, the better for their, um, arguments.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
23. Former CIA Directors Petraeus and Deutch were both charged under Sec. 793
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:36 PM
Jun 2016

of the Espionage Act. There is precedent for prosecuting Secretary Clinton.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
26. Deutch was not prosecuted and Petraeus knowingly gave away classified material.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:49 PM
Jun 2016

Big difference.
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