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arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:28 PM Jun 2016

3 million +

That is how many more Democrats have voted for the next president over her Quixotic opponent.

Let that sink in as you dream of contested conventions and indictments that will never happen.

Democrats prefer Clinton.

Overwhelmingly.

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3 million + (Original Post) arely staircase Jun 2016 OP
That is a number that no one can get around.. Peacetrain Jun 2016 #1
They really fantasize about delegates thwarting the people's will. arely staircase Jun 2016 #5
Not going to happen.. Peacetrain Jun 2016 #9
Not in a million years. arely staircase Jun 2016 #10
They talk like Trotskyites not Democrats. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #13
Except it's entirely false. You leave out the states with caucuses. Typical distortion. rhett o rick Jun 2016 #29
If caucuses were added, it would at most drop it to 2.8million. Tarc Jun 2016 #31
Contrary to popular belief here second place is not the new first place. hrmjustin Jun 2016 #2
+1 grossproffit Jun 2016 #12
Votes don't matter if they're not for Bernie. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #3
Well so much for unity for the general. The hubris and arrogance will be the downfall rhett o rick Jun 2016 #30
An inaccurate accounting as they don't add in caucus states, but you knew that. AtomicKitten Jun 2016 #4
Except the caucus states don't overcome 3M+ votes. Maybe 300-400K at most. LonePirate Jun 2016 #26
crowd control reddread Jun 2016 #6
yeah but EVERY one of those votes was fraud, cheating, rigged, voter suppression says the bernie msongs Jun 2016 #7
or from the south (AA) arely staircase Jun 2016 #50
Caucus votes don't count...is that what you're saying?!? Jack Bone Jun 2016 #8
You might not want to go there with that one.. caucus voter here.. IA Peacetrain Jun 2016 #14
Just sayin...is the 250 in the count, or not? Jack Bone Jun 2016 #16
Hillary got 125.. Bernie got 125 Peacetrain Jun 2016 #19
And neither is Hillary (n/t) Amaril Jun 2016 #37
Votes are not cast in a caucus. annavictorious Jun 2016 #22
Yep.. in the republican caucus in IA they do a straw poll Peacetrain Jun 2016 #23
You made my point...total vote count is irrelevant. Jack Bone Jun 2016 #39
Irrelevant in our system AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #11
I remember when, as a liberal, it was great to have big dreams for progress Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #15
Seriously-- fuck that Fast Walker 52 Jun 2016 #18
We are surrounded by turds! Cover your head! Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #20
Quixotic is used to describe a pointless endeavor doomed to failure. LonePirate Jun 2016 #28
his campaign is not pointless, nor is it completely hopeless Fast Walker 52 Jun 2016 #49
If he is campaigning to win, then yes. LonePirate Jun 2016 #52
what an obnoxious post Fast Walker 52 Jun 2016 #17
And Hillary is really popular with a lot more...nt joeybee12 Jun 2016 #27
Think of how popular Bernie is. arely staircase Jun 2016 #34
BoBs don't care about the people. MoonRiver Jun 2016 #21
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #24
Here is how we deal with that. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #25
Yeah, how about Hillary and her supporters stop pissing on the 10 million? MillennialDem Jun 2016 #32
Hillary is not pissing on Bernie's supporters. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #33
Yes she is. MillennialDem Jun 2016 #35
Why, because she's winning against Bernie or because geek tragedy Jun 2016 #36
She is not doing anything to appeal to Bernie supporters other than saying "fuck you, I won, MillennialDem Jun 2016 #45
That is not "pissing on Sanders supporters" geek tragedy Jun 2016 #47
No, but she doesn't have my vote yet. MillennialDem Jun 2016 #48
Getting it out of your system yet? Amaril Jun 2016 #38
Your numbers are worthless. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2016 #40
Look forward to your support for the nominee. arely staircase Jun 2016 #42
No.none.never. SwampG8r Jun 2016 #46
I wouldn't say overwhelmingly, but HRC has a clear majority of votes. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #41
While you're busting Uponthegears Jun 2016 #43
And yet she has no path to the presidency. basselope Jun 2016 #44
Fake number. Not real, typical Clinton spin. ThePhilosopher04 Jun 2016 #51
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
29. Except it's entirely false. You leave out the states with caucuses. Typical distortion.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 09:10 PM
Jun 2016

Seems the Clinton devotees are willing to sell their souls for a victory. The People will prevail over the Rich and Powerful and their minions that are terrified to fight for their freedoms. I don't mind it you want to grovel before your chosen authoritarian leader, but please think about all the people that will suffer if we have a Goldman-Sachs sponsored presidency. How can you turn your backs on the 2.5 million American children that are homeless? Oh I know, Clinton will give them cake.

Tarc

(10,475 posts)
31. If caucuses were added, it would at most drop it to 2.8million.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 09:17 PM
Jun 2016

So, not really much of a difference,

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
3. Votes don't matter if they're not for Bernie.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:31 PM
Jun 2016

He makes Snott Walker look like a champion in terms of respecting the sanctity of the vote.

And he makes Ted Cruz look like a humble team player.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
30. Well so much for unity for the general. The hubris and arrogance will be the downfall
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 09:13 PM
Jun 2016

of the Clinton Aristocracy.

LonePirate

(13,408 posts)
26. Except the caucus states don't overcome 3M+ votes. Maybe 300-400K at most.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 09:04 PM
Jun 2016

Would a 2.5M number be more accurate for you?

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
6. crowd control
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:32 PM
Jun 2016

such modesty from the Clinton campaign during the 2016 campaigns closing moments demonstrates

something.

msongs

(67,367 posts)
7. yeah but EVERY one of those votes was fraud, cheating, rigged, voter suppression says the bernie
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:32 PM
Jun 2016

crowd. of course there was NO fraud, cheating, rigged, voter suppression where bernie won. how odd that.

Peacetrain

(22,872 posts)
14. You might not want to go there with that one.. caucus voter here.. IA
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:37 PM
Jun 2016

I live in a district with thousands of voters and only 250 people at caucus.. just saying

 

annavictorious

(934 posts)
22. Votes are not cast in a caucus.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:54 PM
Jun 2016

Group preferences are measured in a caucus.

But if you want to somehow calculate how many votes a caucus represents and count them, Hillary will still be winning by millions.

And while we're counting hypothetical votes that can't be counted, maybe we should also count votes that don't yield delegates like those in non-biding primaries. In Nebraska and Washington where Clinton lost the caucus, but won the primary, tens of thousands more people participated in these contests by voting.

I sure hope that the super delegates in Nebraska and Washington respect the choice of the primary voters.

Peacetrain

(22,872 posts)
23. Yep.. in the republican caucus in IA they do a straw poll
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:58 PM
Jun 2016

vote.. but on the Democratic side.. we stand and are counted.. and in order to be viable you have to have at least 15% of the people there.. so we are counted individually to gt that percentage.. If you don't have 15% you have to disband.. you can join another group.. or leave..and then by the number of individual in your group they figure out how many county delegates the nominee gets.. they spit it at my caucus..

 

Ned_Devine

(3,146 posts)
15. I remember when, as a liberal, it was great to have big dreams for progress
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:38 PM
Jun 2016

Now it's called "quixotic" as a way of saying "fuck you" to anyone that dares stray from the status quo of incremental nothingness. Well, fuck that.

Overwhelmingly

LonePirate

(13,408 posts)
28. Quixotic is used to describe a pointless endeavor doomed to failure.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 09:08 PM
Jun 2016

Bernie's campaign could not be considered to be quixotic until April 26. Before then you could argue he had a chance. Since that date, he has had no chance to win, hence the use of the word quixotic to describe his campaign. He has lost and everybody can see that except the hardcore Bernie supporters. Perhaps they will see light on Tuesday once the media officially declares Hillary the winner and pressure mounts on Bernie to concede.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
17. what an obnoxious post
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:41 PM
Jun 2016

"quixotic"? Obnoxious.

"dream of contested conventions and indictments that will never happen"? Obnoxious.

No need to be arrogant.

Bernie is really really popular with a LOT of Dems. Please respect that.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
34. Think of how popular Bernie is.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 09:24 PM
Jun 2016

Then add 3 million.

Now you are talking popular.

3 fucking million Democrats more.

Response to arely staircase (Original post)

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
36. Why, because she's winning against Bernie or because
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 09:28 PM
Jun 2016

she's attacking Donald Trump, or is there some other imaginary grievance you're not telling us about.

 

MillennialDem

(2,367 posts)
45. She is not doing anything to appeal to Bernie supporters other than saying "fuck you, I won,
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 11:15 PM
Jun 2016

vote for me if you're not assholes. Oh and I'm not Trump"

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
47. That is not "pissing on Sanders supporters"
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 11:21 PM
Jun 2016

She is running against Donald Trump.

She is not your therapist.

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
40. Your numbers are worthless.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 09:37 PM
Jun 2016

Because of primaries counted differently, and the incessant vote tampering.

Nobody thinks it's valid, so I don't know what you think it does for you to keep repeating it. There is no point you're winning with it. Although it is amusing to watch you keep thinking you are.

If Hillary was such a great candidate, she could have afforded to run a fair election without all the shenanigans.

There isn't anything we could do about it, but don't labor under the delusion that we buy it as a legitimate indicator of anything whatsoever.

SwampG8r

(10,287 posts)
46. No.none.never.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 11:18 PM
Jun 2016

I will.disengage and focus on decent honest progressive down ticket dems
The rules.are clear. I am not expected to.support her here or for that matter anywhere as long as i dont make a big deal out of it or encourage others to.follow me in my complete quiet non support of hrc.
I will.say adios.to the potus election and work for tim canova.

aikoaiko

(34,163 posts)
41. I wouldn't say overwhelmingly, but HRC has a clear majority of votes.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 09:43 PM
Jun 2016

And this is why Bernie needs to continue to fight for every vote and every delegate. The winners will lord over every net vote as evidence of her superiority.



 

Uponthegears

(1,499 posts)
43. While you're busting
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 09:49 PM
Jun 2016

At the seams over the fact that Hillary has 3 million more recorded popular votes and looking down your nose at Bernie's 10 million followers like they were following Jim Jones into the jungle, ask yourself this . . . Who was the last Democratic presidential candidate to win the GE by more than 10 million votes . . . How's that for Kool-aid?

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