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Onlaketime

(65 posts)
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:51 AM Jun 2016

Which candidate do you think American needs right now and why?

Simple question. Please be civil and explain how the choice you believe in will fix the myriad of problems the US is now experiencing.

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Which candidate do you think American needs right now and why? (Original Post) Onlaketime Jun 2016 OP
Bernie Sanders SamKnause Jun 2016 #1
Hillary and Trump are disliked and distrusted, saltpoint Jun 2016 #2
Bernie bigwillq Jun 2016 #3
The candidate who won the primary Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #4
Love, sweet love nt firebrand80 Jun 2016 #5
Love of what? Onlaketime Jun 2016 #7
Bernie. The US is in a rut, Bernie is not in the same rut. n/t RKP5637 Jun 2016 #6
Is this a homework question? splat Jun 2016 #8
No, its a serious question. One that cuts to the heart of what is needed Onlaketime Jun 2016 #10
I think this guy could fix everything... Yurovsky Jun 2016 #9
Please stop wth the childishness. Onlaketime Jun 2016 #12
The candidate who gets the most votes in the Democratic primary process oberliner Jun 2016 #11
That would be the candidate with the most pledged delegates after all primaries are over. -nt- NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #13
Sounds reasonable to me oberliner Jun 2016 #15
Nof that deals with what America needs right now. Onlaketime Jun 2016 #16
I think either Democratic candidate would be a good choice oberliner Jun 2016 #17
I think Hillary will be offering more of the same that we are expeiencing right now. Onlaketime Jun 2016 #18
I'm pretty satisfied with the job Obama has done so far oberliner Jun 2016 #19
How is maintaining the status quo and embracing the Neocon agenda Onlaketime Jun 2016 #21
Muhammad Ali Rex Jun 2016 #14
I know it's not any of three remaining in the race Lurks Often Jun 2016 #20
We need TR to trust bust and love the environment But... HereSince1628 Jun 2016 #22
there's only one candidate up to the job of governing, and that's the candidate geek tragedy Jun 2016 #23
We need a Democrat in the White House, period. justiceischeap Jun 2016 #24
Hillary because she is more qualified and prepared for the job right now than anybody in history.eom MohRokTah Jun 2016 #25
Seems the people have spoken through their millions of votes... Democrats Ascendant Jun 2016 #26
About two-thirds of 29% of people have spoken in the Democratic primary; Maedhros Jun 2016 #28
Thank you for providing the best and most appropriate answer. Onlaketime Jun 2016 #30
The candidate with ideas and plans to implement the ideas. tarheelsunc Jun 2016 #27
Was all the money the Clinton Foundation took from Saudi sheiks and Ukrainian oligarchs a good idea? Onlaketime Jun 2016 #29

SamKnause

(14,825 posts)
1. Bernie Sanders
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:59 AM
Jun 2016

This country needs to take a sharp hard turn to the left.

Our citizens have earned and deserve better.

Our government has abandoned the needs and wants of its citizens.

Bernie will nominate and appoint people who understand what needs

to be done, how to get it done, and how to undue the damage that has been done.

He has earned my respect.

He has earned my admiration.

The time is now.

Our country can not continue down this destructive path.





saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
2. Hillary and Trump are disliked and distrusted,
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:59 AM
Jun 2016

and for measurable reasons. They no longer reflect the national culture they aspire to lead.

The landscape has changed, significantly, and new standard-bearers are required.

Sanders is the candidate who most reflects the shift in the national culture, the change in the dialogue with which problems are likely to be addressed in the future. He was decades ahead of Hillary on this. Hillary represents both the party's past and its least attractive features. She's cautious to a fault, demonstrably untruthful, and her campaign remains glaringly absent a unifying vision.

No matter who wins the Democratic nomination, Bernie Sanders' candidacy is the one that will instruct the future of the party. And properly so.

Demsrule86

(71,519 posts)
4. The candidate who won the primary
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:02 AM
Jun 2016

Hillary Clinton. She will save the courts and protect progressive progress and may if she beats Trump badly enough...get the House back...then the sky is the limit...without the House the courts are what is important.

 

Onlaketime

(65 posts)
10. No, its a serious question. One that cuts to the heart of what is needed
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 04:12 PM
Jun 2016

and what isn't needed. If you can't give an serious answer then please don't bother responding. The country needs serious answers, not pedantic posts that water down the debate.

 

Onlaketime

(65 posts)
16. Nof that deals with what America needs right now.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 06:02 PM
Jun 2016

And it has been proven quite recently that the US is not a democracy, by the way. It is a corporatocracy where oligarchs purchase power operating under the guise of a democracy. Back to the question at hand, which candidate is the country in dire need of considering all the problems it is facing.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
17. I think either Democratic candidate would be a good choice
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 06:04 PM
Jun 2016

They both would move the country in a positive direction and address the problems we are facing.

 

Onlaketime

(65 posts)
18. I think Hillary will be offering more of the same that we are expeiencing right now.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 06:21 PM
Jun 2016

The same slow decay domestic agenda. The same handouts to corporations. The same warmongering foreign policy that hands a golden goose to the Neocons. The same military industrial complex growth that is robbing us of our savings.


I think Bernie would address these issues in a manner that could actually resolve them and make Americans lives better. What say you?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
19. I'm pretty satisfied with the job Obama has done so far
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 06:30 PM
Jun 2016

I think either Bernie or Hillary would keep us moving in the right direction. Though either of them would have to deal with a Congress that is likely to have a Republican majority, so that will be a challenge.

As long as we keep speaking out for the issues that matter, positive change is possible.

 

Onlaketime

(65 posts)
21. How is maintaining the status quo and embracing the Neocon agenda
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 06:59 PM
Jun 2016

considered as a positive change in any way, shape or form? You do realize that a number of prominent Neocons who are destroying counties and families overseas are endorsing Hillary because they expect to get more of their war on?

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
20. I know it's not any of three remaining in the race
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 06:55 PM
Jun 2016

and anyone who could do a good job is probably smart enough not to want the damn job in the first place.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
22. We need TR to trust bust and love the environment But...
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:22 PM
Jun 2016

well, he's dead.

But can you imagine a Clinton vs TR debate? Wow. Just WOW!

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
23. there's only one candidate up to the job of governing, and that's the candidate
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:23 PM
Jun 2016

who coincidentally has the most votes

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
24. We need a Democrat in the White House, period.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:30 PM
Jun 2016

Not because they will be able to do much of anything of import, because for the next two years, they won't. However, the most significant change they can address is the US Supreme Court. I don't think people really realize the long-lasting effects the USSC has on the direction of our country. The laws they uphold and create by rulings often have longer lasting effects than anything one President can do without a Congress to go along with them.

Look at Citizens United and what it's done to politics. The reason CU passed is because of previous USSC picks that were sitting on the bench when it came before them. Different Presidents/different Justices and we'd have a different outcome on that decision and the political landscape today would look different.

Imagine what a Trump USSC Justice would look like. You think CU is bad? Just imagine things that could come before the next court with a Trump pick or 3. Roe v. Wade? Gone. I'm sure any case that was brought before the court to dismantle marriage equality would make gay marriage a thing of the past--before I even have the chance to meet and marry my future wife.

So, in the matter of the USSC, the Democratic nominee is what this nations needs.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
28. About two-thirds of 29% of people have spoken in the Democratic primary;
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:07 PM
Jun 2016

probably the same ratio of 26% of people have spoken in the Republican primary.

I'd be curious to know what the majority of the remaining 45% think.

As for what the country needs? It needs to realize that what it has been doing for the last 40 years is not working. It needs a candidate that will not continue to make the same mistakes as her predecessors. It needs a candidate that recognizes that the real fight is FOR the people and not just against the rivals. It needs a candidate with demonstrated integrity and the ability to bring people together, not polarize them further.

Most of all, it needs a candidate that realizes that our wars are destroying us as much as the enemies we are making.

Maybe we'll get lucky and have that candidate.

 

Onlaketime

(65 posts)
30. Thank you for providing the best and most appropriate answer.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:22 PM
Jun 2016

Compared to the other posts in this thread (aside from the first three), yours stands out as a beacon of intelligence and hope in what appears to be a deceptively dark night. We need Bernie Sanders now, more than ever.

tarheelsunc

(2,117 posts)
27. The candidate with ideas and plans to implement the ideas.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:02 PM
Jun 2016

Only Hillary Clinton has presented detailed ideas. Her competitors talk a big game, but haven't presented ANYTHING concrete.

 

Onlaketime

(65 posts)
29. Was all the money the Clinton Foundation took from Saudi sheiks and Ukrainian oligarchs a good idea?
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:11 PM
Jun 2016

Was speaking on behalf of and taking huge payments from Goldman Sachs a good idea? Was the bombing of the country of Libya a good idea? Was selling billions in weapons to the Saudis to drop on schools, hospitals and Doctors Without Borders a good idea? Was
Laughing about Ghaddafi's death on national TV a good idea now we see that has led to tens of thousands of women, children and men drowning in the Mediterranean?

Just curious because it seems a lot of people are willing to look the other way on what appears to be self serving and somewhat sociopathic behavior.

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