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Martin O'Malley for VP .. the best choice all around (Original Post) Peacetrain Jun 2016 OP
Fuck I might actually vote for that combination! Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #1
It would be such an awesome combination.. Peacetrain Jun 2016 #2
Good morning Peacetrain Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #13
Good Morning Silver_Witch Peacetrain Jun 2016 #18
He would be an excellent choice. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #3
Absolutely!! Peacetrain Jun 2016 #7
I very much agree! Raine1967 Jun 2016 #47
I would be ok with MoM (nt) bigwillq Jun 2016 #4
Yep.. I think he is a good choice for all of us Peacetrain Jun 2016 #20
What has he been up to? oberliner Jun 2016 #5
He has not endorsed anyone Peacetrain Jun 2016 #15
Thanks for the info oberliner Jun 2016 #25
All Democrats will hit the trail for the Democratic nominee Peacetrain Jun 2016 #34
Is that true? oberliner Jun 2016 #38
O'Malley has a bright future. God knows we need someone who cares @ climate change Arazi Jun 2016 #6
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Peacetrain Jun 2016 #10
^^^ Yep (nt) Recursion Jun 2016 #31
Good possibility, if HRC. I save my "if" until when all is said and done. libdem4life Jun 2016 #8
I think he would be a good choice for all of us!! Peacetrain Jun 2016 #21
he's certainly very, very qualified in every way possible geek tragedy Jun 2016 #9
VP choice is who can best back up the President Peacetrain Jun 2016 #12
O'Malley for me is someone who when I look at the rational arguments geek tragedy Jun 2016 #14
You know.. I think he will do just fine geek t.. Peacetrain Jun 2016 #16
he's one person I know will do very well at whatever he does. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #22
ROFL! Peacetrain Jun 2016 #24
And that's the rub. We don't need help in the mid-Atlantic. Recursion Jun 2016 #33
to play Devil's Advocate, neither did Obama when he chose Biden. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #36
By that argument I think O'Malley is a front runner Recursion Jun 2016 #37
Not enthused about Kaine either, want to keep him in the Senate. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #39
My VP pick for Sanders was Landrieu Recursion Jun 2016 #40
Agreed...Qualified and..... asuhornets Jun 2016 #11
ROFL.. never thought of a politician that way Peacetrain Jun 2016 #23
My wife was never an O'Malley fan, but she did say Recursion Jun 2016 #41
LOL....nt asuhornets Jun 2016 #42
Some would have problems with that. I personally think that would be a solid choice. Nt seabeyond Jun 2016 #17
Well sea.. I do not know of anyone, that someone would not have issues with Peacetrain Jun 2016 #19
I was for Sanders before I was for OMalley, before I was for Clinton. Lol. I use the primary to seabeyond Jun 2016 #26
I have met the Gov.. listened to him speak so many times Peacetrain Jun 2016 #28
And that is true. Policy, .... really, seabeyond Jun 2016 #30
Sea I know I have told this one so many times people probably Peacetrain Jun 2016 #32
My oldest. Knee deep in academia. His number one issue is the environment. Mine, people. seabeyond Jun 2016 #35
OMalley was too smart and thorough and did his homework, knew what he was talking about, PragmaticLiberal Jun 2016 #53
I think he'd be amazing as VP, and would be a strong candidate to run next. Recursion Jun 2016 #27
There is a big ME TOO!! from me Peacetrain Jun 2016 #29
What about Metrolab? (Would have have accepted that position ... NurseJackie Jun 2016 #43
No way. MOM brings nothing to the table. Kang Colby Jun 2016 #44
O'Malley brings a lot of executive experience. Baucus would be a horrible choice. Jim Lane Jun 2016 #46
MOM has too many political blunders to his name. Kang Colby Jun 2016 #50
I notice all of your choices are basically moderate to conservative Dems. PragmaticLiberal Jun 2016 #57
We can agree to disagree. Kang Colby Jun 2016 #58
Baucus?? Yikes!! Are you serious?! RufusTFirefly Jun 2016 #54
Yes, Baucus was a great legislator and has been a fine diplomat for Obama. n/t Kang Colby Jun 2016 #55
REALLY! elleng Jun 2016 #56
I'd love that! lunamagica Jun 2016 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife Jun 2016 #48
I would very much love this. Raine1967 Jun 2016 #49
meh MFM008 Jun 2016 #51
I'm rooting for Elizabeth Warren as VP and I never thought I'd say that a few months ago. Metric System Jun 2016 #52
 

Silver_Witch

(1,820 posts)
1. Fuck I might actually vote for that combination!
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:55 AM
Jun 2016

I voted for Bernie in the California primary and would not consider voting for Hillary under most circumstances this might be the one exception!

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
3. He would be an excellent choice.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:57 AM
Jun 2016

I really have hopes that he will be heading up the DNC after the GE. The platform he ran on could be copied for our party platform. It's that good.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
25. Thanks for the info
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:21 AM
Jun 2016

I wonder if he will hit the campaign trail on behalf of whoever gets the Democratic Party nomination.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
9. he's certainly very, very qualified in every way possible
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:00 AM
Jun 2016

question is how much he adds to the general election effort

Peacetrain

(22,874 posts)
12. VP choice is who can best back up the President
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:06 AM
Jun 2016

and stand in for influence on policies.. I know a lot of people think the VP should be the attack dog... but as Democrats we have a LOT of attack dogs for our nominee.. but O'Malley is the younger generation..the next group coming up for executive office.. and his environmental policies are amazing.. because they not only push us forward on saving the environment but also uses these polices to create new jobs.. as he used say about Iowa where I am from.. those wind turbines going down the highway are great paying jobs also

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
14. O'Malley for me is someone who when I look at the rational arguments
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:09 AM
Jun 2016

for him he seems like a slam dunk.

But then he just fizzled with voters.

True that Biden in 2008 also tanked badly in primary voting, but he also stood out in debates that included 6+ candidates in a way that O'Malley couldn't in debates featuring only 3 candidates.

I wish I could come up with a more coherent argument as to why I'm only receptive instead of enthusiastic about him as an option.

Peacetrain

(22,874 posts)
16. You know.. I think he will do just fine geek t..
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:13 AM
Jun 2016

but I know what you are talking about.. I think he will do good though

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
22. he's one person I know will do very well at whatever he does.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:18 AM
Jun 2016

even though I'm more than a bit jealous of those abs.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
33. And that's the rub. We don't need help in the mid-Atlantic.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:36 AM
Jun 2016

Which is an absolute shame, because I would walk through fire for that guy.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
36. to play Devil's Advocate, neither did Obama when he chose Biden.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:46 AM
Jun 2016

But Biden did complement Obama in a lot of ways (old Washington hand, good attack dog, working class white guy personality).

Imo, what Clinton needs is someone to transition to the next generation, either in demographics (someone like Castro, not sold on him myself though) or in terms of populist leftism (Elizabeth Warren)

and they should add an excitement factor. Clinton's strength is substance over style, but even the best steak benefits from some added sizzle

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
37. By that argument I think O'Malley is a front runner
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:48 AM
Jun 2016

Though from what I know of Clinton she would pick Kaine, who is roughly equivalent but more to her Weltanschauung.

Which, again, would be a shame.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
39. Not enthused about Kaine either, want to keep him in the Senate.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:55 AM
Jun 2016

I'm more and more liking the idea of two women on the ticket.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
40. My VP pick for Sanders was Landrieu
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:02 PM
Jun 2016

I actually think that would have been a killer combo.

I don't think Clinton could get away with that, though.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
41. My wife was never an O'Malley fan, but she did say
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:03 PM
Jun 2016

"I wouldn't leave me alone around him. That's all I'm saying."

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
26. I was for Sanders before I was for OMalley, before I was for Clinton. Lol. I use the primary to
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:22 AM
Jun 2016

actually get to know and research the candidates.

The ONLY thing that really bothers me on OMalley is his speeches. I think he is one of the worst in giving speeches. I kept expecting him to get better with time. I never heard him get better. And only on the delivery. I had to make myself let go of the delivery to hear what he was saying. When I was able to do that, I could listen. But.... that is the one issue, that I think he really needs to work on. Might be something he can't fix. it is so insignificant to what he can do though. I wonder if people can allow that. Vp might not matter.

But, I think that was really one of the reasons he didn't get traction. He did everything right.

How did you feel with his speaking ability? Again, delivery only. It might just be me, so curious.

Peacetrain

(22,874 posts)
28. I have met the Gov.. listened to him speak so many times
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:25 AM
Jun 2016

and he is good... but the thing that impresses me most are his policy ideas.. and the President can speak for themselves.. I am looking for a good policy person on the environment..

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
30. And that is true. Policy, .... really,
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:28 AM
Jun 2016

If I am remembering, he was right up there or better than Clinton. And that is what I really like about Clinton, are her policies.

Peacetrain

(22,874 posts)
32. Sea I know I have told this one so many times people probably
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:35 AM
Jun 2016

close their eyes when they see me post ...but when he talks about the environment.. itis not only saving the planet.. because lets just be honest.. if we do not take care of the planet..everything else it for nothing if we do not have potable water and breathable air and soil that is not depleted.. but he would say.. "see those turbines on flatbed trucks going down the highway..those are good paying jobs" it is a totally different approach.. having a safe environment is good for economic growth

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
35. My oldest. Knee deep in academia. His number one issue is the environment. Mine, people.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:40 AM
Jun 2016

We are back and forth on the immediacy of people now and the future in environment. It is an interesting conversation, always. But yes, this was the point I thought OMalley might replace Sanders in the youth vote and get the momentum. Her is the sad about this though. OMalley was too smart and thorough and did his homework, knew what he was talking about, not just giving comforting sound bites. Our youth was unwilling to focus and listen, think and process. They went for easy, loud, harsh sound bites. They had an opportunity with OMalley. I really thought he could easily take the youths vote. Smart young people.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
27. I think he'd be amazing as VP, and would be a strong candidate to run next.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:22 AM
Jun 2016

Seriously, he's the best Democratic candidate of my lifetime (including even Obama). Anything that keeps him front-ticket I support.

 

Kang Colby

(1,941 posts)
44. No way. MOM brings nothing to the table.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:04 PM
Jun 2016

He couldn't even crack what, 1% of the vote early in the primary? He also has some serious issues in his background...he was known for being a brutal mayor that incarcerated tens of thousands of black folks in Baltimore. He also championed a highly unpopular "rain tax" that hurt low and middle income folks.

He brings nothing to the table other than liability. I'd like to see Max Baucus step into the VP slot.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
46. O'Malley brings a lot of executive experience. Baucus would be a horrible choice.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 02:58 PM
Jun 2016

The voters seem to want executive experience -- if a candidate hasn't been President or Vice President, he or she had better be a current or former Governor. In the last half-century, the only time someone with none of those credentials won was in 2008 -- when both major-party candidates were Senators with no executive experience, so this factor couldn't manifest. There are no recent elections featuring a candidate with experience running a Cabinet department (Clinton) or a small city (Sanders), so it's hard to say how well either of those would work. O'Malley ran a big city and then a state.

Baucus has always been a legislator, except for his current gig as an ambassador, and Clinton surely doesn't need a boost in foreign-policy credentials. In addition, he'd be 75 on Inauguration Day. As others have pointed out in this thread, O'Malley, who's more than 20 years younger than Baucus, represents the next generation of Democratic leaders. Anyone who's been in public life a while will have what some people regard as "some serious issues"; Baucus has many right-wing votes on his record.

 

Kang Colby

(1,941 posts)
50. MOM has too many political blunders to his name.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 05:06 PM
Jun 2016

His record will never stand up to scrutiny. Perhaps Jon Tester or Heidi Heitkamp would make better VP choices for Clinton then.

PragmaticLiberal

(904 posts)
57. I notice all of your choices are basically moderate to conservative Dems.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 05:30 PM
Jun 2016

I think Clinton would be better off with a left of center/left running mate.

 

Kang Colby

(1,941 posts)
58. We can agree to disagree.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 05:34 PM
Jun 2016

Hillary is a very liberal candidate in my opinion, I think someone more moderate would help to balance her presidency.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
54. Baucus?? Yikes!! Are you serious?!
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 05:16 PM
Jun 2016

Chief apologist for the Insurance Industrial Complex.

Baucus's Raucous Caucus: Doctors, Nurses and Activists Arrested Again for Protesting Exclusion of Single-Payer Advocates at Senate Hearing on Healthcare

Successfully squelched all discussion of single-payer until one tenacious Senator on the committee insisted that single-payer advocates be given a chance to state their case.

Who was that tenacious Senator?

I'll give you a hint: He's running for President.

Response to Peacetrain (Original post)

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
49. I would very much love this.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 03:07 PM
Jun 2016

Castro said beck in May that the VP is no way.

As much of an O'MAlley supporter that I still am, I really did believe it would be Castro. Doesn't look like that is going to happen.

You have now revived my hopes of him as a VP. He's a good man, and anyone who has read anything in the O'MAlley group would know why. They would also have a better understanding of his time in office.

HE's a good man and a good politician.



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