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Henhouse

(646 posts)
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:03 AM Jun 2016

Conflict of interest: Sanders assails Clinton over Foundation



Conflict of interest: Sanders assails Clinton over Foundation

Bernie Sanders has largely been silent in the debate about the Clinton Foundation’s ties to foreign governments – including some with poor human rights records. But in the final week of the primary season against Hillary Clinton, the Vermont senator finally unleashed a few jabs on the issue.

“If you asked me about the Clinton Foundation, do I have a problem when a sitting secretary of state and a foundation run by her husband collects many millions of dollars from foreign governments, governments which are dictatorships … yeah I do,” Sanders said in an interview Sunday morning on CNN’s “State of the Union.”


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Conflict of interest: Sanders assails Clinton over Foundation (Original Post) Henhouse Jun 2016 OP
Charity Watch give Clinton Foundation an A rating. Henhouse Jun 2016 #1
Gimme Tax Shelter Octafish Jun 2016 #4
Enough said... Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #22
Seems bizarre to me that doing charible work itself instead of farming out to others is "atypical." Lord Magus Jun 2016 #38
talking point nt grasswire Jun 2016 #48
No, reality. -nt- Lord Magus Jun 2016 #57
+1 Duval Jun 2016 #151
Charity Watch's ratings are based on very specific Cal Carpenter Jun 2016 #12
odd enid602 Jun 2016 #81
very considerable one, yet take a look at Haiti larkrake Jun 2016 #94
I think Sanders, like me Cal Carpenter Jun 2016 #112
justice enid602 Jun 2016 #149
and can be bought, its not a govt agency larkrake Jun 2016 #91
A for welcoming money from dictatorships? imagine2015 Jun 2016 #30
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #35
...with human rights violations! grasswire Jun 2016 #49
To do good work around the world. Bernie hates charities and is on record as being against them... Walk away Jun 2016 #58
Yes, he said "I don't believe in charities" pandr32 Jun 2016 #79
he did give to charity according to the tax return he released larkrake Jun 2016 #82
One year....I am guessing that's one of the many reasons he is hiding his returns... Walk away Jun 2016 #104
one is enough for someone who doesnt invest or make millions, no one in DC calls him corrupt larkrake Jun 2016 #144
Is one enough for the man who just illegally spent $600,000.00 on a trip to stalk the Pope... Walk away Jun 2016 #148
So he claimed it pandr32 Jun 2016 #122
well thats an outright lie, look at his tax return larkrake Jun 2016 #98
"We are the world", remember. Dictatorships have people to care for too. Jitter65 Jun 2016 #155
It's a great way to do good and make a buck at the same time. Ask Frank Giustra and George W Bush. Octafish Jun 2016 #2
You go, Octafish! snot Jun 2016 #54
It's over. Give up the attacks. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #3
Are you as sad as I am to see him to see him reduced to these petty attacks? DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #6
How the mighty have fallen... Henhouse Jun 2016 #19
Interesting point. His internals must be dismal. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #20
"...desperate last ditch effort....", indeed. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #25
I guess parachuting in to a rally was a bit to risky...n/t Henhouse Jun 2016 #28
The Clinton Foundation is under investigation. panader0 Jun 2016 #137
There is no proof the FBI is investigating the Clinton Foundation DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #138
What You Consider Attacks Are Necessary IF There Is To Be ANY Semblance Of DEMOCRACY! TRUTH CorporatistNation Jun 2016 #11
Lying is OK. Nixon did it. reddread Jun 2016 #33
bernie does it too puffy socks Jun 2016 #67
Foreign Sources? Do tell. Links, help. That's a new one for me. libdem4life Jun 2016 #69
here you go puffy socks Jun 2016 #76
i don't see a source. I know there have been problems with campaign libdem4life Jun 2016 #83
sorry puffy socks Jun 2016 #95
No I really didn't know that. However, link notwithstanding, libdem4life Jun 2016 #99
You may not care about sources.. choie Jun 2016 #107
Now how did I suspect that? Thanks for the added info. libdem4life Jun 2016 #115
I have not heard a lie from his lips, please inform me of one larkrake Jun 2016 #100
Take out the ear plugs puffy socks Jun 2016 #126
I dont see a single lie here. retired politicians are still politicians-and Hill wants to return larkrake Jun 2016 #140
of course you dont puffy socks Jun 2016 #145
Senator Sanders liberal from boston Jun 2016 #143
thank you liberal larkrake Jun 2016 #146
What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Ya know. libdem4life Jun 2016 #73
He needs to be introduced to a comb KingFlorez Jun 2016 #5
She needs to be introduced to a lie detector. JudyM Jun 2016 #16
See VIDEO Above! CorporatistNation Jun 2016 #18
! nc4bo Jun 2016 #56
When you are balding your hair looks nicer if you keep it short. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #23
Can you imagine if we were criticizing Hillarys hair and appearance? JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #62
You can criticize her appearance if you want. You are free to speak freely. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #65
Point is it would be called sexist. Your old man has nothing to do with it. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #84
And him and I would defend your right to be a sexist. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #87
But it isn't sexist to make fun of an older man for being balding and having unkempt hair? JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #97
No Haveadream Jun 2016 #154
That's one thing I remember...it was ugly...those who critized...as it libdem4life Jun 2016 #68
I have a feeling the Foundation is going to be in the news quite a bit now. Skink Jun 2016 #7
FOUNDATION "NEWS" AND INSIGHTS IS FORTHCOMING I BELIEVE... IT WILL BE INCREASINGLY... CorporatistNation Jun 2016 #14
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #44
Assault the font so as to miss the message. nc4bo Jun 2016 #59
There was no message in the post to which I replied. Only hyperbolic shouting. randome Jun 2016 #60
so what? larkrake Jun 2016 #101
Yes, let them compare the Clinton Foundation TexasTowelie Jun 2016 #55
Republicans are expected to be scoundrels, Democrats are expected to be better than that. nc4bo Jun 2016 #61
Two wrongs dont make a right larkrake Jun 2016 #102
Do you think that Trump is going to attack the Clinton Foundation TexasTowelie Jun 2016 #116
Yes he will, the madman thinks he is invincible- dont credit him with common sense larkrake Jun 2016 #120
Then he is playing with fire TexasTowelie Jun 2016 #128
Donald is a master at planting seeds of doubt and so far she has had no defence larkrake Jun 2016 #130
and I suspect that Sanders is VERY aware of the .. grasswire Jun 2016 #52
It's not a review. KULawHawk Jun 2016 #66
Yeah, Hillary tried that one and got it slapped down post haste libdem4life Jun 2016 #74
yes, her silence on the subject is very telling, but the Repugs have real meat here and will use it larkrake Jun 2016 #89
Kickin' Faux pas Jun 2016 #8
He is regurgitating lines from "clinton cash" boston bean Jun 2016 #9
Where can I find information about this debunking? I don't have the book libdem4life Jun 2016 #75
Really? who debunked it? larkrake Jun 2016 #103
If it was "much debunked" surely there is one credible source, libdem4life Jun 2016 #129
The author had to remove many false accusations for the Kindle edition. boston bean Jun 2016 #139
Kindle reminds me of book banners, they just cannot tolerate disturbing truths larkrake Jun 2016 #141
Yeah, I can tell you are interested in the truth. boston bean Jun 2016 #142
"Assails" is a bit of a strong term... HerbChestnut Jun 2016 #10
they have resorted to exaggerating everything and they have to feel a little larkrake Jun 2016 #105
Way to go Bernie, attack a great philanthropic org for political gain. JERK nt BootinUp Jun 2016 #13
The Charity That Engages In Money Laundering... The Money Laudering Operation That Occassionally CorporatistNation Jun 2016 #17
TRANSPARENCY. You wouldn't know about the contributors unless CLINTON FOUNDATION released it. BootinUp Jun 2016 #34
Well, there was this one...from a Canadian Money Repurposing source... libdem4life Jun 2016 #78
More Fox News smears getting repeated on DU. Sickening. -nt- Lord Magus Jun 2016 #36
He's going to attack ... Tortmaster Jun 2016 #32
The Carter derision has already been done. Decades ago. libdem4life Jun 2016 #93
HA! take foot from mouth larkrake Jun 2016 #106
See, gutter. Castro, Russia? Using where they get funds to help people as an attack. seabeyond Jun 2016 #15
Desperation is an ugly thing. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #21
You hit the nail on the head underthematrix Jun 2016 #26
So why the constant derision, attacks, hating on "the loser"? libdem4life Jun 2016 #96
The Foundation will prove to be very dangerous waters for Hillary Arazi Jun 2016 #24
Wash, rinse, repeat..... Henhouse Jun 2016 #31
Nah, FBI investigators aren't RW puppets. Arazi Jun 2016 #39
This involves foreign donators, so would involve the CIA, and FBI, and Justice system larkrake Jun 2016 #136
Oh well, that settles it. Oh, they were fabulously wealthy by that time. libdem4life Jun 2016 #71
follow the money, Im sure Donna is just getting a salary larkrake Jun 2016 #108
Yes, it was thought so at the beginning and has proven to be so. libdem4life Jun 2016 #41
I didn't entirely get it until I read Paul Thompson's timeline. Arazi Jun 2016 #47
Inconvenient facts. Got to keep them hidden and out of the hands libdem4life Jun 2016 #64
It all stinks and there is a cover-up larkrake Jun 2016 #127
Im afraid you are absolutely right larkrake Jun 2016 #109
Pathetic and desperate. sufrommich Jun 2016 #27
Is that pic from this weekend? If so, he's looking more and more Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #29
Definitely not a Presidential look. eom BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #40
Truer words were never typed. Octafish Jun 2016 #46
I knew that I would regret venturing BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #51
Weird how it's OK to make fun of one person for his looks... Octafish Jun 2016 #85
Well, perhaps you could elucidate on what a "presidential type" looks like? libdem4life Jun 2016 #90
Camera does not lie, right. Octafish Jun 2016 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author emulatorloo Jun 2016 #80
At best it's a huge conflict of interest. At best. Scuba Jun 2016 #37
It isn't her charity, despite it sharing her surname. It is a public charity. randome Jun 2016 #43
Bwahaaaahaaaaaaaaa. Scuba Jun 2016 #50
"Clinton Cash" -soon to be a major motion picture by Alex Jones and Peter Schweizer! randome Jun 2016 #53
Any comment on the FACTS or are you just going to attack the source? Scuba Jun 2016 #131
I'd love to see it larkrake Jun 2016 #147
that is very naive of you, and laughable larkrake Jun 2016 #110
Chelsea Clinton talks about TRANSPARENCY policies of Clinton Foundation BootinUp Jun 2016 #42
I heart Chelsea...I trust her at the helm of the Clinton Foundation...nt Henhouse Jun 2016 #63
Well then, let's hope she can keep a better rein on her husband. libdem4life Jun 2016 #113
Should Bernie keep a better rein on his wife....? Henhouse Jun 2016 #117
She ran a start up business. 80% of them fail. If you knew about libdem4life Jun 2016 #125
Chelsea doesn't care about money......She said so ! n/t MichMan Jun 2016 #72
yet she married a vulture capitalist-duh larkrake Jun 2016 #111
To carry on two shady family histories. Apple...meet ground. libdem4life Jun 2016 #121
More spaghetti thrown at the wall WhiteTara Jun 2016 #70
Yup La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #77
Says the guy who only gives 4% of his income to charity. SunSeeker Jun 2016 #86
well, he has very little income. I give $500 a year, does that make me evil? larkrake Jun 2016 #114
Little income....did you see the $13,000 a night hotel room he stayed in on his Roman holiday. Henhouse Jun 2016 #119
I've gone to club med and couldnt afford it. What has that to do with opinions on charity? larkrake Jun 2016 #123
He does not have "very little income," his adjusted 2014 income was over $200k. SunSeeker Jun 2016 #152
wow, thats a fortune in Dc life--not larkrake Jun 2016 #156
He owns a home in DC and several properties in Vermont. SunSeeker Jun 2016 #157
investments are just smart to leave to his kids I'm surprised he has money for charities larkrake Jun 2016 #158
Sanders only has one biological child... SunSeeker Jun 2016 #159
with kids larkrake Jun 2016 #160
LOL, "largely silent" my foot. He LAUNCHED his campaign the same day Clinton Cash ucrdem Jun 2016 #88
I've seen many Hill pics more frightening larkrake Jun 2016 #124
I'm afraid the FBI agrees with the "very troubling" aspect. libdem4life Jun 2016 #132
RW noise machine leaks RW noise. Rinse and repeat. ucrdem Jun 2016 #133
talking point nt grasswire Jun 2016 #134
Remember when Hillary promised Obama she would be transparent about the Clinton Foundation while she 2cannan Jun 2016 #92
bad decisions are her habit larkrake Jun 2016 #118
plus they set up another charity in Canada.. grasswire Jun 2016 #135
And I do, too. Duval Jun 2016 #150
her next scandal eom noiretextatique Jun 2016 #153

Henhouse

(646 posts)
1. Charity Watch give Clinton Foundation an A rating.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:06 AM
Jun 2016


Bill, Hillary & Chelsea Clinton Foundation
1271 Avenue of the Americas
42nd Floor
New York, NY 10020
www.clintonfoundation.org
Tax Status: 501(c)3

RATING: A

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
4. Gimme Tax Shelter
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:08 AM
Jun 2016

How Charity Navigator puts it:

Why isn't this organization rated?

We had previously evaluated this organization, but have since determined that this charity's atypical business model can not be accurately captured in our current rating methodology. Our removal of The Clinton Foundation from our site is neither a condemnation nor an endorsement of this charity. We reserve the right to reinstate a rating for The Clinton Foundation as soon as we identify a rating methodology that appropriately captures its business model.

What does it mean that this organization isn’t rated?

It simply means that the organization doesn't meet our criteria. A lack of a rating does not indicate a positive or negative assessment by Charity Navigator.

http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.profile&ein=311580204#.V0ByAvkrK00


 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
22. Enough said...
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:29 AM
Jun 2016
Our removal of The Clinton Foundation from our site is neither a condemnation nor an endorsement of this charity.

A lack of a rating does not indicate a positive or negative assessment by Charity Navigator.

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
12. Charity Watch's ratings are based on very specific
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:16 AM
Jun 2016

and mostly budget-oriented information.

They are not a statement on anything else - certainly not on the points Sanders or others have brought up in terms of conflict of interest and concerns about influence in US politics.

enid602

(8,593 posts)
81. odd
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:50 PM
Jun 2016

Seems odd that he who has not set up a charitable foundation (and does not seem to hold charity in high regard) is criticizing one whose family has set up such a considerable one.

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
112. I think Sanders, like me
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:26 PM
Jun 2016

agrees with these wise thinkers:

It is justice, not charity, that is wanting in the world. -- Mary Wollstonecraft

Overcoming poverty is not a task of charity, it is an act of justice. -- Nelson Mandela

In practical terms, I appreciate the day-to-day work done by many charities, particularly those which address root causes to the extent they legally can. I also support several front-line local organizations in various ways. In fact, my longest-held job was at a hunger relief organization. I can't speak for Sanders but even his tax returns show significant donations to charities. I'm no Bernie worshipper, for the record.

None of that has anything to do with most international NGOs including the Clinton Foundation. Criticism of the real interests of the Clinton Foundation is important with or without Bernie, and with or without this election cycle, but given the likelihood of Clinton winning the WH, they are all the more important.

What is odd is how so many people who seem to pay a lot of attention to politics are completely naive when it comes to the nature of these sorts of organizations which are quite clearly not the same as most 'charities' in the colloquial or local sense. In other words, to conflate an organization like the Clinton Foundation with, say, a Children's Hospital or a food pantry, is absurd.

But I have to believe this is willful ignorance, which means there's no point in wasting my time trying to explain it any further.

enid602

(8,593 posts)
149. justice
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 02:49 PM
Jun 2016

You can have all the justice you want in all countries, but that does very little to alleviate the burdens of the poorest in very poor countries. Would they be better off without international foundations, such as those of the Clinton Family or Bill and Melinda Gates?

Response to imagine2015 (Reply #30)

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
58. To do good work around the world. Bernie hates charities and is on record as being against them...
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:08 PM
Jun 2016

Bernie "Let the eat Cake" Sanders has never given a penny to any charity that we know of. Nothing! He makes Trump look human!

pandr32

(11,548 posts)
79. Yes, he said "I don't believe in charities"
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:48 PM
Jun 2016

Now let's see if he claims them on all the tax returns he never released.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
104. One year....I am guessing that's one of the many reasons he is hiding his returns...
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:18 PM
Jun 2016

Why else would he be hiding them????? Maybe you can guess what he's hiding if it isn't that. I'd be interested.

 

larkrake

(1,674 posts)
144. one is enough for someone who doesnt invest or make millions, no one in DC calls him corrupt
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 02:28 PM
Jun 2016

and they would know

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
148. Is one enough for the man who just illegally spent $600,000.00 on a trip to stalk the Pope...
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 02:49 PM
Jun 2016

for himself and 10 family members?????? Let's hope his net worth really is a half a million.....he going to need it! The FEC will make him pay every penny.

pandr32

(11,548 posts)
122. So he claimed it
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:36 PM
Jun 2016

Hmmmm...it is an option, so whether he actually gave or not--he believes in the charitable deduction

 

larkrake

(1,674 posts)
98. well thats an outright lie, look at his tax return
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:08 PM
Jun 2016

he no doubt disparages the money laundering charities and I am in complete agreement with him. Like TV evangelists, they are crooks.

 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
155. "We are the world", remember. Dictatorships have people to care for too.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 04:00 PM
Jun 2016

And since when is charity contribution a bad thing eve for tax purposes? millions of taxpayers use charitable giving as a tax writeoff. Complain more about the billions taken in in religious congregations all over the country and not a dime given to taking care of people in need.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
2. It's a great way to do good and make a buck at the same time. Ask Frank Giustra and George W Bush.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:07 AM
Jun 2016

From his association with a former president, Frank got a great deal in Kazakhstan:

After Mining Deal, Financier Donated to Clinton

By JO BECKER and DON VAN NATTA Jr.
The New York Times, JAN. 31, 2008

EXCERPT...

Upon landing on the first stop of a three-country philanthropic tour, the two men were whisked off to share a sumptuous midnight banquet with Kazakhstan’s president, Nursultan A. Nazarbayev, whose 19-year stranglehold on the country has all but quashed political dissent.

Mr. Nazarbayev walked away from the table with a propaganda coup, after Mr. Clinton expressed enthusiastic support for the Kazakh leader’s bid to head an international organization that monitors elections and supports democracy. Mr. Clinton’s public declaration undercut both American foreign policy and sharp criticism of Kazakhstan’s poor human rights record by, among others, Mr. Clinton’s wife, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York.

Within two days, corporate records show that Mr. Giustra also came up a winner when his company signed preliminary agreements giving it the right to buy into three uranium projects controlled by Kazakhstan’s state-owned uranium agency, Kazatomprom.

The monster deal stunned the mining industry, turning an unknown shell company into one of the world’s largest uranium producers in a transaction ultimately worth tens of millions of dollars to Mr. Giustra, analysts said.

SNIP...

Mr. Giustra foresaw a bull market in gold and began investing in mines in Argentina, Australia and Mexico. He turned a $20 million shell company into a powerhouse that, after a $2.4 billion merger with Goldcorp Inc., became Canada’s second-largest gold company.

CONTINUED...

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/31/us/politics/31donor.html


From his association with a future president, George got a great deal in Bahrain.



Harken Energy And Insider Trading

by Stephen Pizzo
Mother Jones, September / October 1992

EXCERPT...

Harken Energy was formed in l973 by two oilmen who would benefit from a successful covert effort to destabilize Australia's Labor Party government (which had attempted to shut out foreign oil exploration). A decade later, Harken was sold to a new investment group headed by New York attorney Alan G. Quasha, a partner in the firm of Quasha, Wessely & Schneider. Quasha's father, a powerful attorney in the Philippines, had been a staunch supporter of then-president Ferdinand Marcos. William Quasha had also given legal advice to two top officials of the notorious Nugan Hand Bank in Australia, a CIA operation.

After the sale of Harken Energy in 1983, Alan Quasha became a director and chairman of the board. Under Quasha, Harken suddenly absorbed Junior's struggling Spectrum 7 in 1986. The merger immediately opened a financial horn of plenty and reversed Junior's fortunes. But like his brother Jeb, Junior seemed unconcerned about the characters who were becoming his benefactors. Harken's $25 million stock offering in 1987, for example, was underwritten by a Little Rock, Arkansas, brokerage house, Stephens, Inc., which placed the Harken stock offering with the London subsidiary of Union Bank -- a bank that had surfaced in the scandal that resulted in the downfall of the Australian Labor government in 1976 and, later, in the Nugan Hand Bank scandal. (It was also Union Bank, according to congressional hearings on international money laundering, that helped the now-notorious Bank of Credit and Commerce International skirt Panamanian money-laundering laws by flying cash out of the country in private jets, and that was used by Ferdinand Marcos to stash 325 tons of Philippine gold around the world.)

SNIP...

Suddenly, in January 1990, Harken Energy became the talk of the Texas oil industry. The company with no offshore-oil-drilling experience beat out a more-established international conglomerate, Amoco, in bagging the exclusive contract to drill in a promising new offshore oil field for the Persian Gulf nation of Bahrain. The deal had been arranged for Harken by two former Stephens, Inc., brokers. A company insider claims the president's son did not initiate the deal -- but feels that his presence in the firm helped with the Bahrainis. "Hell, that's why he's on the damn board," the insider says. "...You say, 'By the way, the president's son sits on our board.' You use that. There's nothing wrong with that."

Junior has told acquaintances conflicting stories about his own involvement in the deal. He first claimed that he had "recused" himself from the deal; "George said he left the room when Bahrain was being discussed 'because we can't even have the appearance of having anything to do with the government.' He was into a big rant about how unfair it was to be the president's son. He said, 'I was so scrupulous I was never in the room when it was discussed.'"

Junior alternately claimed, to reporters for the Wall Street Journal and D Magazine, that he had opposed the arrangement. But the company insider says, to the contrary, that Junior was excited about the Bahrain deal. "Like any member of the board, he was thrilled," the associate says. "His attitude was, 'Holy shit, what a great deal!'"

CONTINUED...

http://www.georgewalkerbush.net/harkenenergyandinsidertrading.htm



Amazing how much good and money one can make at the same time.

Henhouse

(646 posts)
19. How the mighty have fallen...
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:23 AM
Jun 2016

Really makes me wonder what the Sanders' campaign internal polling looks like. Seems like a desperate last ditch effort....

panader0

(25,816 posts)
137. The Clinton Foundation is under investigation.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 02:04 PM
Jun 2016

Does the FBI work for Bernie? Does the FBI do "petty attacks"?
I am unable to understand how HRC supporters can just wave all of this off.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,708 posts)
138. There is no proof the FBI is investigating the Clinton Foundation
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 02:06 PM
Jun 2016

There is no proof the FBI is investigating the Clinton Foundation outside the deranged minds of anti-Clinton fantasists.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
11. What You Consider Attacks Are Necessary IF There Is To Be ANY Semblance Of DEMOCRACY! TRUTH
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:14 AM
Jun 2016
IS FAIR AND PROPER!

THE SHENANIGANS AND HIDING OF TRUTH TO PROTECT THE GIRL FROM WALL STREET IS NOT... NO MORE FIBBS!

e.g., MSNBC To the deniers... Watch THIS Video... It is not comforting to think that she may well be the Democratic Nominee...

Hillary really betrayed Andrea Mitchell... The entire context of this report was of a solemn nature... A Funeral so to speak...

Andrea Mitchell "I do not see this report as ...ANYTHING BUT... DEVASTATING!"

Chuck Todd "After this I don't think that she could get confirmed for Attorney General!"

Lots of FIBBING by Hillary here.. for more than a year!

 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
67. bernie does it too
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:29 PM
Jun 2016

but all is forgiven from the "savior" by the Berners
andf how much of his campaign funds are from foreign sources? strange how that doesnt bother him.
FEC cant get the ol codger to reply.
oh and the family vacay to Rome
Bernard is about as honest as ...

 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
76. here you go
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:45 PM
Jun 2016

"As more and more states vote, voters deserve to know, definitively, whether Bernie Sanders is accepting illegal campaign donations from foreign nationals, and just what is keeping them from implementing a technologically simple check on who's donating how much money.

Since October of 2015 to the end of January, the FEC counted a total of 665 potentially illegal foreign donations to the Sanders campaign, and hundreds of donors who have exceeded their contribution limits. The FEC noted more foreign contributions in just the month of January than in the previous three months combined, and has flagged over 3,500 contributions as over-limit. Through the end of December alone, the Sanders campaign had collected more than $23 million in donations without sourcing them or certifying that those came from donors whose aggregate total giving is below $200."



I''ll be waiting for the dismissal of source, or minimizing the importance when Sanders breaks laws, or justification of Sanders campaign finance incompetence because there are just too many contributions.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
83. i don't see a source. I know there have been problems with campaign
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:55 PM
Jun 2016

money that hopefully they are remedying. I also think he got in over his head with such public voting support in so little (comparatively speaking) time. But, I don't dismiss facts...even if they are inconvenient. I'll await the link, however.

And I'm sure the same tenacity will be applied to discover flaws in the Experienced Candidate who knows very well what she's doing.

Both of these situations need close supervision, now that so much money is needed to run a democratic election...small d.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
99. No I really didn't know that. However, link notwithstanding,
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:10 PM
Jun 2016

is this not a blog?

I know these potential partisan sources are frowned upon, actually made fun of on my side of things. So, I'm surprised to see them touted as truth.

That is all.

choie

(4,107 posts)
107. You may not care about sources..
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:20 PM
Jun 2016

but it's important to know where allegations are coming from. In this case, People's View is a third way, Hillary shilling blog, and has all the credibility of "correct the record" and other such Brockian blather.

 

larkrake

(1,674 posts)
100. I have not heard a lie from his lips, please inform me of one
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:12 PM
Jun 2016

he doesnt take corporate donations, just unions, and I cant think of foreign entities right off hand- maybe the vatican?

 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
126. Take out the ear plugs
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:40 PM
Jun 2016

He took corporate donations for every election
Microsoft , Apple, Amazon, Boeing, Intel, At&T
https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cycle=Career&cid=n00000528

Bernie's PAC donations
https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/pacs.php?cycle=Career&cid=n00000528&type=I

lied about elections being rigged
lied about endorsements, lied about HC saying he wasn't qualified to be president.
lied about polls showing he's the only candidate that can beat Trump in the GE
lied about Wall Street tax covering the costs of free college.
lied about NAFTA (which HC had nothing to do with) costing 800,000 jobs
lied about defense budget claiming less than 10% actually goes toward fightin terrorism
lied about helping to write the ACA
lied about stealing info from the DNC computer
lied about the largest low wage employer being the government , not mcds or Walmart

When Stephanopoulos asked whether he thought Clinton has ignored the suffering of the Palestinian people, Sanders reiterated that her AIPAC speech had "one line on the Palestinian people."

Bernie:
"Wall Street banks shower Washington politicians with campaign contributions and speaking fees," the ad says. "And what do they get for it? A rigged economy, tax breaks and bailouts, all held in place by a corrupt campaign finance system. And while Washington politicians are paid over $200,000 an hour for speeches, they oppose raising the living wage to $15 an hour. $200,000 an hour for them, but not even 15 bucks an hour for all Americans. Enough is enough."

Senators and representatives have been prohibited from accepting money for speeches since 1991. Before then, members of Congress would often accept speaking fees from the industries they oversaw, which critics characterized as a form of bribery.
And it's not just members of Congress. In the House, for example, even senior staff can't be paid for speeches, appearances or writing an article. Junior staff also can't do it if the topic relates to their official duties.


But once a person leaves government service, those rules no longer apply, and they're free to charge for speeches.

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/bernie-s/statements/byruling/false/




oh and I posted the article in this thread and you can look up on the FEC site about the illegal and foreign donations he refuses to answer for

 

larkrake

(1,674 posts)
140. I dont see a single lie here. retired politicians are still politicians-and Hill wants to return
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 02:17 PM
Jun 2016

I think Scalia was paid for a speech too, Lord knows he got alot of perks. Is a Supreme not a politician? He was when he gave W the presidency. You seem to think DC laws are black and white

 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
145. of course you dont
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 02:30 PM
Jun 2016

please show me the endorsement from the Valley News with the word "endorse"


"But a campaign ad titled "Endorsed," might have given people a different impression.

The ad, which was first posted online Wednesday Feb. 3, touts endorsements from unions, an environmental group and The Nation magazine.

"From postal workers to nurses, he’s been endorsed for real change," a narrator says in the ad.

The narrator goes on to quote editorials from two New Hampshire newspapers, The Telegraph, of Nashua, and the Valley News, which covers both Vermont and New Hampshire from West Lebanon, N.H."



Like most of Sanders supporters at this point , you see what you wish to see and disregard the rest..la la la.

143. Senator Sanders
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 02:27 PM
Jun 2016

Because of Citizens United we do not know where most of Hillary's donations, Super Pacs, etc., are comlng from.

Sanders Candidacy Has Evolved Into an Inspiring World-Changing Success


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/miles-mogulescu/-sanders-candidacy-has-ev_b_10215786.html


DemocratSinceBirth

(99,708 posts)
23. When you are balding your hair looks nicer if you keep it short.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:30 AM
Jun 2016

Longer hair just accentuates the balding.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,708 posts)
65. You can criticize her appearance if you want. You are free to speak freely.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:22 PM
Jun 2016

My old man was blinded in one eye from shrapnel and contacted malaria during the Battle of El-Alamein to uphold that fundamental principle.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,708 posts)
87. And him and I would defend your right to be a sexist.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:00 PM
Jun 2016

I disapprove of a person being a sexist, but I will defend to the death his or her right to be one.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
97. But it isn't sexist to make fun of an older man for being balding and having unkempt hair?
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:07 PM
Jun 2016

So how is it sexist to do so for a woman? Either both are unacceptable (my preference) or both acceptable. It isn't sexism if both are being maligned.

Haveadream

(1,630 posts)
154. No
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 03:55 PM
Jun 2016

97. But it isn't sexist to make fun of an older man for being balding and having unkempt hair?
.

But it is ageist.

Also, a "both are acceptable or unacceptable" rule doesn't usually work when considering most isms because what is a stereotypical insult for one group frequently isn't the case for another. Certain descriptors of marginalized groups are problematic for a reason. Using them in reference to someone outside that group might be uncomplimentary but rarely carries the weight of history and all the offensive implications.

Example: the word, "radical". When used to describe a white man, it is perhaps a compliment, perhaps not. When used as a descriptor for a Muslim, it has a far different implication.

All that said, I agree with you: making fun of anyone for physical attributes is, at best, very weak tea and at worst, depending upon to what group they belong, uses their minority status to undermine them.
 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
68. That's one thing I remember...it was ugly...those who critized...as it
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:29 PM
Jun 2016

should have been. Her hair, her pantsuit, just about everything. I didn't vote for her, but I was ashamed of the level of personal attack.

Sadly, here it is again. Old Geezer, department store suits, (like he should spring for a tailor), finger-pointing (ever watched HRC in a crowd...lord she punched a lady in the chest.), bill uses a fist with a pointing thumb for emphasis. I've noticed other politicians do, as well. Know any good bald jokes? Ugh.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
14. FOUNDATION "NEWS" AND INSIGHTS IS FORTHCOMING I BELIEVE... IT WILL BE INCREASINGLY...
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:17 AM
Jun 2016
UNPLEASANT AS MADAM SECRETARY CONTINUES TO RELENTLESSLY PURSUE HER LIFELONG AMBITION... Will get ludicrous I am certain as well.... shortly! The NEWS of this will overwhelm the Corporate medias drive to cover it up!

Response to CorporatistNation (Reply #14)

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
60. There was no message in the post to which I replied. Only hyperbolic shouting.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:13 PM
Jun 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
61. Republicans are expected to be scoundrels, Democrats are expected to be better than that.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:16 PM
Jun 2016

Much better than that.

There IS a difference.

TexasTowelie

(111,907 posts)
116. Do you think that Trump is going to attack the Clinton Foundation
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:31 PM
Jun 2016

considering all of the issues regarding his own foundation and his meager donations to his own foundation over the years? Despite what is said by Sanders or anyone on DU it is not going to be an issue in the general election.

TexasTowelie

(111,907 posts)
128. Then he is playing with fire
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:41 PM
Jun 2016

and he will get burned. I'm certain that she will be ready to respond to any of his attacks whether it be in the press or during a debate.

 

larkrake

(1,674 posts)
130. Donald is a master at planting seeds of doubt and so far she has had no defence
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:45 PM
Jun 2016

against allegations against the Foundation. I think , if she could, she would have put it to bed.I suspect the e-mail was delayed to distract from the real crimes---"Squirrel!!!!

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
52. and I suspect that Sanders is VERY aware of the ..
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:03 PM
Jun 2016

...Clintons' vulnerability before the law vis a vis the Foundation.

He may know something we don't about the extent of the FBI investigation. We know they are reviewing the Foundation.

 

larkrake

(1,674 posts)
89. yes, her silence on the subject is very telling, but the Repugs have real meat here and will use it
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:01 PM
Jun 2016

they drag on nonsensical things, this is a true crime. Charities and non profits are money makers for administrators and rarely follow through for the victims."administrative costs" eat up donations.

It is also a great money laundering system, without taxes. The fact the Foundation isnt rated tells me alot

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
75. Where can I find information about this debunking? I don't have the book
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:44 PM
Jun 2016

so didn't read it. So when I do, please let me know which chapters and information I should take my black Sharpie to so as not to be misinformed.

Oh, and just MSM sources...we know those are the Only Ones that have any credibility...at least when they are agree with one's position.

boston bean

(36,217 posts)
139. The author had to remove many false accusations for the Kindle edition.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 02:07 PM
Jun 2016

I am not your teacher, nor am I your brain. Look it up on wiki, that will give you place to start.

boston bean

(36,217 posts)
142. Yeah, I can tell you are interested in the truth.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 02:24 PM
Jun 2016

Your truth only. That nothing you don't believe can be believed.

 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
10. "Assails" is a bit of a strong term...
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:14 AM
Jun 2016

He was asked whether or not he was concerned with how the charity operates, and he said, "Yeah, I am."

 

larkrake

(1,674 posts)
105. they have resorted to exaggerating everything and they have to feel a little
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:19 PM
Jun 2016

sick in the stomach that it makes perfect sense to suspect any charity involving gigantic foreign donations from evil leaders

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
17. The Charity That Engages In Money Laundering... The Money Laudering Operation That Occassionally
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:18 AM
Jun 2016

performs some charitable works....

BootinUp

(47,053 posts)
34. TRANSPARENCY. You wouldn't know about the contributors unless CLINTON FOUNDATION released it.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:42 AM
Jun 2016

Pull your head outa where ever it is.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
78. Well, there was this one...from a Canadian Money Repurposing source...
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:47 PM
Jun 2016

Wow. Caps and insults. Classy.

Tortmaster

(382 posts)
32. He's going to attack ...
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:40 AM
Jun 2016

... Jimmy Carter building houses next. He shows himself to be a passive-aggressive hypocrite and liar daily, now.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
93. The Carter derision has already been done. Decades ago.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:04 PM
Jun 2016

The rest of the post....pfffft. People who live in glass houses..........etc.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
15. See, gutter. Castro, Russia? Using where they get funds to help people as an attack.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:17 AM
Jun 2016

In his only tax return, his charity his 8k. Gutsy to call someone else out on helping others.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
21. Desperation is an ugly thing.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:26 AM
Jun 2016

No one wants to admit they've lost.
It is not unusual to see people lash out to destroy everything around them rather than admit their failure.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
96. So why the constant derision, attacks, hating on "the loser"?
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:06 PM
Jun 2016

Surely it can't be such a "done deal" as advertised given the increased hysteria from the HRC folks? Maybe?

Me...it's not over until it's over. Lots of shoes left to drop. That's a fact.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
24. The Foundation will prove to be very dangerous waters for Hillary
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:31 AM
Jun 2016

This is where the corruption is and where she's in a terrible position

Henhouse

(646 posts)
31. Wash, rinse, repeat.....
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:39 AM
Jun 2016

The Clinton's put Donna Shalala in as head of the Clinton Foundation in March of 2015. HRC, recognized the potential claims of conflict of interest and removed herself from the situation.

The rest of what you say is just recycled right-wing talking points.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
39. Nah, FBI investigators aren't RW puppets.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:46 AM
Jun 2016

I understand this is hard to accept. I'll be thinking of you when they make their report

 

larkrake

(1,674 posts)
136. This involves foreign donators, so would involve the CIA, and FBI, and Justice system
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:57 PM
Jun 2016

this is not just a US crime, it is an International crime and a total embarrassment to the POTUS who gave her the position that enabled her to swap donations (bribing the SoS)for lucrative weapon sales. The Pentagon is totally right wing, as are most of the alphabets.The FBI is the last alphabet with morals and ethics.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
71. Oh well, that settles it. Oh, they were fabulously wealthy by that time.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:34 PM
Jun 2016

Just a coincidence, I'm sure. I like the term "potential claims" which is actually true. The emails may say, in writing, something different.

The RW did not write or wipe the emails. Try again.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
41. Yes, it was thought so at the beginning and has proven to be so.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:48 AM
Jun 2016

It is my Opinion that the information in the recovered emails...those she was terrified of anyone seeing...except the hackers, are more the subject now, as well.

Pay to Play does not get out with a slap on the wrist, no matter how popular the individual. But, it is going to take some time and there are a whole lot more Is to dot and Ts to cross. The Romanian hacker has possibly speeded up the investigation by supposedly having downloaded many of them before The Wiping. And No One Knows Anything about it at this time. Leaks will likely start when the decision is either made or close...but not until. Paul Thompson, here on DU, has a good grasp on the situation. I don't encourage HRC folk to read it.

Unfortunately for the Democratic Party, this will likely emerge during the GE...when all Hell will break loose. This is not the VRWC that likely the FOIAs from Judicial Watch involves. But clearly they did know something. This surpasses a "coverup".

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
47. I didn't entirely get it until I read Paul Thompson's timeline.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:55 AM
Jun 2016

Interestingly Paul's OP got locked and he got flagged for review when he started asking questions about Justin Cooper, Bill Clinton's top aide at the Clinton Foundation.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512072459

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
64. Inconvenient facts. Got to keep them hidden and out of the hands
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:22 PM
Jun 2016

of the Peasants/DUers.

The emails are telling the story. And it doesn't end with the emails...seems it just began there.

 

larkrake

(1,674 posts)
127. It all stinks and there is a cover-up
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:40 PM
Jun 2016

everyone political and media are discouraged from addressing the Foundation innards

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
27. Pathetic and desperate.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:33 AM
Jun 2016

How low will Sanders go before he makes his exit? Forget about a dignified exit,that ship has sailed.

BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
51. I knew that I would regret venturing
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:02 PM
Jun 2016

into GD-P. But YOU will NO longer provide me with any reason for that regret.

Buh-bye!

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
85. Weird how it's OK to make fun of one person for his looks...
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:57 PM
Jun 2016

...and it's not OK to make fun of another person for her looks.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
90. Well, perhaps you could elucidate on what a "presidential type" looks like?
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:01 PM
Jun 2016

Let's see...ageism, hairism, classism, sexism...so many labels, so little time.

That all you got? Maybe if some of the more handsome men had had the cojones to run, we'd all get to swoon over how sexy they are. That ought to be worth a few votes, think?

Disgusting. The man has been running rings around people half his age for a year and this?

Desperation.

Response to Octafish (Reply #45)

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
43. It isn't her charity, despite it sharing her surname. It is a public charity.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:50 AM
Jun 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
50. Bwahaaaahaaaaaaaaa.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:02 PM
Jun 2016
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/clintons-659698-foundation-clinton.html

Biggest beneficiaries of Clinton Foundation are the Clintons

However, in a rare feat of balanced journalism, the New York Times did ask some questions. The paper looked into the nefarious activities of the Clinton Foundation and came up with instances of influence peddling on a grand scale. The Times used the upcoming book “Clinton Cash,” by Peter Schweizer as a road map to determine that, while Hillary was secretary of state, the Clintons got money when she approved the sale of important U.S. uranium reserves to seedy foreigners, including Russia (read Vladimir Putin). Largely unaccounted for, the money flowed to the Clinton Foundation, with $500,000 going to Bill Clinton for a one-hour speech.
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
53. "Clinton Cash" -soon to be a major motion picture by Alex Jones and Peter Schweizer!
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:05 PM
Jun 2016

Bwahahaha, indeed.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
113. Well then, let's hope she can keep a better rein on her husband.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:28 PM
Jun 2016

His hedgefund lots bushels of money...betting on the Greek poverty plan. It was rumored that the magic Cash Cow family name was used as to encourage investors. Also, wasn't she the one who said Bernie would leave millions without healthcare?

Better not to bring her or her husband's lineage up much...both have had, um, problems.

The apple does not fall far from the tree.

Henhouse

(646 posts)
117. Should Bernie keep a better rein on his wife....?
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:32 PM
Jun 2016

Maybe he should tell her to return the $200,000 Golden Parachute she received after burying Burlington College under a ton of debt.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
125. She ran a start up business. 80% of them fail. If you knew about
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:39 PM
Jun 2016

business startups you'd know that.

Oh, just for the Goose and Gander discussion...should the same apply to Mr. Mezvinsky? Pretty sure he got paid handsomely...and kept it all.

I think they ought to both be required to pay it back...but that's not how it works.

So, I guess we kind of agree, no?

SunSeeker

(51,504 posts)
86. Says the guy who only gives 4% of his income to charity.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:58 PM
Jun 2016

Way to go Bernie, dumpster diving for the worst trash from the right wing conspiracy theories.

 

larkrake

(1,674 posts)
114. well, he has very little income. I give $500 a year, does that make me evil?
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:28 PM
Jun 2016

I dont think the right wing has discovered the Foundation problems, I'm pretty sure the first to question it were Dems vetting her

SunSeeker

(51,504 posts)
157. He owns a home in DC and several properties in Vermont.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:47 PM
Jun 2016

Plus his travel expenses are paid by the Senate, so that is a rather comfortable income. It certainly puts him in top 1% of Vermonters.

SunSeeker

(51,504 posts)
159. Sanders only has one biological child...
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 04:21 PM
Jun 2016

Levi Sanders is his only biological child, who he had with a woman he never married. Sanders never had any kids with his first wife nor his second wife, Jane. Levi will do just fine, as will Jane's kids; Jane's ex-husband and her kids' father worked for IBM.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
88. LOL, "largely silent" my foot. He LAUNCHED his campaign the same day Clinton Cash
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:01 PM
Jun 2016

hit the street and didn't mind suggesting that the "issue" of Clinton Foundation contributions was "very troubling." And his entire stump speech is all about corruption and big money in politics, hint hint. He's just getting more desperate. And that pic is scary!



 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
132. I'm afraid the FBI agrees with the "very troubling" aspect.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:48 PM
Jun 2016

And no, it isn't a Review, it's an Investigation...per Dirctor Comey. That is intended to be "troubling".

Then, what has that to do with his hair...??? Care to share? (rhyme unintentional)

Spill the "hint, hint". Inquiring minds want to know.

You're scared of a photo? This post just hits all the highlights.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
133. RW noise machine leaks RW noise. Rinse and repeat.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:49 PM
Jun 2016

And yes I know all about the Obama appointment. Doesn't change a thing. Also that's a different matter.

2cannan

(344 posts)
92. Remember when Hillary promised Obama she would be transparent about the Clinton Foundation while she
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:03 PM
Jun 2016

served as SoS? She is the most mistake-prone candidate there is!

Exclusive: Despite Hillary Clinton promise, charity did not disclose donors
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-clinton-donations-idUSKBN0MF2FQ20150319

In 2008, Hillary Clinton promised Barack Obama, the president-elect, there would be no mystery about who was giving money to her family's globe-circling charities. She made a pledge to publish all the donors on an annual basis to ease concerns that as secretary of state she could be vulnerable to accusations of foreign influence.

At the outset, the Clinton Foundation did indeed publish what they said was a complete list of the names of more than 200,000 donors and has continued to update it. But in a breach of the pledge, the charity's flagship health program, which spends more than all of the other foundation initiatives put together, stopped making the annual disclosure in 2010, Reuters has found.

In response to questions from Reuters, officials at the Clinton Health Access Initiative (CHAI) and the foundation confirmed no complete list of donors to the Clintons' charities has been published since 2010. CHAI was spun off as a separate legal entity that year, but the officials acknowledged it still remains subject to the same disclosure agreement as the foundation.


Only took them 5 years to fix the problem.

Clinton Foundation, Aiming to Quiet Critics, Releases Donor Data
https://philanthropy.com/article/Clinton-Foundation-Aiming-to/232059

Clinton Foundation acknowledges ‘mistakes,’ emphasizes transparency
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clinton-foundation-acknowledges-mistakes-emphasizes-transparency/2015/04/26/8832621a-ec32-11e4-8abc-d6aa3bad79dd_story.html
 

larkrake

(1,674 posts)
118. bad decisions are her habit
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:33 PM
Jun 2016

Bush always failed, no matter how hard he tried, he was never successful at anything.

Hillary has always been propped up, always making terrible mistakes. She will be the Dem version of W with one exception. Her party does not respect her.

Transparency is her greatest fear. It would reveal she is a fraud

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
135. plus they set up another charity in Canada..
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:57 PM
Jun 2016

....and claim that Canadian law does not require disclosure of donor names.

A lie.

 

Duval

(4,280 posts)
150. And I do, too.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 02:49 PM
Jun 2016

This and other things worry me about having Clinton in the White House. Yeah, Trump would be worse, but I'm holding out hope for Bernie as our nominee.

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