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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:15 PM Jun 2016

Ahead of California, Bernie Sanders WARNS MEDIA Against Preemptive CORONATION of Hillary Clinton


"..For the record, and as Sanders also argued on Saturday, "Anyone who 'calls the election' on June 7th, be it the Clinton campaign or television networks, is knowingly and deliberately going against the very rules of the party..." -- Shaun King




Addressing concerns that the media may preemptively announce his rival Hillary Clinton as the "presumptive Democratic Party nominee" even before she has won the requisite numbers of pledge delegates, Bernie Sanders over the weekend indicated that such reporting would be both wrong and irresponsible and held to his commitment to take his campaign all the way to the national convention when so-called superdelegates will finally—and for the first time, in fact—be able to cast their vote for who they believe will make the best nominee. Six states are holding Democratic primaries this Tuesday, including California, New Mexico, New Jersey, Montana, South Dakota, and North Dakota. Amid some speculation, bolstered by overt comments by people like MSNBC's Chris Matthews, that cable outlets or other news agencies would call the election in favor of Clinton before all the results of next Tuesday's results are in, Sander reiterated his argument that even though he has a steep hill to climb, the race is much closer than often reported.

"It is extremely unlikely that Secretary Clinton will have the requisite number of pledged delegates to claim victory on Tuesday night," Sanders said at a press conference in California on Saturday. "Now I have heard reports that Secretary Clinton has said it’s all going to be over on Tuesday night. I have reports that the media, after the New Jersey results come in, are going to declare that it is all over. That simply is not accurate."

-snip-

As of Saturday afternoon, according to Associated Press figures, Sanders trailed Clinton in pledged delegates by a tally of 1,769 to 1,501 — a difference of 268 votes. Meanwhile, among the superdelegates—elected and party officials who automatically attend the convention where they vote for the candidate of their choice—Clinton has the stated support of 547 of them, compared to 46 who at this point say they back Sanders. Importantly, however, none of these superdelegates have actually "voted" and they can change their mind at any point until they cast their ballot at the convention. And so while the real difference between the candidates is less than 300 delegates, the media often continue to report that difference as more than twice times that. As of this writing on Sunday morning, for example, anyone going to MSNBC's "delegate tracker" on their website would see this:


Screenshot of MSNBC's "Delegate Tracker" on Sunday, June 5th. Instead of showing the real difference of 268, this tally shows the difference as 778. Such sloppy and misleading reporting—which has been ongoing, despite criticism, for months and months—gives the impression to uninformed voters that it's objectively true when outlets declare Clinton needs "about 60 more delegates" to clinch the nomination. The problem? It's not true. In reality, Clinton needs 614 delegates to get to that magic 2,383 number. And as Sanders campaign has been arguing, she is unlikely to get that even if she wins New Jersey or other stats on Tuesday. Expressing disgust with how the delegate count has been reported throughout the primary season, political observer and columnist Seth Abramson recently wrote:

"..While not rigged, there is no question that the Democratic Party’s primary process — which uses superdelegates to create an appearance of pre-election electoral inevitability and closed primaries and onerous registration requirements to exclude many new, independent, and party-switching voters — has dramatically favored Mrs. Clinton, just as the mainstream media, while not engaged in a massive conspiracy, has without question done all it can to aid Mrs. Clinton and hinder Mr. Sanders (as to airtime, coverage, reporting of superdelegate tallies contrary to explicit DNC instructions, and much more); and now, having failed to stop Sanders via either a lack of media coverage or the superdelegate process, a host of arguments against the Senator are now being marshaled by Party and media forces, not a single one of which is novel, and all of which are familiar strategies for decimating grassroots movements before they have an opportunity to threaten entrenched power..."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/seth-abramson/how-to-explain-the-sanders_b_10206250.html



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http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/06/05/ahead-california-sanders-warns-media-against-preemptive-coronation-clinton
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Ahead of California, Bernie Sanders WARNS MEDIA Against Preemptive CORONATION of Hillary Clinton (Original Post) Segami Jun 2016 OP
The Third Way Clinton machine and establishment thieves... Segami Jun 2016 #1
57 more delegates and it's over. ucrdem Jun 2016 #2
Round and round you go,.... Segami Jun 2016 #15
LOL who's spinning in that tub? ucrdem Jun 2016 #16
bernie and his veiled threats AGAIN. Look out it's gonna be a "messy" convention nt msongs Jun 2016 #3
Media doesn't take orders from the losing candidate beachbumbob Jun 2016 #4
Thus, the converse is ????? libdem4life Jun 2016 #10
#berniemath YouDig Jun 2016 #5
Stop calling it a coronation. Mz Pip Jun 2016 #6
Stop f***en cheating......its demeaning to the millions of supporters who voted for Bernie. Segami Jun 2016 #9
You have evidence of cheating? Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2016 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author Gomez163 Jun 2016 #7
If he hates the way Dems run their primary, maybe he shouldn't have run, right? CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #8
Maybe he should help fix the broken system Meteor Man Jun 2016 #17
It would have been far better to raise those issues four years ago... CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #18
A proper coronation is when rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #11
I'm sure the media is very afraid. Of course, it does take a while to clean egg off a camera... nt anotherproletariat Jun 2016 #12
It's BS and his cheerleaders that are looking for a coronation, by getting the Superdelegates to SFnomad Jun 2016 #13
Or what? RandySF Jun 2016 #14
They are going to call it at 5 eastern Skink Jun 2016 #20
of course it will effect vote totals. hopemountain Jun 2016 #21
I can think of a place where that warning can be filed... Tarc Jun 2016 #22
 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
1. The Third Way Clinton machine and establishment thieves...
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:16 PM
Jun 2016
...always find ways of cheating by moving the goal posts when threatened with a possible loss.


ucrdem

(15,720 posts)
2. 57 more delegates and it's over.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:18 PM
Jun 2016

That might be tonight if Puerto Rico and/or a handful of remaining uncommitted superdelegates like Barack Obama and Debbie WS for example decide they've had enough.

Mz Pip

(28,455 posts)
6. Stop calling it a coronation.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:20 PM
Jun 2016

It's demeaning to the millions of people who have voted for her.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
9. Stop f***en cheating......its demeaning to the millions of supporters who voted for Bernie.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:22 PM
Jun 2016

Response to Segami (Original post)

 

CrowCityDem

(2,348 posts)
18. It would have been far better to raise those issues four years ago...
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:32 PM
Jun 2016

... rather than run, lose, and complain that you're only losing because the rules are stupid. Instead of looking like someone who wants to bring about fairness, he looks like a bitter, sore losing complaining because he didn't get his way.

 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
11. A proper coronation is when
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:24 PM
Jun 2016

the candidate who comes in a distant second in votes is somehow declared the winner of an "election."

 

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
12. I'm sure the media is very afraid. Of course, it does take a while to clean egg off a camera... nt
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:24 PM
Jun 2016
 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
13. It's BS and his cheerleaders that are looking for a coronation, by getting the Superdelegates to
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:24 PM
Jun 2016

overturn the Will of the Voters

Skink

(10,122 posts)
20. They are going to call it at 5 eastern
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:58 PM
Jun 2016

Hope that doesn't effect vote totals around the country.

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
21. of course it will effect vote totals.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 02:36 PM
Jun 2016

this is the sole reason they are planning to do so - making such planned announcements: cheating.

Tarc

(10,601 posts)
22. I can think of a place where that warning can be filed...
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 02:39 PM
Jun 2016


Seriously Bern, the gala is winding down, and it's last call.
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