Why shouldn't Democrats / left leaning independents fight Hillary's nomination?

[AZ Progressive]

- Hillary is a war hawk in a time of heated tensions with Russia, who BTW has the largest nuclear arsenal.

- Hillary has demonstrated poor judgement, to the point of being untrustworthy in keeping America's secrets secure.

- Hillary is pro big corporation, pro Wall Street, pro neoliberalism at a time when the TPP and the TIPP "trade deals" with sovereignty violating trojan horses will be voted on. Such trade deals will give legal power to big corporations to destroy our environmental and food safety laws. Do you want to eat toxic food and breathe polluted air?

- Climate change is starting to speed up in intensity, climate change absolutely has to be dealt with and Hillary can be bought out.

- Hillary is just about the worst candidate you can put in the General Election. She is unpopular outside of the Democratic Party (which is only 29% of the electorate.) She can justifiably be attacked on her honesty and judgement, and is under FBI investigation, and has an incredible amount of baggage, not to mention a true uniter of the Republican Party. Don't give me that bullshit about "qualifications" as if your a mindless robot. Judgement matters more than experience. Hillary is also relatively unexperienced in winning elections, not even having won one without an unfair advantage.

Groupthink can be a very destructive thing.

[AZ Progressive]

1. The Democratic Party is not the center of the universe

Democrats are just 29% of the electorate.

[Txbluedog]

2. SIMPLE

You fought it in the primary and lost, now it's your time to decide if you want incremental shift towards the goals you desire or a shift in the opposite direction for the general

[beachbumbob]

3. And yet Hillary won the nomination and Bernie lost

She beat him with votes....pledged delegates ....Superdelegates....and not even close...it's done Hillary won...

[AZ Progressive]

7. A lot of those were people thinking that Hillary was more electable

Which is foolish.

[Lord Magus]

9. It doesn't matter what people were thinking when they voted.

A vote is a vote.

[Demsrule86]

4. WE have a process

Hillary won...you can't fight a nomination.

[AZ Progressive]

8. What good does it do to win a Democratic nomination only to lose the GE?

Who remembers the party nomination winners that went on to defeat in the general election? They are only remembered in a derisive way. Hillary's reputation will be totally ruined if she loses the General Election.

[hack89]

19. What other alternative is there other than letting people vote?

Is that your concern - that we let the wrong people have a voice in the process?

[CrowCityDem]

5. Because the winner wins and the loser loses. That's the 'democracy' thing Bernie keeps talking about

[msongs]

6. but YOUR groupthink is good. like supers bad, no wait if they vote for bernie they are good etc nt

[AZ Progressive]

10. Hillary is a threat to the quality of life of many Democratic members / left leaning independents

Which makes the resistance justifiable.

[geek tragedy]

22. how do you define 'resistance?' nt

[YouDig]

11. Because she got more votes. Unless you are anti-democracy.

[davidlynch]

12. There is *no* reason Democrats/left leaning independents shouldn't fight Hillary's nomination n/t

[AZ Progressive]

13. If you are young, Hillary can even be a threat to your life in the future

because she may not do enough for global warming to prevent runaway global warming that will lead to a massive increase in wars due to food and water becoming scarce and the breakdown of civilization.

[Dem2]

14. Speaking of groupthink

I try not to laugh how people go into their little corners and work themselves into a frenzy exaggerating the f*** out of their hated opponent's positions to the point where they believe their own rhetoric. So, well said, group think indeed!

[Maedhros]

15. Because authoritarians get very upset when other people don't emulate their obeisance.[n/t]

[Loki Liesmith]

16. They did and they lost

[AZ Progressive]

17. When someone's trying to drown you, do you fight back?

Or do you "accept your fate"? Any respectable American would be the former.

[AZ Progressive]

18. Amusing that this thread is unpopular with the Hillary bots

[farleftlib]

20. One quibble. She's not just about the worst...

she most certainly is the worst. On her good days she polls neck and neck with Trump.
That is rock bottom.

K & R

[geek tragedy]

21. they did fight it. They lost the fight and now are sitting on their back in the middle

of the ring whining that just because she finished ahead on points and knocked him out, she shouldn't win