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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 02:23 PM Jun 2016

Stephanopoulos GRILLS Hillary Clinton: Do You ACCEPT Report That ‘YOU BROKE State Department Rules’



Who me?....I'm innocent.....I play by the rules just like this primary.....


George Stephanopoulos confronted Hillary Clinton this morning over whether she accepts the State Department IG report’s conclusion that her private email use “was not allowed [and] that you broke State Department rules.”

Clinton insisted that the report vindicates her, the rules weren’t clarified until after she left, and she has already said it was a mistake.

Stephanopoulos challenged her on the idea that she wasn’t unique in using email this way, because Colin Powell (for one) didn’t have a private server. He asked if she really doesn’t just “accept the conclusions of the report.”

Clinton said that “people around the government” knew what she was doing.

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Stephanopoulos GRILLS Hillary Clinton: Do You ACCEPT Report That ‘YOU BROKE State Department Rules’ (Original Post) Segami Jun 2016 OP
Hillary repeats her never-ending lies......Nixon would be proud. Segami Jun 2016 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Gomez163 Jun 2016 #27
But as Nixon himself famously said: forest444 Jun 2016 #28
He also famously said..."I am not a crook" libdem4life Jun 2016 #36
That's Hillary's electability problem in a nutshell. forest444 Jun 2016 #62
Old memories LOL libdem4life Jun 2016 #87
Is that right? forest444 Jun 2016 #114
I drove a VW bug and lived in California. Southern, at this time. libdem4life Jun 2016 #123
Another thing Nixon said: Peachhead22 Jun 2016 #78
Yes, he had all manner of witty reparte. Anyone yearning for the libdem4life Jun 2016 #88
Perfectly logical.... pokerfan Jun 2016 #111
Ah, but Hillary isn't the president so we have to nip that possibility in the bud. pdsimdars Jun 2016 #133
This is why there is absolutely no fucking chance in hell. Never ever onecaliberal Jun 2016 #2
It's non stop obfuscation Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #3
That's what lawyers do. They think obfuscation isn't telling lies. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2016 #40
No, some of us lawyers do understand. amandabeech Jun 2016 #89
You're right and I'm sorry. There ARE good lawyers... then there are those who're Wordsmiths. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2016 #92
Thank you! amandabeech Jun 2016 #94
Thank you for saying you don't approve laserhaas Jun 2016 #97
I'm temporarily retired, and I don't associate with attorneys much. amandabeech Jun 2016 #103
I surely know what you're sayin...Ha laserhaas Jun 2016 #105
'“people around the government” knew what she was doing.' - Well people 'around' like Grucifier... PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #4
LOL!.....yea, she forgot to add that the Russian government are the people that knew Segami Jun 2016 #7
You know.... people. dinkytron Jun 2016 #58
According to the OIG report Mnpaul Jun 2016 #120
To me that sounds like a threat. ... spin Jun 2016 #129
Unless they can convince the FBI they have something good and can get an immunity deal. pdsimdars Jun 2016 #134
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #5
Slippin' n slidin' all around the graveyard's perimeter. We see you Hillary and we nc4bo Jun 2016 #6
Hillary cannot seem to give a straight answer, that is why this email business won't die One Black Sheep Jun 2016 #8
how can we have a Commander In Chief who can't accept responsibility? grasswire Jun 2016 #15
Well this guy was President for 8 years... PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #24
So the question becomes "Why would we want ANOTHER?" nt cherokeeprogressive Jun 2016 #41
You mean like her hubby laserhaas Jun 2016 #98
did you hear how many times she hesitated and said "uh"? grasswire Jun 2016 #44
a major tell Fairgo Jun 2016 #96
Exactly lbp Jun 2016 #90
The same way...she is going to prevail...here at DU laserhaas Jun 2016 #99
And who will respect our justice system if she is not held responsible? pdsimdars Jun 2016 #135
They are in major CYA mode now. I get it, too, because indictments are imminent. reformist2 Jun 2016 #9
And it is way past time for the MEDIA to stop enabling her. grasswire Jun 2016 #16
+1,000,000,000. n/t Different Drummer Jun 2016 #18
I was expecting some replies claiming George Stephanopoulis was a right wing hack. sorechasm Jun 2016 #115
He did her a great favor. grasswire Jun 2016 #116
Agreed. They were both playing footsie with the truth. Both were nervous and agitated. sorechasm Jun 2016 #142
Haven't you noticed the behavior around here... KULawHawk Jun 2016 #124
God I'm glad I "ignore" all of that. I don't even see it. It makes DU so much better that way. pdsimdars Jun 2016 #136
Repeatedly denying info in the public record mooseprime Jun 2016 #10
I think maybe those in her inner circle who really care for her should do an intervention. pdsimdars Jun 2016 #137
Ugh.... think Jun 2016 #11
The real bomb in this one is about the FBI interview hootinholler Jun 2016 #12
why can't George say "law" and not "rules"? grasswire Jun 2016 #13
People around *which* government? lumberjack_jeff Jun 2016 #14
CYA mode nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #17
he asks about her personal email "account"....not about a server. grasswire Jun 2016 #19
...! He used to work for Bill & Hillary... KoKo Jun 2016 #65
agreed --- it was phony mean to to look like grilling nt grasswire Jun 2016 #73
Check this out...about Stephanopoulis $75,000 Donation to Clinton Foundation... KoKo Jun 2016 #75
UGH!! nt grasswire Jun 2016 #81
It was just a mistake and if Stephanopoulos could do differently now, he would... Uncle Joe Jun 2016 #83
You are Welcome..Thanks for Viewing! KoKo Jun 2016 #85
But he did do it. He did ask her uncomfortable questions. And that was more than most do. pdsimdars Jun 2016 #138
She's constitutionally incapable of shutting off the lies demwing Jun 2016 #20
Careful 'demwing'...esteemeds such as you are forbidden laserhaas Jun 2016 #100
I cannot wait for 4 more years of Clinton scandals. jillan Jun 2016 #21
Mem'ries, Light the corners of my mind..... Segami Jun 2016 #22
They both like to use those fingers to point at everyone else...disgusting people. haikugal Jun 2016 #35
"..work hard and play by the rules." Bill Clinton Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2016 #38
The sad thing is that many of us expected So Much More...from Them! KoKo Jun 2016 #72
"If I had to do it over again, I certainly wouldn't" Laughing Mirror Jun 2016 #23
She won't survive impeachment...there won't be "in four years"... truebrit71 Jun 2016 #46
re:"If I had to do it over again, I certainly wouldn't." Hopefully we won't be saying the same thing thesquanderer Jun 2016 #50
such disregard for the safety of people at home and abroad. peace13 Jun 2016 #127
Did she say that about this. . . or was it the vote for war . .. or was it about fracking. . .. or pdsimdars Jun 2016 #139
At the 11th hour, 59th minute, 59th second... Tarc Jun 2016 #25
You might want to direct your question to George..... Segami Jun 2016 #26
Not directing any questions to anyone Tarc Jun 2016 #29
Then stay off the cliffs... Segami Jun 2016 #30
But I <3 Clifs! Tarc Jun 2016 #31
Ok,...enjoy yourself Segami Jun 2016 #32
I Believe I Can Fly Tarc Jun 2016 #42
Isn't R. Kelly the guy that got in trouble for peeing on underage girls? Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #49
Not guilty, as I recall Tarc Jun 2016 #51
Creepy Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #60
She lacks the moral courage and integrity to admit a mistake. tabasco Jun 2016 #33
In TOP leadership position laserhaas Jun 2016 #102
I think this is from last week. pdsimdars Jun 2016 #34
June 5th Segami Jun 2016 #39
He did the same thing last week. I'll have to go watch the whole segment again. Thanks pdsimdars Jun 2016 #113
CYA. "Gee, judge, nobody clarified the rules about robbing banks." Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2016 #37
Judge, If I had to do it over again, I certainly wouldn't Peachhead22 Jun 2016 #82
She's either incredibly dishonest or incredibly stupid shawn703 Jun 2016 #43
Hillary is not stupid. bvar22 Jun 2016 #47
Fucking Bullshit artist. Seriously this is the best the Democrats can allegedly come up with? truebrit71 Jun 2016 #45
A...friggn...men laserhaas Jun 2016 #106
The way it is, sorry to say. For now, but progressive change is happening. It has to. appalachiablue Jun 2016 #141
Hillary sounds persuasive to me. nt LAS14 Jun 2016 #48
Believe everything you hear? The IG's report PROVES untrue that "others did the same thing" JudyM Jun 2016 #64
I believe that at the time that's what she believed. No one... LAS14 Jun 2016 #74
Except that there was literally no reason for doing it at all except to avoid FOIA requests. Kentonio Jun 2016 #80
It wasn't a way to avoid FOIA requests. Obviously. LAS14 Jun 2016 #84
For some emails, tabasco Jun 2016 #86
Well, the small number in the ambiguous... LAS14 Jun 2016 #108
Huh? Obviously? What was it for, then, if not to prevent public availability of documents that are JudyM Jun 2016 #101
Obviously, because the public has now seen all of her work-related e-mails. LAS14 Jun 2016 #104
Because the FBI got a backup copy of the server, that's the only reason. Please, you are not JudyM Jun 2016 #112
Well there's a new one. No. She turned over those 30,000. LAS14 Jun 2016 #117
Then they found that many more when they found the server backup. JudyM Jun 2016 #122
The reason she wanted a private server.... LAS14 Jun 2016 #130
You can find them easily in ample articles or read the IG report if you are genuinely interested. JudyM Jun 2016 #140
She can't answer that without an indictment immediately. glowing Jun 2016 #52
We are being played...manifestly laserhaas Jun 2016 #107
"NO." elleng Jun 2016 #53
How do Hillary supporters square this circle? floppyboo Jun 2016 #54
Yup...this one may be Trumps no1 campaign ad laserhaas Jun 2016 #109
she does not admit her blunders larkrake Jun 2016 #55
They aren't blunders. She just got caught. nt Chezboo Jun 2016 #76
There's no way this is acceptable. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2016 #56
disgusting amborin Jun 2016 #57
"If I had to do it over again..." dana_b Jun 2016 #59
Sounds from her Iraq vote..... Segami Jun 2016 #61
LGBT rights, immigration, dana_b Jun 2016 #67
If I had to do it over again... Chezboo Jun 2016 #77
If I had to do it over again. . . KULawHawk Jun 2016 #125
How can she say with a straight face the IG report vindicated her? My God, put a polygraph on her. EndElectoral Jun 2016 #63
Clinton lie detector Segami Jun 2016 #66
It's straight out of the Clinton playbook. Never give an inch, pretend every report exonerates them. reformist2 Jun 2016 #69
Obviously, George Stephanopolous is part of the vast right wing conspiracy. Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #68
Ha Ha...Warren laserhaas Jun 2016 #110
She is so corrupt, yet her cultists can never see it. She's like w bush on WMDs. BillZBubb Jun 2016 #70
She is really good at distortion, using weasel words, and obsfucation. Vattel Jun 2016 #71
as usual for Berners MFM008 Jun 2016 #79
Your post does nothing to excuse, explain or mitigate tabasco Jun 2016 #118
"everybody knew" is not vindication. It sounds ridiculous. farleftlib Jun 2016 #91
I won my mental bet as to the answer Babel_17 Jun 2016 #93
This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj Jun 2016 #95
"Clinton said that “people around the government” knew what she was doing."... MrMickeysMom Jun 2016 #119
Yes,...the Russian government...lol! Segami Jun 2016 #121
Yeah, that's not grilling. That's giving her a huge opening to say whatever she wants to say. merrily Jun 2016 #126
HRC interrupting and talking over Mr. Stepanopoulos... Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #128
Good interview by Stephanopoulos, thanks for posting. Mrs. Clinton did great. Sunlei Jun 2016 #131
Imperious! She looks right at the camera and flat out LIES. pdsimdars Jun 2016 #132

Response to Segami (Reply #1)

forest444

(5,902 posts)
62. That's Hillary's electability problem in a nutshell.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 04:55 PM
Jun 2016

She needs independent voters to see her like this:



But what they usually see is this:

forest444

(5,902 posts)
114. Is that right?
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:47 PM
Jun 2016

Between you and me, I should have been born in your generation.

The economy was good, the music was great, and the girls wore flowers in their hair. These days almost everything looks like something out of a Jersey Shore episode.

C'est la vie.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
123. I drove a VW bug and lived in California. Southern, at this time.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 12:45 AM
Jun 2016

I was a hippie wannabe, I think. I hung with them, but my boyfriend and I were school teachers, so didn't quite make the cut. Getting caught smoking pot in those days would end your career...real quick like. I did wear tie dye, though...that counts for something.

I hear you about the flowers and the clothes...love was in the air.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
88. Yes, he had all manner of witty reparte. Anyone yearning for the
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:14 PM
Jun 2016

old days just needs to start paying attention this election season, IMO. It's updated, to be more "gender correct".

 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
89. No, some of us lawyers do understand.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:16 PM
Jun 2016

Please don't think that all of us appreciate this kind of behavior. It gives us all a bad name.

Remember, Bill lost his license for several years for this kind of stuff and more.

Those were lawyers who took that license away from him.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
92. You're right and I'm sorry. There ARE good lawyers... then there are those who're Wordsmiths.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:21 PM
Jun 2016

The ones who insert "plausible deniability" into every single situation they find themselves in. Hillary Clinton would be one of the latter.

I am sorry though. That generalization wasn't fair.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
97. Thank you for saying you don't approve
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:34 PM
Jun 2016

But for every one of you there seems to be 100 in hopes she gets away with it all.

We don't see attorneys at law ...properly...openly making a case against her doing wrongs. Including the more serious malfeasance ussues of quid pro quo Clinton Foundation taking in money from foreign monorachs while she was Sec. of State.

An issue that became unequivocal once she re-joined it.

Senator Stevens was (wrongly) convicted for a used chair

Traficant was (wrongly) convicted for a rent-a-car.

Governor Siegelman did even less than Stevens or JT

But Chris Christie, as US Attorney, gave his former boss, USAG John Ashcroft, a $50 million Deferred Prosecution Agreement; and he's rewarded with Governor job (where similar cronyism and corruption is going on throughout)

Because no other lawyers openly call blue...as blue

No one seems to remember that we use to call it something else ..when top fed prosecutors would take millions of dollars...to forgo federal prosecutions

 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
103. I'm temporarily retired, and I don't associate with attorneys much.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:51 PM
Jun 2016

You can be that some of them are talking about it, but they won't talk publicly. You can be sure that they are talking about the State Department IG report, though.

Nothing will pop up here or in the news media--most people won't stick their neck out.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
105. I surely know what you're sayin...Ha
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:56 PM
Jun 2016

Can't find one counsel...out of thousands contacted ..to stick their head out and join my case against manifest injustice


Even with my having confessiins about intentional lying under oath...to the courts

This is why Bernie v Hillary...is a good v ebol battle...that should never even exist...being allowed to do so.

Thank you for your candor..retired or not

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
4. '“people around the government” knew what she was doing.' - Well people 'around' like Grucifier...
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 02:28 PM
Jun 2016

apparently did.

spin

(17,493 posts)
129. To me that sounds like a threat. ...
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 03:01 AM
Jun 2016

In other words ... everybody knew I was breaking the rules and if I go down I'm going to take a whole bunch of people with me as they were breaking the rules too.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
134. Unless they can convince the FBI they have something good and can get an immunity deal.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:41 AM
Jun 2016

Response to Segami (Original post)

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
6. Slippin' n slidin' all around the graveyard's perimeter. We see you Hillary and we
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 02:30 PM
Jun 2016

Do not like what we see AND do not believe one word coming out of your mouth.

One Black Sheep

(458 posts)
8. Hillary cannot seem to give a straight answer, that is why this email business won't die
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 02:30 PM
Jun 2016

She just keeps making it worse by her refusal to bluntly say, "I was wrong. I take full responsibility."

Instead she uses weasel words and tries to act as if she was in the right, despite what the report said.

This kind of arrogance and inability to give a straight answer is one big reason so many of the people dislike her, don't trust her, and why her unfavorability ratings are record breaking.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
15. how can we have a Commander In Chief who can't accept responsibility?
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 02:48 PM
Jun 2016

boggles the mind that some would allow a weasel like her near that position of power.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
98. You mean like her hubby
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:41 PM
Jun 2016

Who didn't ..... totally get off.... 'Scot Free'

He was disbarred

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
44. did you hear how many times she hesitated and said "uh"?
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 03:37 PM
Jun 2016

She has to stop between every freaking word to make sure the next one isn't going to incriminate her.

Fairgo

(1,571 posts)
96. a major tell
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:30 PM
Jun 2016

The lying end game - diminishing space to prevaricate...legal consequences closing in...

lbp

(8 posts)
90. Exactly
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:17 PM
Jun 2016

The fact that she's contradicted herself so much on this matter (and many others) is a terrible sign, especially for a presidential candidate, but her campaign prevails. It's like there's a bubble that the truth just can't penetrate.

I expect this from the GOP but 2016 is different some how.

We're doomed.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
99. The same way...she is going to prevail...here at DU
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:46 PM
Jun 2016

long before July votes

Even venerates at DU...are forbidden to say the truth

If you want to know who rules over you...just take notice of who you are being forbidden to criticize

And they dare to call this a Democratic process!

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
135. And who will respect our justice system if she is not held responsible?
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:43 AM
Jun 2016

As someone put it, if we don't have laws that apply to everyone in the same way then we don't have democracy.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
9. They are in major CYA mode now. I get it, too, because indictments are imminent.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 02:30 PM
Jun 2016

I wouldn't expect any of them to admit to something that could amount to being a felony, with possible prison time attached.

But it's up to us to see through the BS, and realize the huge trouble they are actually in.

sorechasm

(631 posts)
115. I was expecting some replies claiming George Stephanopoulis was a right wing hack.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:34 PM
Jun 2016

Whatever happens in the next two weeks, these questions are only going to become more severe. It may no longer be sufficient to keep 'killing the messengers.'

Hillary better come up with some better answers.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
116. He did her a great favor.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:02 PM
Jun 2016

He kept saying "personal email account" instead of "server" and he could not use the word "lie" to her.

And this was called "grilling"

I call it framing.

sorechasm

(631 posts)
142. Agreed. They were both playing footsie with the truth. Both were nervous and agitated.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 08:24 PM
Jun 2016

Both were very bad actors, playing the obligatory Q&A session, hoping the public will be satisfied. They must think the public is incredibly gullible.

 

KULawHawk

(97 posts)
124. Haven't you noticed the behavior around here...
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:14 AM
Jun 2016

All her supporters have kicked in to high gear with their posting and behavior. Everything is a misdirection to avoid the writing on the wall.

Attack other posters, attack news sources, excuse away the facts, and obfuscate anything that doesn't resemble falling in line to trumpet her supposed victory Tuesday. No. Matter. What.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
136. God I'm glad I "ignore" all of that. I don't even see it. It makes DU so much better that way.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:46 AM
Jun 2016

mooseprime

(476 posts)
10. Repeatedly denying info in the public record
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 02:39 PM
Jun 2016

is not a feature of sound mental health. It should not be enabled with additional power and influence.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
137. I think maybe those in her inner circle who really care for her should do an intervention.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:47 AM
Jun 2016

hootinholler

(26,451 posts)
12. The real bomb in this one is about the FBI interview
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 02:46 PM
Jun 2016

If that were the case, why would her lawyer remind the FBI she has no obligation to be interviewed.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
13. why can't George say "law" and not "rules"?
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 02:46 PM
Jun 2016

He is playing into her framing.

She broke the LAW.

The media can't say the word "lying" either.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
14. People around *which* government?
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 02:48 PM
Jun 2016

It would appear that most governments except ours know what was on it.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
19. he asks about her personal email "account"....not about a server.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 02:54 PM
Jun 2016

He is as ill-informed as Tweety, or perhaps that was deliberate obfuscation. It allows her to deflect.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
75. Check this out...about Stephanopoulis $75,000 Donation to Clinton Foundation...
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 06:21 PM
Jun 2016

MSNBC's Morning Joe Panel Discusses Stephanopoulos - Clinton Foundation Donation Scandal


Uncle Joe

(65,544 posts)
83. It was just a mistake and if Stephanopoulos could do differently now, he would...
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 06:48 PM
Jun 2016
that sounds familiar.

Thanks for the video, KoKo.
 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
138. But he did do it. He did ask her uncomfortable questions. And that was more than most do.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:49 AM
Jun 2016
 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
20. She's constitutionally incapable of shutting off the lies
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 02:57 PM
Jun 2016

Same shit, different Clinton.

How can you EVER expect such a person to follow through on ANY promise?

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
100. Careful 'demwing'...esteemeds such as you are forbidden
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:49 PM
Jun 2016

To say such...

And many have been hidden (manifest injustly so) for far less

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
72. The sad thing is that many of us expected So Much More...from Them!
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 05:48 PM
Jun 2016

Last edited Sun Jun 5, 2016, 06:56 PM - Edit history (1)

We got a lot, though. A Dynasty....of very questionable repute. And, if worse comes to worse...Nixon Years of drip..drip..drip if nothing comes out before the election--it will come out eventually.

Laughing Mirror

(4,185 posts)
23. "If I had to do it over again, I certainly wouldn't"
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 03:01 PM
Jun 2016

Same old tired line, same old tired excuse she gives repeatedly for all her other blunders such as Iraq. Who could buy that line anymore? Few do.

"If I had to do it over again, I certainly wouldn't." She'll be saying it again four years from now, heaven forbid.

thesquanderer

(13,111 posts)
50. re:"If I had to do it over again, I certainly wouldn't." Hopefully we won't be saying the same thing
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 04:27 PM
Jun 2016

about making Hillary our nominee.

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
127. such disregard for the safety of people at home and abroad.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:34 AM
Jun 2016

Remember the sniper fire and her callous lies that made the men and women who were protecting her look inept. Who knows how many of them she of them she endangered with the unsecured server. We will never know.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
139. Did she say that about this. . . or was it the vote for war . .. or was it about fracking. . .. or
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:52 AM
Jun 2016

was it about bankruptcy bill . . . .

(you get the idea) Always on the wrong side, and always saying "sorry" AFTERWARDS!@

Tarc

(10,602 posts)
29. Not directing any questions to anyone
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 03:09 PM
Jun 2016

Just pitying the DU'ers that are still giving that rock a Sisyphean shove...

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
33. She lacks the moral courage and integrity to admit a mistake.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 03:21 PM
Jun 2016

Very bad qualities for a person in a leadership position.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
113. He did the same thing last week. I'll have to go watch the whole segment again. Thanks
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:15 PM
Jun 2016

Peachhead22

(1,083 posts)
82. Judge, If I had to do it over again, I certainly wouldn't
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 06:38 PM
Jun 2016

Judge: Well OK then. I think you learned you lesson. Just don't commit anymore felonies. Case dismissed.

/then Hillary supporters woke up.

shawn703

(2,712 posts)
43. She's either incredibly dishonest or incredibly stupid
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 03:31 PM
Jun 2016

And both are disqualifiers for the office she seeks.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
47. Hillary is not stupid.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 03:46 PM
Jun 2016

She IS incredibly arrogant, and believes all the rest of us are stupid,
and, so far, she has been correct. She has been caught lying for years, and still gets away with it.

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
45. Fucking Bullshit artist. Seriously this is the best the Democrats can allegedly come up with?
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 03:42 PM
Jun 2016

This is just one of many reasons why people despise this person.

I have no interest in another Clinton administration parsing it's way through the further destruction of the middle class...

appalachiablue

(44,196 posts)
141. The way it is, sorry to say. For now, but progressive change is happening. It has to.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:34 PM
Jun 2016

K & R the Thread, thanks.

JudyM

(29,785 posts)
64. Believe everything you hear? The IG's report PROVES untrue that "others did the same thing"
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 05:00 PM
Jun 2016

among other "discrepancies" between her assertions and the report's findings of fact.

The 4th chimp: ADMIT no evil...

LAS14

(15,537 posts)
74. I believe that at the time that's what she believed. No one...
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 06:09 PM
Jun 2016

... had addressed servers. It seems reasonable that she didn't think it was an issue.

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
80. Except that there was literally no reason for doing it at all except to avoid FOIA requests.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 06:28 PM
Jun 2016

LAS14

(15,537 posts)
108. Well, the small number in the ambiguous...
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:03 PM
Jun 2016

.... list surely indicate that having a server was a rotten way to protect her 30,000+ e-mails from public view.

JudyM

(29,785 posts)
101. Huh? Obviously? What was it for, then, if not to prevent public availability of documents that are
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:49 PM
Jun 2016

by law, public record?

JudyM

(29,785 posts)
112. Because the FBI got a backup copy of the server, that's the only reason. Please, you are not
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:13 PM
Jun 2016

reading enough of the facts... see the I.G.'s report and the deposition testimony.

LAS14

(15,537 posts)
130. The reason she wanted a private server....
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 07:25 AM
Jun 2016

.... as stated by her staff (and probably by herself) is that she didn't want anyone to be able to get at her personal e-mails, and she didn't want to have to switch e-mail providers between public and private. She was allowed to remove her personal e-mails (since everyone makes the decision about which is public and which is private before they send them if they use two providers.) That sounds perfectly reasonable to me. Anyway, could you point me to the relevant quotes in the IG and depositions?

JudyM

(29,785 posts)
140. You can find them easily in ample articles or read the IG report if you are genuinely interested.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 11:35 AM
Jun 2016
 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
107. We are being played...manifestly
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:02 PM
Jun 2016

And in a couple of weeks...she'll face one who will (sadly) lauded for calling her to account

for obvious misfeasance and malfeasance

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
59. "If I had to do it over again..."
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 04:45 PM
Jun 2016

EVERYONE says that AFTER the fact!! We need a President, a commander in chief, who will get it right the FIRST time! She's wrong an awful lot the first time around!

 

KULawHawk

(97 posts)
125. If I had to do it over again. . .
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:22 AM
Jun 2016

I'd never vote for her.

Thank God I got it right the first time. She didn't get my vote in the Primaries, and definitely won't in November - unless I end up on her jury. Then I'll vote for her to be found guilty.

EndElectoral

(4,213 posts)
63. How can she say with a straight face the IG report vindicated her? My God, put a polygraph on her.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 04:59 PM
Jun 2016

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
69. It's straight out of the Clinton playbook. Never give an inch, pretend every report exonerates them.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 05:17 PM
Jun 2016

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
70. She is so corrupt, yet her cultists can never see it. She's like w bush on WMDs.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 05:27 PM
Jun 2016

"...we found em..." Yeah right.

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
71. She is really good at distortion, using weasel words, and obsfucation.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 05:33 PM
Jun 2016

Multi-talented I guess.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
118. Your post does nothing to excuse, explain or mitigate
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:54 PM
Jun 2016

H. Clinton's poor judgment and dishonesty.

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
91. "everybody knew" is not vindication. It sounds ridiculous.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:19 PM
Jun 2016

"Hundreds of people knew." Huh? What does that prove? Nothing. Moving the goal posts yet again.

What a pitiful excuse. It sounds like "the dog ate my homework" or "I was just holding that bag of weed
for my friend."

Not. Fit. For. Dogcatcher.

Response to Segami (Original post)

merrily

(45,251 posts)
126. Yeah, that's not grilling. That's giving her a huge opening to say whatever she wants to say.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:29 AM
Jun 2016

Tim Russert used to do that kind of thing every week. For a Republican, he'd nod as they spoke and either ask no follow up questions or a lame follow up question or two. With a Democrat, his follow up questions came one after the other, all aimed at the jugular and he'd talk over them when they tried to reply. Then, he'd claim he'd asked the "tough questions" of both sides equally.

 

Silver_Witch

(1,820 posts)
128. HRC interrupting and talking over Mr. Stepanopoulos...
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:53 AM
Jun 2016

imagine. She has been doing it to the "little people" now he gets to see how it feels.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
132. Imperious! She looks right at the camera and flat out LIES.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:37 AM
Jun 2016

George could never call her on all of them. He asked her one thing and she deflected and came back with a whole new set of LIES. .. . . . everyone knew she was using private email.. . . . another lie the report said was not true.

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