Let this be a lesson to the Democrats..never again welcome non-Democrats into the party to do

[Jitter65]

damage. Let them all go third party if necessary.

[StayFrosty]

1. They're a fungus

[FreakinDJ]

38. Don't bemoan to us about Hillary's Email problems

[Scootaloo]

86. Wow. Dehumanization right out the gate.

[mac56]

119. Stay classy, Hillbot.

[Hortensis]

144. Very inappropriate. Bernie was allowed to run

in good part BECAUSE HE HAD DEMOCRATIC SUPPORTERS. Got it? It was never all about HIM, it was about US -- what the members of the Democratic Party want, and many wanted him.

In any case, I recommend all who agree with this nonsense remember their democratic principles and grow a tougher skin. Politics is a rough business and always has been.

[FarPoint]

2. Exactly....for running for President anyways...

Maybe need to be a practicing Democrat for 5 years to run for President...set parameters for other offices across the country...per state party to determine.

[TheCowsCameHome]

3. That's totally crazy.

Would you like Trump presidency?

[beachbumbob]

4. Never let an untrustworthy one ever again...,

Sanders has shown his real class in breaking the rules he agreed too....I hope DNC revokes all sanders credentials...

[notadmblnd]

49. I don't know if you realize this, but Hillary's record with the rules is pretty absymal too.

But don't take my word for it. Just read the IG report.

[beachbumbob]

50. When did Hillary mess with DNC rules?

[notadmblnd]

52. I'm pretty sure Hillary agreed to follow State Department rules

Or do you believe that she is exempt from following rules she agrees to?

[brush]

75. Ahhh . . . when she was SOS, she set State Department rules.

Clinton's state department is not Kerry's state department, which is one reason why there will be no indictment.

She was the boss.

[karynnj]

143. Obama was her boss and even he has rules defined by

Others. Are you suggesting that all the rules HRC IGNORED were just retroactively dreamed up by Kerry? Why is the FBI and DOJ involved?

[840high]

129. She went for the throat - national

security.

[William769]

5. Kick & highly Recommended!

[Autumn]

6. By your reasoning non-Democrats should NEVER side with the democrats, not in the House,

not in the Senate and certainly we should never ever fucking vote for any democrat. May all your dreams be realized and I wish you all the luck in the world.

Jitter65
0. Let this be a lesson to the Democrats..never again welcome non-Democrats into the party to do
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damage. Let them all go third party if necessary.

[Mnpaul]

33. Yep

next time, independents like Sanders should let bills like the ACA fall by the wayside. Why should he help the Democrats when they are so ungrateful.

[Autumn]

54. Their wish seems to be that republicans own the House, Senate and the White House

for good just to get even with one old loyal Independent Socialist who seems to have overstepped the boundary they set, for him, not for others.

[puffy socks]

108. Loyal independent?

Loyal to whom?
He and his supporter think rules don't apply to them
That ws made crystal clear throughout his campaign

[AgingAmerican]

139. He caucus'd with the Democrats for decades

[puffy socks]

146. And he did that to get a committee seat

[NanceGreggs]

76. In other words ...

... people like Sanders should vote on bills based on which party was nice to them, rather than on the merits of the bills themselves?

[puffy socks]

106. Because he's supposed to be

helping Americans NOT making things personal and being a petty childish asshole?

[Mnpaul]

111. That's funny coming from Clinton supporters

You want to give him the boot but he should be nice to you?

Its not hard to see why Republicans have taken control of both houses

[puffy socks]

112. Oh Please

Give it a rest

He refused to help Dems until he realized he couldnt get on any committees without them

Hes done nothing but bash them for years

Now he uses the DNC for his campaign Because he didnt have the infrastructure built and stabs them in the back


Bernie can go pound sand

[Mnpaul]

115. If that were true

How is it that he has the best record of voting with the party in the House and is 8th in the Senate. Yeah, he really hates the Dems.

[puffy socks]

118. Try reading his history fool

[Mnpaul]

122. Your phoney, cherry picked made up history?

no thanks, I will stick with the facts

[puffy socks]

124. Try politifact

Or his own words when CBS asked him why he was running as a dem

I know you won't because you don't want to know the truth keep your blinders on
Sad

[Mnpaul]

125. Try finding a Dem with a better voting record voting with the party in the House

I know you won't because there isn't one

[puffy socks]

147. He

is only a Dem now because he needed the infrastructure
He said so himself
Are you calling Bernie a liar?

[Jitter65]

59. Welcome to the party but you can't be our candidate for until you have been a Dem for

at least 4 years.

[Autumn]

65. Don't welcome me. I switched to Unaffiliated last year after over 40 years a dem and I will

NEVER switch back to the democratic party. Nothing would ever fucking convince me to join people like you in your party. Good luck, you'll need it...or you may get lucky and you'll get what you really want and what you are advocating for, republicans in charge. Because that's what will happen if only democrats are welcome in your party.

[puffy socks]

109. Good riddance

[GulfCoast66]

137. So it's a problem

If only Democratic Party members run the Democratic Party?

[DLCWIdem]

87. just so that the person has some sort of connection to the party so he doesn't burn it down

Frankly she made herself a hero by simply letting go and not harming the party she had that connection and knew she had a future.

[villager]

7. Agreed. The Third-Way "GOP Lite" types have done severe, near irreparable damage to Demo values. nt

[Karma13612]

132. +100 eom

[Logical]

8. Lol, what a silly post.

[MFM008]

9. Sanders is working to be very unpopular

when he goes back to the senate...

[jeff47]

25. Actually, the opposite.

Sanders now has a massive donor list.

That makes him very, very popular.

[PJMcK]

82. Perhaps not

Respectfully, jeff47, Senator Sanders' "massive donor list" should be looked at with a cold analysis. The vast majority of his donors gave very small amounts of money, i.e., less than $100. It only takes one major donor giving $1,000,000 to put those small donations into perspective. That disparity of scale makes the major donor's influence far more powerful in the donor's impact. Senator Sanders does not have very many major donors.

Additionally, his most vocal supporters have made it clear that they will not vote for the Democratic nominee unless it's the Senator. This will not endear him to the Democratic Caucus in the Senate.

[DLCWIdem]

90. not to mention that 10 million mysterious donation that's un-itemized

[jeff47]

92. Psst...can't give $1,000,000 to a campaign.

Contribution limits? What are those?

Additionally, his most vocal supporters have made it clear that they will not vote for the Democratic nominee unless it's the Senator. This will not endear him to the Democratic Caucus in the Senate.

The caucus in the senate wants cash. Sanders kept up with your $1,000,000 donors giving to Clinton until about the last month. That's a hell of a lot of donors. And votes.

There's a reason both Pelosi and Reid have refused to say anything bad about Sanders.

[Peachhead22]

133. When did our party start caring for the big donors...

...over large numbers of average people? /cry

[tecelote]

10. Agreed. Hillary should run as a Republican or third party.

Bernie is the true FDR Democrat.

[ret5hd]

16. Exactly.

[Juicy_Bellows]

27. Yep.

That's exactly right.

[FreakinDJ]

39. +1000

[farleftlib]

55. Word.

The third-wayers, especially HRC, are not Democrats and they don't support true Democratic values.

[Agony]

68. All of what you said there.

[asuhornets]

11. I agree....nt

[Lars39]

12. With Democrats being only 29% of registered voters? Very short sighted.

[Nictuku]

58. Exactly!

Some people are just not that bright (it would seem)

[Duckhunter935]

102. Very true

I guess they do not want him to caucus with Dems in the Senate either.

[nc4bo]

13. I was just thinking the same thing. Should have been thought of decades ago.

Squatters squattin'.

[napi21]

14. I disagree. All Bernie did was try to bring the Democrats back to

being DEMOCRATS! Remember the days of FDR? Social Security, breaking up the monopolies, health care, union support...

I was way to young to actually remember FDR. I was born when he wad our President. But I've heard a lot about his accomplishments and the dreams he still had for our country. Because of Bernie's popularity, it seems a lot of others haven't given up on getting our Party back to the days when they were really supporting the working man!

[nc4bo]

15. +1. nt

[nadinbrzezinski]

138. What matters to these folks is the internemtn camps

not social security. It used to be that only the Republicans brought that up in a food fight, Yes, the camps were discussed by historians. But when base party members really do not care about SS, and Medicare and the NLBR, you now we have finished the transformation.

[Trenzalore]

17. There are a few people surprised by Sanders behavior right now.

I am not one of them. He has shown a complete disinterest in the real world of politics in coalition building over his career. He's spent his entire political life in a liberal safe zone. That he is unfazed about the disaster we are facing as a nation if Donald Trump were elected should only surprise people that thought he had positive intentions in running as a democrat to begin with.

[Sky Masterson]

18. What if we were democrats and became non-Democrats

Should we be ostracized or booted from the party for the traitorous scum that we are?
Or would it be wise to find out what turned us from Democrats to non-democrats?

[Autumn]

60. We should be ostracized and never be allowed to vote for a democrat is what it looks to me.

I find it insane that any democrat would say they only want registered democrats voting in their party, Independents, Unaffiliated anyone other than democrats should go third party and leave the democrats alone. That is Fucking Insane. I know exactly what got me to go the the DMV and switch to Unaffiliated after well over 40 years a registered voting Democrat, one who volunteered in every election. But I don't think that matters to the democrats or their party. They just want us gone, I don't have another party to go to but I sure as fuck don't have to intrude on theirs. Me and my vote? We are a package deal, joined at the hip, where I don't get to go because I'm not welcome? My vote don't fucking go.

[Sky Masterson]

66. I haven't yet but I'm going to re-register as an independent.

No matter how this primary ends. I am obviously not important.
Doing what the poster suggest is a great way to become irrelevant as a party.
I barely recognize what it has become these days.

[Autumn]

72. I can assure you it is the most liberating thing I have ever done.

I left the party after Jamie Dimon was whipping votes on the senate floor at Obama's behest. When Bernie announced I went down and switched back to democrat so I could caucus for him. After he won Colorado I went down left the democratic party for the last time.

[Duckhunter935]

103. I have

[Vinca]

19. And, if that's the case, also do not beg them to caucus with the Democrats in the Senate.

Not so long ago, Bernie was every Democratic senator's BFF. He still will be if he returns to the Senate and they want to get their bill passed. Just use 'em when you need 'em, huh? Angus King take note.

[nc4bo]

22. Same with voters. The behavior is not limiting at all. nt

[Trenzalore]

23. I'm sure the Republican Party would have given the socialist from Vermont committee assignments

[Vinca]

24. Well that got him a hell of alot of respect from Democrats, didn't it?

[Trenzalore]

32. Where do you see any disrespect

He was given access to the VAN, was allowed to run for a party he was never part of.

Are you upset that a person who has spent 25+ years helping other people get elected has establishment support?

[Vinca]

37. No, I'm upset that people who claim to support Hillary continue to trash Bernie when it's clear he

won't reach the number of delegates required to be the nominee. I'm starting to think you're all Trump supporters on a mission to keep people from voting for Hillary in November.

[Trenzalore]

40. Bernie keeps saying he's taking it to the convention

I live near Philadelphia. I have no interest in him inspiring trouble during the convention for personal reasons. This being said, nobody is going to have anything but nice things to say to him if he leaves this gracefully like Hillary did in 2008.

[Autumn]

67. I'm sure republicans will cross over and vote for Hillary and the republicans are just

going to be so fucking excited to work with her in the House and the Senate.

[Trenzalore]

70. I think that is true for both

I have a republican friend at work who has nothing but nice things to say about Bernie Sanders. He is still voting for Drumpf if Bernie is the nominee.

[Surya Gayatri]

20. Massive K & R. Thanks for posting. So spot on.

[restorefreedom]

21. fewer than 30% identify now as dems. have fun with that. nt

[hobbit709]

26. This is an even bigger pile than your last one. You're getting to Apatosaurus size

[jeff47]

28. So what's your plan to win the general election with 30% of the electorate? (nt)

[Juicy_Bellows]

35. Great question.

You aren't likely to get an answer but I think it might go like this - if you don't vote for her you're voting for Trump.

If that's the best reason, we're doomed and you can bet a large swath of young people just coming to political age will be disenfranchised for a long time.

[TheCowsCameHome]

36. Plan? We don't need no steenking plan.

[Autumn]

46. The plan? Their plan seems to be to make fucking sure dems don't win.

[libdem4life]

29. Personally, and this JMO, they welcomed him in to be a foil for HRC.

Any Establishment Democratic candidates assumed it Was Her Turn...even though there does not appear to be a link to that effect. Just one of those little tidbits that got repeated and repeated and ....

What better than a Frumpy, Grumpy, Socialist, Old Jewish Guy from some state near Russia where the molasses flows or something.

It really would have been a boring Primary with just Daily Notes From Hillary. What they did not expect, was the strong portion of the party that wasn't All Into Hillary or even a Little Bit. Either new or formerly disgusted stay-at-home voters, the Left, the Progressives, Anything Left of Center...fall into that category.

Nor did they factor in the "little review" that was going on at the time. Pffft. Cue the flick off the dandruff gif.

They were clued into the server during Benghazi, but it was pretty well hidden by State...nothing to see here.

Fast forward. We actually have democracy in progress (big emphasis on the little d) as we now move into uncharted territory. A BFD full FBI Investigation, lots of cover-ups and other things that would put Nixon's crew to shame. Meanwhile, the Old Tortoise plugging along while the Hare stops along the way to figure out what to do with Trump.

I have no idea what will transpire, but I'd bet money it won't be any traditional-type ending. And let's face it...such has been The Clinton's history...not your average American family. I really think Bernie just kind of stumbled into it...but rose to the occasion pretty darn well.

And he's far from being done. He may have found his calling...Revolutions never end with the first battle...won or lost. But the course has been charted.

[CherokeeDem]

31. Amen to this!!!!

This should have never happened.

[Eric J in MN]

34. That policy would mean more Ralph Nader in 2000 results. NT

NT

[Rex]

42. Beat me to it. nt

nt

[FreakinDJ]

41. Sad part is 3rd Wayers try to pass theirselves off as Democrats

you have Bill Clinton to thank for that

[TCJ70]

43. God forbid we have choices, right?

And one that leans left no less!

[yallerdawg]

44. Party platform and DNC revisions must include...

"Sanders Rule" - must be a Democrat at least 4 years prior to filing for presidential election cycle.

"It's my party, and I'll bar if I want too..."

[Logical]

45. The whine is strong in this one. nt

[nadinbrzezinski]

47. Yeah let;s do that

and while at it, prevent those voters from voting in the General (would require a few changes in the law) but let's

Then you and the Republicans can implode.

Ah the party of the big tent is folding the big tent.

Oh and don't worry, I will not be joining your party anytime soon, for the same reason I got absolutely fed up with Republicans in 2002 on the AOL boards. So enjoy your party as it will continue to shrink. A lot of the new sigh ups are going back to independents as soon as they vote. Though I hear there is a bunch of conservative republcians who will be joining your party. I do not expect you to have an issue with that.

[PFunk1]

77. My thoughts exactly-infact it's already happening

And the third-way/DNC dems have been actively encouraging it for decades now.

[notadmblnd]

48. You're absolutely right.

People like Bill and Hillary Clinton, along with people like Debbie Wasserman Shultz should have never been allowed into the Democratic party. Just look at all the damage the've done. All but destroyed the democratic principles we were all taught growing up.

[Broward]

51. Enough with the impostors. Time for the right-wingers to get the hell out.

[wendylaroux]

53. change is good,peoples cages need to be rattled

when they become too much like what they used to be against.

[Cascadian]

56. So much for the Big Tent Party. (n/t)

[LP2K12]

57. Way to make some of us feel unwelcome....

At 18, I graduated high school and registered Republican and voted for Bush.

After enlisting and getting real life experience under my belt, I changed my party to democrat.

I voted for Obama twice.

I voted for Sanders in the Michigan primary.

I'm willing to vote for Clinton even though I support Sanders, but snarky posts like this really turn me off...

[Nictuku]

61. I can't agree with you more LP2K12

So much so that I plan on leaving the Democratic party after this election. Other than the one time I voted for Ross Perot, I have never voted for anyone other than a Democrat, but the DNC has soured me on the Party. I'll be changing to Independent after this election, in search for what was once touted as Democratic Values.

Anyone remember Ross Perot? (that big giant sucking sound you will hear are jobs and factories leaving America - His response to Clinton's NAFTA). Looking back, I'd have to say he was prophetic. Just as Bernie was (and is, in terms of the TPP)

[lbp]

91. Bingo

I've been a registered Dem since 96; voted for Clinton (even though my state went to Dole).

I also voted for Sanders this primary but TX went to HRC.

I'm not one to be easily rattled by anonymous posters on a left wing blog but this primary has me second-guessing my party affiliation. Maybe I'm just too darned liberal for my party.

[mac56]

120. They don't want us to feel welcome.

They've made that clear for months now.

They don't need our stinking votes, unless we bow down and accept the inevitable.

[AgingAmerican]

62. Way to GOTV and expand the party!

Hillary style....

[Cheese Sandwich]

63. k/r

[Contrary1]

64. Then don't ask for their votes...

and don't go begging money from Republicans to fund your campaign.

[Agony]

69. Say goodbye then to the 1/2 of Democratic voters that voted for Bernie in this primary

[Bluenorthwest]

71. This bullshit harms your candidate and this Party. I think that is your objective.

nt

[TheFarseer]

73. That's the lesson you learned?!

We should just unquestioningly eat up whatever the establishment is feeding us with a fork and spoon? And you should give up right away when it looks like someone else has a better chance of winning?

[Fumesucker]

74. I think you need to purify the party

Throw out all the backsliders and the hesitators, only true believers allowed. Perhaps some small membership fee to get rid of the riffraff and those not truly serious, say one thousand a month.

Yes, only when you have reached a sufficient level of purity can you then achieve electoral nirvana.

[JonathanRackham]

80. Purify the party?

My ancestors from Poland in WWII would be proud of that statement, NOT.

[mac56]

121. Are you sarcasm impaired?

[jamese777]

78. Both major parties

have always had a left, a center, and a right since their founding. That's the way it always has been and that's the way it always will be. Anyone who joins the Democratic Party is a Democrat.
Deal with it.
The ideological tensions between left, right and center is healthy for a party.

[rateyes]

79. When did YOU join the Democrats?

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Me? I joined in 1978, when I turned 18. Gonna be leaving the day after the convention, because of newbies like you and third wayers who either don't have a clue what a real Democrat is or don't care. If the party doesn't go back to its new deal ways, I hope we take it down and build a real Dem party to take its place. That will be my effort.

[kiva]

81. And the same for voters.

If they're not registered Democrats, they shouldn't be allowed to vote for a Democrat in November

[sheshe2]

83. You just got a 0-7 Leave!!!!!

[George II]

99. And someone who called him a "shit stirrer" got a 6-1 HIDE

On Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:19 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

From day 1
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2133619

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Calling posters a troll has always gotten a hide. So this post should be hidden.

JURY RESULTS

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Explanation: Unbelievable personal attack. This has got to stop!!!!!!
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[sheshe2]

100. Oh my.

That was one nasty comment.

Bwahahahaha. We are doing good! Thank you George. 0-7 and a 1-6....

[Paladin]

84. Amen. (nt)

[Number23]

85. THIS will be Sanders' true legacy to the Democratic Party

This and the number of states with caucuses that are now moving to primaries. He should be so, so proud.

[DesertRat]

88. I agree. k&r

[guillaumeb]

89. "never again welcome non-Democrats into the party to do..........."

This damage that you speak of......is that code for deviation from the corporate type Democrats that are currently in charge?

So all you want are corporate clones? Clones who will further convince voters that there is little substantive difference between DLC types and the GOP?

Be careful what you wish for.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

93. And, they call us "purists".

[QC]

95. "We will never get past the primary if sore winners choose to keep trashing Bernie Sanders."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1259&pid=10561

[William769]

96. The alert on your post is pricerless!

As you might have guessed the jury was on your side.

[cui bono]

97. YEAH!!!

Only people who are BORN as registered Dems are allowed!!!

NEVER let anyone change their mind and join the party. Because that's what ruined it in the first place. I mean Hillary was a Goldwater girl and now she's a Dem. Fuck that. And all the Dems who vote for Republican policies are just great because guess what? They weren't ever not Dems! Yeah!

The time has come to judge people NOT their merits, but according to their label. Fuck substance. ENOUGH WITH PRINCIPLES!!!

WE CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!

GIVE US LABELS OR GIVE US DEATH!!!

.

[Hydra]

98. I assume you are speaking for the party leadership, being an official Team Hill member

Inviting the Bush Admin into the party and asking the rest of us to leave is an interesting move. The Bush Admin had to steal two elections to get it due to a sickly but solid 25-30% voter support. Is that the new plan?

[sadoldgirl]

101. How very astute from a newcomer! Congrats to alienating

40-45% of democrats.

The "PARTY" did not expect that Bernie would be
able to wake up the people, especially those under 45 years
of age. However, you are more than willing to lose them by
claiming the same old garbage we heard before: "Where else
can they go?!!"
I got news for you: They won't go your way at all! They will
form a new movement away from your party's policies, and
a lot of independents will join them.

At 29% of all registered voters this idea of yours will be
serving "your" party very well I suppose. I think a lot of younger
people will run for office as independents.

If you have not understood the result in the repug party, you
have missed the mood of the country!

[JimDandy]

105. Hi. We agree.

[JimDandy]

104. So many of us long-time former Dems who recently left the Party agree.

[cui bono]

113. So does this Dem who re-registered just to vote for the REAL Dem!

I left the party when the other Clinton acted like a moderate Republican. And will leave again if the same thing happens.

.

[redstateblues]

128. You weren't going to vote Democratic anyway

We'll win it without you

[cui bono]

135. May I see your psychic's credentials?

How much do you charge for palm reading?

Do you have neon signs or hand painted outside your apartment? I want to be sure I can find you when I want to hear more made up nonsense.

.

[SDJay]

107. Fantastic Point...

Small tent, stale ideas... that's the way to go for sure. I mean, just look at how membership with the repukes has exploded since they took that approach.

Oy.

[geek tragedy]

110. Disagree strongly.

They are always welcome in my opinion. They just have to register as Democrats.

[Tragl1]

114. I think this is troll bait

Seriously, what a false narrative.

[HooptieWagon]

116. Yep. Nader worked out so well.

And he only pulled 2.5% as a third party candidate.whatcha gonna do with a third party candidate that's pulling 25-30% from the left? Do y'all even think?

[Sheepshank]

117. From the day he entered the race, I knew he would hurt the Democrats.

Tough lesson confirmed.

[cui bono]

136. He has HELPED the Dems. He has gotten more people registered to the party who

would never have registered as Dem if it had only had a corporate candidate as a viable option.

If you want to know who really hurt the Democrats you can look back to when they embraced the DLC. Guess who did that? Bill Clinton. He invited corporate funding to the party and that is what has hurt the Democrats.

Sanders has invigorated a campaign that would have been as boring as paint drying if Hillary had gotten the nomination just after it got started. Look at the crowds he has generated, how is that hurting Democrats?

The right wing of the party is just going to either get used the the left refusing to be sidelined anymore or they're going to have to get used to having about half the membership it has now because the people are fed up and Bernie has shown we don't need to be beholden to corporate money.

We're sick of that shit and we want the party to go back to its roots, where Bernie is trying to take it. This Third Way/DLC/neo-liberal shit has not only damaged the party - perhaps beyond repair if Hillary is the nominee - but it has damaged our very democracy by compromising the one party that actually used to defend it.

Looks to me like you think Hillary is going to lose somewhere down the line and you're just setting up to blame Bernie and his supporters. You can blame all Hillary's missteps and hubris for any demise she may encounter.

.

[jpmonk91]

123. But

Bernie is a democrat fighting on the senate for our rights for years.

[bkkyosemite]

126. Never again let any one into the Dem Party that TELLS THE TRUTH IS FOR THE AVERAGE

AMERICAN IS FOR THE RIGHTS OF THE MIDDLE CLASS AND DOES NOT WANT ANY MORE OLIGARCHY NOR ELITE CONTROL OF THE MASSES... Time for the Party to change their ways.

[Trust Buster]

127. Neither the DNC or the RNC understood the full ramifications of Citizens United.

Running as an Independent has always been a long shot. But, Citizens United has now made running as an Independent impossible. Both parties should have anticipated Trojan horse candidates for that very reason. The parties should require that a candidate be registered with the party for a minimal amount of time in order to have access to the infrastructure.

[840high]

130. Trash

[Peachhead22]

131. You mean kinda like how Trump wants to ban Muslims...

...from entering the country?

Inclusiveness and diversity of ideas is a good thing, not a bad thing. Besides, good luck winning elections, if we're going to start driving independents away.

[bjo59]

134. Ha ha. The only reason they invited him in was because they thought he had no chance.

It always looks better if there are a number of candidates at the beginning of primary season; you know, to make it all look a little more democratic. The Democratic Party got a big surprise with Bernie Sanders and, unfortunately for them, they gave him a great position from which to organize so many people in this country. If he'd run third party, he wouldn't have gotten to debate and he wouldn't have gotten even the grudging exposure in the mainstream media that he has gotten. Yep, the Democratic Party goofed up and huge numbers of people in this country are very thankful for that! Very thankful.

[avaistheone1]

140. Damage? Sanders has shaken the Democratic party in the most healthy of ways.

Change even when it is for the best is difficult for some people to take.

Go Bernie!!!!!!!!

[hobbit709]

141. So what you're telling everyone is this?

[Buns_of_Fire]

142. I'm thinking that a solemn, tasteful initiation to The Party should be required.

Along with a certified net worth of at least $5 million. Gotta keep the riff raff out to maintain our Purity of Essence and prevent the contamination of our Precious Bodily Fluids.

[karynnj]

145. You are not helping HRC unite the party behind her with this

What does it say that rather than whole heartedly enjoying the victories of your candidate that you are filled with anger?

No matter how much you hate Sanders and people who support him, you should recognize that HRC needs the very people you are trashing to win. I do not get the need you and several others have not just to defeat Sanders, which was always a near sure thing, but to destroy him.

There may have been a few who were exuberant that with Obama winning the dominance of the Clintons in the Democratic party was over, but that never reached the fever pitch I see now - and that was extreme compared to past contests. I really saw no similar posts blasting Kuchinich for staying in until the 2004 convention.

Part of going to General Election mode, when we do, realistically has to be to heal the divisions in addition to getting behind the candidate. These attacks hurt that effort.

You and others may succeed in driving out the impure Sanders supporters, but consider if you really want to do that. You need their votes AND they might just represent the long term future of the party. Consider that with a very unlikely nominee, a 74 year old democratic socialist they were in the contest up to the last month of contests. It indicates that there is space for a future race from the left.

[tk2kewl]

148. .

[BuelahWitch]

149. Yes, DWS should quit running Republicans for Democratic seats

No more Red to Blue program!

[Kermitt Gribble]

150. You're right. Dems shouldn't have allowed the republican DLC in to the Party decades ago. eom

[highprincipleswork]

152. Exactly. Let's get rid of all them Neoliberal Dems and have a real Democratic Party for the people.

[Urchin]

153. I bet if Sanders were running as third party candidate

He'd win the presidency.

I wonder why he wanted to run as a democrat to begin with.