If you lie about me and others concerning our motivations

[mmonk]

which are genuine and from the heart because we want to improve the lives and experiences of everyone in this country, your chances of winning my vote should your candidate win are slim to none. To lie about the very essence of someone and their heart is an assault on their soul. I wish you all a great evening.

[wendylaroux]

1. yup,100% agree.

[MFM008]

2. If Sanders is out

you would consider voting for HRC ? Probably not. As far as accusations ,im accused of taking money from David Brock.
So we have our crosses to bear.

[Kentonio]

5. If you're cheerleading for him for free, that's even more depressing.

[cui bono]

6. ...

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[GreatGazoo]

12. One of the many reasons that the $1 mil pro-Hillary troll budget was a bad idea is that

it has eroded the credibility of REAL Hillary supporters.

http://usuncut.com/politics/clinton-super-pac-busted/

[SpareribSP]

13. I'd make an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind reference here

But just reflecting on it, it's not even like that. The David Brock attack is because you have a candidate who blatantly propagandizes, and they deliberately muddied the waters themselves in a way that's not okay and needs to be pushed back against. You're just simply wrong here.

[Hortensis]

3. I want the same things.

The biggest and most frequent lie by far is that that is not true.

[cui bono]

7. If you are supporting Hillary and want the same things as a Bernie supporter

then you are supporting the wrong candidate. The differences could not be more stark.

.

[Hortensis]

15. Imo, perspective is severely lacking. Bernie's

ideals are all old, well established liberal Democrat ideals. Nothing new at all. During a period of transition from conservative ascendance to liberal, Bernie is really different only in that he (very unrealistically) promises to be able to do more of what Hillary intends faster than she believes we can accomplish.

[cui bono]

16. You are right that "Bernie's ideals are all old, well established liberal Democrat ideals".

But where you are incorrect is that Hillary and Bernie are fighting for the same things.

She's not going to take on Wall Street, which is our biggest problem. She's not going to try to overturn Citizen's United. She's a warhawk. She's not going to try for single-payer health care.

Hillary is Third Way/DLC. Bill Clinton embraced the DLC way of turning to corporate funding for the party and that is a fundamental difference between Bernie and Hillary. As you said, "Bernie's ideals are all old, well established liberal Democrat ideals". Unfortunately, Hillary's ideals are Third Way/DLC ideals and far from the "old, well established liberal Democrat ideals". Her stances are moderate Republican stances. Just like Obama, and he admitted that, he called himself a "moderate Republican". You simply cannot be fighting for the same things when one is beholden to the very entity the other is fighting against.

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[Old Codger]

4. Ditto

What he said...

[qdouble]

8. If we play nice will all the BOBers vote for Hillary? I doubt it. Stop with the woe is me bullshit.

[Cali_Democrat]

9. I will not be actively courting Bernie supporters.

I honestly don't care who you guys vote for in the general election.

Vote for a ham sandwich if you want to.

I don't care.

[Hydra]

10. They are pushing hard for Cali to not happen

And for this not to make it to convention. I smell terror yet again, and the arguments are laughable. We're all sexists again, and don't appreciate how Hillary is exactly what we are looking for.

[Tarc]

11. You vote isn't wanted

The Bernie or Busters are an insignificant minority. The bulk of the Sanders voters across the country will vote D in the fall.

It's a hard pill to swallow, but you just aren't the core/base of the party that you think you are.

[nadinbrzezinski]

14. Yup and they have done far worst than that

[bigtree]

17. likewise

...just love these posts which suppose Sanders support is virtuous and all others trying to keep all of that down.

Every Clinton voter carries their own hopes and reams for the future into the voting booth. The opposition to them has been full of lies and insult: "low-information voter, establishment, Brock, etc."

Your camp is a victim of less support. That's it. There are enough hurt feeling in this election to go around. Don't suppose all the vitriol and invective is directed just at you.