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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:21 PM Jun 2016

Bill Clinton: Sanders Supporters 'Will Be Toast’

June 05, 2016, 06:43 pm

“If I were them, I’d be screaming too because they know they will be toast by election day,” Clinton said, according to a Fox News reporter at the event.


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#BillClinton to @BernieSanders hecklers: "If I were them I'd be screaming too bc they know they will be toast by election day."


Bill Clinton was in East Los Angeles on Sunday campaigning ahead of the California primary on Tuesday.

The former secretary of State is in a tight race there with the Vermont senator.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/282287-bill-clinton-to-sanders-supporters-they-will-be-toast
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Bill Clinton: Sanders Supporters 'Will Be Toast’ (Original Post) Purveyor Jun 2016 OP
Yup, the Clintons vicious vindictiveness is notorious. No surprise he's hating on "enemies". riderinthestorm Jun 2016 #1
^this !!!! ^ Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #60
unfortunate choice of words, even Bill hasn't the reach to punish -all- Sanders supporters HereSince1628 Jun 2016 #2
it doesn't even make sense really -- why say BY election day? GreatGazoo Jun 2016 #55
I chalk it up to the old game of us vs them. HereSince1628 Jun 2016 #57
Toast is it??? PatrickforO Jun 2016 #3
lol, platform woolldog Jun 2016 #6
While I would certainly agree were this 2008 or 2012, now in 2016 after Bernie has PatrickforO Jun 2016 #10
You mean, if the phrase "stick it to the oligarchy" makes it into the platform, Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #47
In context, he's basically saying they can scream all they want, but it changes nothing. BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #4
So in other words, he took the bait. Miles Archer Jun 2016 #12
They heckled him, and he rightly called them losers. Another drummed-up nontroversy from BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #15
"They heckled him, and he rightly called them losers" Peachhead22 Jun 2016 #42
It was petulant, it was childish, it was "unpresidential," and... Miles Archer Jun 2016 #49
So in other words, he took the bait. Miles Archer Jun 2016 #50
Bill always berates protesters, here he is in '92 castigating an AIDS activist who had a few months Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #54
"according to a Fox News reporter at the event" TwilightZone Jun 2016 #32
Thanks for the context LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #43
New here eh? dreamnightwind Jun 2016 #53
What's your point? Does DU not want new members? BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #58
Your sign-up date is conspicuous dreamnightwind Jun 2016 #59
I have nothing to say to someone like you that would not be immediately hidden. BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #63
Exactly LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #70
what an arrogant ass. bbgrunt Jun 2016 #5
Exactly. Owl Jun 2016 #9
Yup. That says it all. farleftlib Jun 2016 #17
What is the word I am looking for? hmmm nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #7
I really wish he would shut the fuck up. MadBadger Jun 2016 #8
Now, now... Bjornsdotter Jun 2016 #37
His record speaks for itself. Miles Archer Jun 2016 #11
Accurate. New Jersey will make California moot early on Tuesday. onehandle Jun 2016 #13
And miss all the wailing and gnashing of teeth on GDP? BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #14
Gotta rest up for the convention here. onehandle Jun 2016 #18
That's very true KingFlorez Jun 2016 #16
bye yourself. magical thyme Jun 2016 #69
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #19
. PeaceNikki Jun 2016 #38
So much for wanting to unify the party icecreamfan Jun 2016 #20
exactly! how incredibly not helpful renate Jun 2016 #68
Tell Bubba to STFU....if he keeps chirping,... Segami Jun 2016 #21
Nice way to talk about roughly half the Democratic Party. highprincipleswork Jun 2016 #22
How very fucking impressive Bill Autumn Jun 2016 #23
But they don't need us WolverineDG Jun 2016 #40
They sure as hell will 840high Jun 2016 #52
Such sweet, comforting, healing words. How could anyone resist? Buns_of_Fire Jun 2016 #24
Bernie is done. Stick a fork in him nt arely staircase Jun 2016 #25
Oh Bill FFS UMTerp01 Jun 2016 #26
Shut up, asshole. BlueStater Jun 2016 #27
whose toast MFM008 Jun 2016 #28
Sourdough, I hope! villager Jun 2016 #29
"according to a Fox News reporter at the event" TwilightZone Jun 2016 #30
NYT Says Hillary Likes Fox News & RElies on their Pundit 4 Advice amborin Jun 2016 #36
That article says nothing about Clinton liking Fox News. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #39
You seem to be missing the point somewhat. Kentonio Jun 2016 #61
+1000 nt ProudProgressiveNow Jun 2016 #45
Good thing Bull isn't posting on DU. JEB Jun 2016 #31
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #33
Once again Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #34
and then will act all butt-hurt WolverineDG Jun 2016 #41
amazing, isn't it? restorefreedom Jun 2016 #46
Even his "slam" is still in the 90's PowerToThePeople Jun 2016 #35
fuck you, bill. restorefreedom Jun 2016 #44
How's that HillBilly "two-fer" looking now, Camp Weathervane? Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #48
Stay Classy Bill DonCoquixote Jun 2016 #51
Aren't Sanders supporters so proud of the way Bernie always says "we" when referring StevieM Jun 2016 #56
TOAST Does Not VOTE in General Elections John Poet Jun 2016 #62
I wish I could Bill on Ignore. Hiraeth Jun 2016 #64
"Where else will they go" part two. VulgarPoet Jun 2016 #65
Disbarred lawyer says what? SwampG8r Jun 2016 #66
...he said on his way to the next Wall Street fundraiser. Orsino Jun 2016 #67

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
55. it doesn't even make sense really -- why say BY election day?
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:58 PM
Jun 2016

Would it not make more sense to say "ON election day" or "on Tuesday" ?

If he really did say it, then it is yet another of the odd Clinton statements of 2016. Bill remarked about the "awful legacy of the last 8 years" and it seems a similar type of mistake -- timing:

If Bill meant the gridlock of a GOP congress then that happened 5 years ago. If he meant the entire Obama vs GOP that is 7 years.

What happened "8 years" ago was Hillary dropped out of the race. He seems to have caught his own mistake as he adds "and the 7 years before that" but it still odd to lump in the first 2 years of the Obama adminstration when we had congress.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/bill-clinton-trashes-obama-awful-legacy-of-the-last-eight-years/article/2001665

PatrickforO

(14,570 posts)
3. Toast is it???
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:24 PM
Jun 2016

We'd better have some MAJOR input in the platform and Clinton had better not veer right. Because I've had enough of Democrats who are only liberal on social issues, but continue to promote policies that suck our tax monies away from doing things that make our lives better only to give them to Wall Street and the MIC.

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
6. lol, platform
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:27 PM
Jun 2016

...like that will matter. Clinton is going to govern the way she sees fit. And that's the way it should be.

Whats written in a platform doesn't mean a thing.

PatrickforO

(14,570 posts)
10. While I would certainly agree were this 2008 or 2012, now in 2016 after Bernie has
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:31 PM
Jun 2016

spent months elevating the conversation, I'm not so sure. This time, maybe the platform won't be quite so meaningless.

And it shouldn't be meaningless. It should be a set of assertions that will guide members of our party as they move forward in office.

But, there is 'the way things ARE,' and there is 'the way things ought to be.'

Where are we, and who are we, that we so readily toss out the 'ought to be???'

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
47. You mean, if the phrase "stick it to the oligarchy" makes it into the platform,
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:29 PM
Jun 2016

there won't be any practical implications?

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
4. In context, he's basically saying they can scream all they want, but it changes nothing.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:25 PM
Jun 2016

But I don't think the OP is worried about a little thing like "context" though...

ETA: "Former President Bill Clinton did not mince his words when Bernie Sanders supporters heckled him during a campaign event for Hillary Clinton." So, it's not like it happened in a bubble or anything. Again, something the OP probably didn't want brought into the discussion, otherwise it would have been included in the OP.

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
15. They heckled him, and he rightly called them losers. Another drummed-up nontroversy from
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:39 PM
Jun 2016

Camp Complain.

Peachhead22

(1,078 posts)
42. "They heckled him, and he rightly called them losers"
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:18 PM
Jun 2016

How very Trumpian of him. Pres. Clinton and all HRC supporters and the entire DNC need to realize that they're going to NEED Bernie supporters in the GE. Not just their votes, most will toe the line after the convention if Hillary is our candidate.

But Hillary, et al will also NEED their donations, their perspective, their time, their hard work, their enthusiasm and their energy. And Hillary's not going to automatically get that because "party unity!", especially if so many keep taking digs at people who support Bernie at the moment.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
49. It was petulant, it was childish, it was "unpresidential," and...
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:27 PM
Jun 2016

...Clinton will not be elected President in November strictly by the number of voters who are in her corner right now.

I see no chance of anything but the smallest possible percentage of Republican voters crossing over from Trump.

I am not familiar with her standing among Independents, but I have to believe there is division there rather than overwhelming support.

And Democrats? Go a head and insult the Sanders supporters, Mr. President. You will not win without them.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
54. Bill always berates protesters, here he is in '92 castigating an AIDS activist who had a few months
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:56 PM
Jun 2016

to live and the courage to speak out:



That's Camp Clinton from the get go.

TwilightZone

(25,457 posts)
32. "according to a Fox News reporter at the event"
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:59 PM
Jun 2016

The OP managed to include this useful information, however.

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
53. New here eh?
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:49 PM
Jun 2016

About BobbyDrake

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BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
58. What's your point? Does DU not want new members?
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:40 AM
Jun 2016

Or maybe I was supposed to know DU existed before I heard about it?

Your argument is ignorant.

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
59. Your sign-up date is conspicuous
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:31 AM
Jun 2016

about the same time as a number of paid Brock trolls showed up to post for Hillary.

Not ignorant at all.

If you're just a sincere Hillary supporter who coincidentally joined at that time, welcome. If you're one of the trolls, I hope your stay here is very short.

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
63. I have nothing to say to someone like you that would not be immediately hidden.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:56 AM
Jun 2016

Feel free to use your imagination.

And if you think you're the DU membership police, think again.

Welcome to my Ignore list, btw.

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
17. Yup. That says it all.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:42 PM
Jun 2016

He used to be quite diplomatic, but from all the arrogant and mean-spirited things he
has been saying lately I wonder if he's thinking he's the one who'll be going away soon.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
7. What is the word I am looking for? hmmm
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:29 PM
Jun 2016

let me think... E... EEENNNN... ENTITLEMENT, yup that's it.

But what I said earlier in the day will fall on deaf ears. Mr. President own the bed you are making

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
11. His record speaks for itself.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:31 PM
Jun 2016

If it hadn't been for his escapades, George W. Bush's major campaign hook...that he would "restore honor and dignity to the White House"...never would have existed.

To me, he has been more of a liability than an asset on this current campaign.

There is less of a need for Sanders supporters to be "toast" and more of a need, if it comes to that, to vote for his wife.

This kind of rhetoric won't lead to that.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
13. Accurate. New Jersey will make California moot early on Tuesday.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:35 PM
Jun 2016

Going to hit the hay early that night.

(Puerto Rico might make Tuesday moot tonight)

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
14. And miss all the wailing and gnashing of teeth on GDP?
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:37 PM
Jun 2016

You're going to sleep right through Peak Victimhood though.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
18. Gotta rest up for the convention here.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:42 PM
Jun 2016

Nothing is more important that defeating that orange, impotent, hairless, racist, non-billionaire.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
69. bye yourself.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:19 PM
Jun 2016

and practice saying "President Trump" because if she's the nominee, that will be the end result.

Response to Purveyor (Original post)

icecreamfan

(115 posts)
20. So much for wanting to unify the party
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:45 PM
Jun 2016

He's saying this despite the massive lead HRC has. I guess the Clintons mean it.

renate

(13,776 posts)
68. exactly! how incredibly not helpful
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:08 PM
Jun 2016

I don't mind Hillary (i.e., I'll vote for her), but Bill is just gross.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
21. Tell Bubba to STFU....if he keeps chirping,...
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:45 PM
Jun 2016

...Hillary might decide to give him another black eye.

 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
22. Nice way to talk about roughly half the Democratic Party.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:45 PM
Jun 2016

I recommend inclusion.

Fully expected most Democrats to welcome Bernie's brand of New Deal Democratic values. Welcome them still.

Autumn

(45,049 posts)
23. How very fucking impressive Bill
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:47 PM
Jun 2016
Sanders Supporters 'Will Be Toast’ And these people will be fucking begging for Sanders supporters votes the following week. The fucking nerve.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
27. Shut up, asshole.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:54 PM
Jun 2016

Are YOU running or is your wife? It's bad enough I have to put up with her bullshit. I don't need yours as well. Go away and watch some porn or something and stay off the campaign trail.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
29. Sourdough, I hope!
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:56 PM
Jun 2016

I'll take mine with a little butter and jam, while watching the country continue to unravel...

amborin

(16,631 posts)
36. NYT Says Hillary Likes Fox News & RElies on their Pundit 4 Advice
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:03 PM
Jun 2016

"Hillary's "Greatest Influence" on Military Issues, a Fox News Pundit Who Makes Money From War"


http://gawker.com/meet-hillary-clintons-greatest-influence-on-military-1772539756



Meet Hillary Clinton's "Greatest Influence" on Military Issues, a Fox News Pundit Who Makes Money From War


A profile of Hillary Clinton in the latest issue of the New York Times Magazine makes the case, convincingly, that the Democratic frontrunner is the most hawkish candidate in the race, from her upbringing as the daughter of a Navy training officer to her disagreements, as secretary of state, with President Obama over use of force. The piece outlines her relationships with several powerful current and former members of the military, and notes that the “single greatest influence” on her thinking about the military is a retired George W. Bush-era four-star general named Jack Keane.

How Hillary Clinton Became a Hawk

Throughout her career she has displayed instincts on foreign policy that are more aggressive than…
Read more nytimes.​com

Fox News viewers may recognize Keane as one of the network’s frequently consulted military analysts, a role he has used to call withdrawal from Iraq a “disaster,” to argue against closing Guantanamo Bay, and to call a 2014 Pentagon report on climate change evidence of a “misguided priority” in the Obama administration.

While campaigning for president, Clinton has called out Bernie Sanders for his criticisms of President Obama, despite her own frequent disagreements with the president on foreign policy issues. She has positioned herself as the candidate who would carry on the president’s legacy if elected. As the Times Magazine profile notes, she has said in national security speeches that her plans for dealing with threats in the Middle East represent an “intensification and acceleration” of the president’s, not a clean break from them.

But Keane, who has informally advised Clinton on military affairs for 15 years, dispenses tough-guy criticisms of the president regularly....

http://gawker.com/meet-hillary-clintons-greatest-influence-on-military-1772539756
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TwilightZone

(25,457 posts)
39. That article says nothing about Clinton liking Fox News.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:11 PM
Jun 2016

He also started advising her when he was second-in-command in the Army, more than a decade before he was ever on Fox News.

Do you even read the crap you post?

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
61. You seem to be missing the point somewhat.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 05:15 AM
Jun 2016

The fact that he has been advising her for more than a decade, and his views were hawkish enough to get him a spot on FOX news isn't a good thing..

Response to Purveyor (Original post)

WolverineDG

(22,298 posts)
41. and then will act all butt-hurt
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:13 PM
Jun 2016

when we take them up on their offer.

It's always like this with bullies.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
46. amazing, isn't it?
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:20 PM
Jun 2016

its like they are begging us not to vote for her.

no begging needed for me...i am done

#bernieorbust
#neverhillary
#fuckunity

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
48. How's that HillBilly "two-fer" looking now, Camp Weathervane?
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:37 PM
Jun 2016

Bill's losing it at a pretty damn rapid rate. Should Hillary gain the White House, his very, very public decay is going to be cringeworthy.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
51. Stay Classy Bill
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:35 PM
Jun 2016

Hey, remember how your big, racist slur dropping mouth Cost Hillary the last time? If Debbie Wasserman Schulz were competent, she would be pouring you a nice big cup of STFU before you crash your wife's chances AGAIN. Do keep in mind, the more you run your mouth like some Frat Boy, the more you remind people that you will be an albatross around Hillary's neck. This is one election where many will NOT want what you once coined as a "package deal." Many voters will go "I'll take the Hillary Burger, but hold the Billy fries, they get me sick."

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
56. Aren't Sanders supporters so proud of the way Bernie always says "we" when referring
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:03 PM
Jun 2016

to his campaign?

Bill was referring to Bernie's campaign. Period.

But this is a good example of how SBS supporters are always looking for an opportunity to identify a supposed wrongdoing.

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
62. TOAST Does Not VOTE in General Elections
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:47 AM
Jun 2016

Bill, you're such a fucking moron now....

maybe you should go look for that kitchen sink



VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
65. "Where else will they go" part two.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 10:01 AM
Jun 2016

There are so many options. We've been getting told by the Clinton campaign for the past three months what we can go do, where we can go do it, and what we can go do it with. I hope he's not surprised when we do promptly that, and leave the Democratic party to its corporate, neoliberal pseudo-reich wing takeover.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
67. ...he said on his way to the next Wall Street fundraiser.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:06 PM
Jun 2016

The Big Dawg used to have the decency to triangulate and waffle. I wonder how much money it took to get him blurting just anything?

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