Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:53 PM
truedelphi (32,324 posts)
Bernie Sanders is a Senator from Vermont. He has no power in Puerto Rico!
The Establishment Candidate, one Hillary Clinton, has deep ties through her promotion of the military/industrial complex to sway the media.
The lies being told from the Corporate-controlled media and from the DNC are exactly what we progressives can expect!
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truedelphi | Jun 2016 | OP |
hrmjustin | Jun 2016 | #1 | |
virtualobserver | Jun 2016 | #3 | |
hrmjustin | Jun 2016 | #7 | |
truedelphi | Jun 2016 | #11 | |
truedelphi | Jun 2016 | #16 | |
azurnoir | Jun 2016 | #17 | |
Doctor Jack | Jun 2016 | #2 | |
bravenak | Jun 2016 | #4 | |
brooklynite | Jun 2016 | #5 | |
truedelphi | Jun 2016 | #12 | |
annavictorious | Jun 2016 | #6 | |
RBInMaine | Jun 2016 | #8 | |
Agnosticsherbet | Jun 2016 | #9 | |
truedelphi | Jun 2016 | #13 | |
truedelphi | Jun 2016 | #15 | |
brush | Jun 2016 | #10 | |
truedelphi | Jun 2016 | #14 |
Response to truedelphi (Original post)
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:54 PM
hrmjustin (71,265 posts)
1. The DNC is not making the claim.
Response to hrmjustin (Reply #1)
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:58 PM
virtualobserver (8,760 posts)
3. I'm losing respect for you....I knew that you were a Hillary partisan, but....
Bernie has no power over the Democratic Party of Puerto Rico.
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Response to virtualobserver (Reply #3)
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:59 PM
hrmjustin (71,265 posts)
7. Your opinion is of no concern of mine.
And the DNC did not make the claim.
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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #7)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:26 AM
truedelphi (32,324 posts)
11. Who did then?
But here is what Sanders is stating about the matter:
Sanders Campaign Statement on Puerto Rico Polling Places U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders’ campaign issued the following statement Sunday on long lines at polling places in Puerto Rico’s Democratic Party presidential primary election: “Some Puerto Rico Democratic officials are claiming that the Sanders campaign requested fewer polling places in today’s primary contest. That’s completely false. The opposite is true. In emails with the party, Sanders’ staff asked the party to maintain the 1,500 plus presidential primary locations promised by the Puerto Rico Democratic party in testimony before the DNC in April, when the party was asking to have its caucus changed to a primary. They cannot blame their shoddy running of the primary on our campaign. This is just one example of irregularities going on in Puerto Rico voting today. We are the campaign that has been fighting to increase voter participation.” https://berniesanders.com/press-release/sanders-campaign-statement-puerto-rico-polling-places/ |
Response to virtualobserver (Reply #3)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:51 AM
truedelphi (32,324 posts)
16. It's seems rather useless to argue with any of them -
they are so far gone that they think the woman, Ortiz, who has "achieved" the top spot in terms of being the Committee Woman for The Democratic Party in Puerto Rico, a coveted spot you can only get by having DNC approval, is somehow not related to the fact that to get this top spot they have already vetted you and know you will speak their talking points. Which Ortiz seems only too happy to do.
So technically - she's not actually one of the Old Guard members of the DNC. But she is DNC approved official! And I bet we both know who told her to say what she said! |
Response to hrmjustin (Reply #1)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:54 AM
azurnoir (45,850 posts)
17. so Democratic Party of Puerto Rico isn't part of the DNC's tent?
well okay then
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Response to truedelphi (Original post)
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:57 PM
Doctor Jack (3,072 posts)
2. The walls are closing in
Everyone is out to get the Sanders people. Mass conspiracies everywhere. Trust no one. They might be listening in now.....
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Response to truedelphi (Original post)
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:58 PM
bravenak (34,648 posts)
4. Oh god
Sounds like reverse propaganda
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Response to truedelphi (Original post)
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:58 PM
brooklynite (89,608 posts)
5. SO we can expect the Sanders campaign to vigorously deny this viscious lie...can't we?
Response to brooklynite (Reply #5)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:27 AM
truedelphi (32,324 posts)
12. Already has been denied.
See my report on Sanders' statement a few replies above yours.
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Response to truedelphi (Original post)
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:59 PM
annavictorious (934 posts)
6. Sanders is the military-industrial complex candidate
Response to truedelphi (Original post)
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:01 PM
RBInMaine (13,570 posts)
8. Oh Christ here we go. Please, take your stinky sour grapes elsewhere. YOU LOST. Period.
Response to truedelphi (Original post)
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:04 PM
Agnosticsherbet (11,619 posts)
9. quote is from Liza Ortiz, National Committeewoman of the Democratic Party of Puerto Rico:
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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Reply #9)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:39 AM
truedelphi (32,324 posts)
13. Ah so there is the rub - just read what Ortiz is trying to
Fib about. Each PARTY, that is, both the Democratic and Republican Parties, are supposed to have personnel at each polling place to oversee the handling of the ballot distribution and collection. The poll workers DO NOT count the vote, though they do tally up how many people voted, based on the number of ballots turned in and accepted. These days I imagine that they use machines to count the votes, jsut as they do here in California.
Both Clinton and Bernie Sanders are Democrats - so why would there be a personnel problem? Here in counties in California, we don't need Sanders personnel specifically to be in charge of the vote count. That is the Registrar of Voters job. Since oversight is needed, the Party provides personnel to handle that oversight in the form of polling place workers. Those workers here in California are assigned to each polling place and there are usually two election Democratic Party workers for each polling place. There are also two Republican polling workers at each site. To be a polling place worker, you sign up. The County Registrar of Voters office personnel selects a group of those who sign up, based on the Party they belong to but there is no consideration at all for whether that Democratic registered voter is a Bernie Supporter or a Clinton Supporter. Meanwhile they are also making sure that there are two Republican registered voters to be election place workers, as well. I can't imagine that Puerto Rico is much different than the above. And I assume they have a Registrar of Voters for each province or county in Puerto Rico also. (It is possible that the position is called something else.) I am sure there were more than enough Democratic voters registered and willing to "volunteer" for the day. Although it is not really "volunteering, as you do get paid. Again the poll workers did not need to be Sanders people or Clinton people or a mixture - all they needed to be was Democratic Party registered voters. |
Response to Agnosticsherbet (Reply #9)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:47 AM
truedelphi (32,324 posts)
15. And do you really think that someone who happens to be the
National Committee Woman for the Democratic Party in Puerto Rico has no serious ties to the DNC?
If you think that, there is a bridge in Brooklyn I have for you a t a very reduced price, this weekend only! These types of positions are only given to the inner circle of people, all DNC approved. |
Response to truedelphi (Original post)
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:17 PM
brush (49,974 posts)
10. Why did the Sanders camp think he was going to win PR?
He usually doesn't do well with POCs.
Why did they think it was going to be different in Puerto Rico? |
Response to brush (Reply #10)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:43 AM
truedelphi (32,324 posts)
14. Your comment has no bearing on the topic.
I mean, you are free to be off topic, if you wanna be.
But the topic is not about whether Bernie or some of his supporters thought he would win in Puerto Rico. It is about the less than truthful statements that Ortiz made. These statements put Bernie in a very bad light. Please read my reply number 13 if you want some insight. |