Screw using terms like Naderites, Thirdway, Neoliberals to divide and shutdown

[BootinUp]

discussion.

[still_one]

1. you are right BootinUp, but I don't see that toning down until after the 16th

[Demsrule86]

2. I have but one thing to say

Naderites are dead to me...fuck them all.

[BootinUp]

3. Its not up to you to decide how they vote in the end.

Hopefully we all learn and grow wiser.

[Demsrule86]

6. Nader gave us Bush

I despise them and will never say anything nice...if Nader people are here they should go ...this is Democratic underground. I saw Jill Stein tweet about California too...Nader people never accomplish anything good...they are the spoilers. Now I don't call Bernie supporters that because I believe most are Democrats...we simply disagree on the candidate. I hope many will come around when Sanders finally concedes. Greens have been trying to get Bernie to run third party...and throw the election to the GOP...thus they get no love from me.

[BootinUp]

8. There are plenty that voted Nader that wouldn't make the

same decision if their vote was in a swing state. At least that's my opinion. Best thing to do is continue fighting propoganda with facts.

[Demsrule86]

19. That is true

And it must be hard to live with especially if you live in Florida or Ohio. I don't fault those folks...they are victims of the Naderites...for some unknown reason,they attack Dems and ignore Republicans...they con people into voting their 'conscience' and then help elect the GOP Susan Sarandon is an example. She uses her fame to promote the idea that if things get bad enough ...the revolution is just around the corner...well it is not true and helps Republicans...Trump is a monster and must be stopped. Good old Susie can move to one of her many houses somewhere else and ride out the bad times...but average folks can't. I am a liberal, and it would seem Nadarites would be my natural allies...but no way because they accomplish nothing...when they get involved we lose every time.

[SheenaR]

12. How about Al Gore wins his home state

And doesn't fail to for the first time in three decades of elections.

Nader and his voters didn't do that. We didn't take care of our own business.

[Demsrule86]

20. Oh come on

Romney could not win his home state last time either...Demographics change...The bottom line is had Nader not run, Bush would not have been president. And they did it again in 2004. Again, helping the GOP. Sorry, Nader and the greens are dead to me...they only serve to hurt Democrats and all Americans...they accomplish nothing...and we win and do great things in spite of them.

[hobbit709]

17. 300,000 alleged Democrats voting for Bush in Florida gave us Bush, not the 74,000 Nader got.

[Demsrule86]

21. Baloney

Nader and the greens gave us Bush...had he had not been on the Florida ballot, we would have won despite what I believe was GOP cheating. And four year later they were after Kerry...they can f off...that is how I feel. See I restrained myself and did not use the naughty f word.

[hobbit709]

22. double baloney to you

74,000 outweighs 300,000?

[Generic Brad]

4. I despise all of the name calling by both camps

It is divisive, uncivil, and immature.

[BootinUp]

5. Yep. nt

[Demsrule86]

7. I agree but every time

I hear Green, I think Nader...and then Bush...and all the harm he caused...how many people died in Katrina, 9-11 and the wars...and here is Susie S at it again...she said Trump was better than Hillary.

[99Forever]

9. Neoliberal is a descriptor for a particular political mindset, not a derogatory term.

if you don't like what it denotes, then you are backing the wrong candidate.

[BootinUp]

11. Did you read the whole sentence?

[99Forever]

13. Did you read my whole sentences?

Try not dodging for a change.

[BootinUp]

14. I suspect you will have more of a challenge adjusting

to the new rules at DU then I will.

[99Forever]

15. What the Hell does that have to do with the issue YOU wanted to "discuss?"

Frankly I don't give a damn what you think of me.

[Mnpaul]

10. and third way is a self adopted term used by the right wing of our party

Naderites is just an excuse for a bad campaign

[PowerToThePeople]

16. Yes. One of those things os not like the others.

[Yurovsky]

18. Exactly... What are we supposed to call them now?

When the right wing of the Democrat party decides, please let the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party know...