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Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:11 PM Jun 2016

Hey Warren: Do you understand that superdelegates ALREADY swayed the election

because the superdelegate drum was constantly beat in an attempt to decrease support for Bernie?

But of course that TRUTH doesn't support the corporatist wing of the Democratic Party so we ignore it.

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Hey Warren: Do you understand that superdelegates ALREADY swayed the election (Original Post) Skwmom Jun 2016 OP
Aaaaand Warren is thrown under puffy socks Jun 2016 #1
Get under there Warren! Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #2
Just like superdelegates swayed the election in '08, causing Obama to lose the nomination... qdouble Jun 2016 #3
You're speaking in that language called "sense". Don't be surprised... moriah Jun 2016 #22
How many people have even heard of superdelegates? Garrett78 Jun 2016 #4
So how would that work exactly? Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #5
"Who thinks like that?" Many people Peachhead22 Jun 2016 #18
The media constantly included supers from the start. Juicy_Bellows Jun 2016 #6
Yes, indeed! k8conant Jun 2016 #7
And did that prevent you from supporting or voting for Bernie? (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #8
Not me but it had an impact on some voters. Juicy_Bellows Jun 2016 #9
So did Bernie's endorsement from Killer Mike. That's why he sought it. pnwmom Jun 2016 #12
The supers should have never been included without a giant disclaimer. Juicy_Bellows Jun 2016 #14
Where is your evidence that a single voter was stymied by those endorsements, pnwmom Jun 2016 #16
Why would it? If someone liked Bernie why would they not vote for him? (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #13
Non political people look and see a candidate so far ahead and they either Juicy_Bellows Jun 2016 #15
I see: Clinton was "ahead" in Super Dels...as opposed to being ahead in VOTES and PLEDGED DELs brooklynite Jun 2016 #25
Is there any evidence of that? Adrahil Jun 2016 #23
They were unpledged delegates ENDORSING Hillary. Endorsements are meant to sway people. pnwmom Jun 2016 #10
Perhaps Bernie was just a weak candidate? Tarc Jun 2016 #11
Yeah, because a 100 SD advantage that the press rarely talked about... Peachhead22 Jun 2016 #20
The press talked about it constantly Tarc Jun 2016 #21
And the bus turns towards Warren. JoePhilly Jun 2016 #17
And here I kept hearing that Warren was their first choice. thucythucy Jun 2016 #30
So, Sanders supporters are that easily swayed? Interesting. nt anotherproletariat Jun 2016 #19
I bet the corporatist wing has a really cool secret handshake tandem5 Jun 2016 #24
one hand with the knife, the other with your wallet? MisterP Jun 2016 #27
Sour grapes bravenak Jun 2016 #26
Yes. It's impossible to ferret out exactly how much Clinton and the media's JimDandy Jun 2016 #28
Amazing how ... NanceGreggs Jun 2016 #29
I'm sure she knows this. My opinion of Warren isn't what it used to be. bjo59 Jun 2016 #31
bernie says supers are b ad. oh unless they vote for HIM when they are great. hypocrisy eh? nt msongs Jun 2016 #32

moriah

(8,311 posts)
22. You're speaking in that language called "sense". Don't be surprised...
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:27 PM
Jun 2016

... when you're ignored by the others who aren't as fond of it.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
4. How many people have even heard of superdelegates?
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:22 PM
Jun 2016

If anything, I think it would have helped Sanders in this anti-establishment environment. But I seriously doubt it had any impact on the primary and caucus results.

Speaking of caucuses, they suppress the vote in a big way and ought to be done away with. Replace them all with primaries.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
5. So how would that work exactly?
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:26 PM
Jun 2016

"I really like Bernie Sanders and his policies..... but I'm not going to vote for him in the primary because SUPERDELEGATES?"

Who thinks like that?

k8conant

(3,030 posts)
7. Yes, indeed!
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:34 PM
Jun 2016

It is yet another example of the media pushing the nomination process (along with ignoring Bernie for so long in their coverage).

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
12. So did Bernie's endorsement from Killer Mike. That's why he sought it.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:37 PM
Jun 2016

Maybe he should have gotten more endorsements instead of complaining about Hillary's.

Juicy_Bellows

(2,427 posts)
14. The supers should have never been included without a giant disclaimer.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:38 PM
Jun 2016

That would be what the DNC requested.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
16. Where is your evidence that a single voter was stymied by those endorsements,
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:44 PM
Jun 2016

when millions of Bernie voters were clearly undeterred?

Juicy_Bellows

(2,427 posts)
15. Non political people look and see a candidate so far ahead and they either
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:41 PM
Jun 2016

Dont participate or back what they presume to be the winner.

But you know that already.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
23. Is there any evidence of that?
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:33 PM
Jun 2016

Or are you just making a claim?

I've heard the claim, but have never seen any empirical evidence to back it up.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
10. They were unpledged delegates ENDORSING Hillary. Endorsements are meant to sway people.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:36 PM
Jun 2016

Maybe Bernie should have gotten more of his own lined up, instead of complaining from the beginning about how many supporters Hillary had.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
11. Perhaps Bernie was just a weak candidate?
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:37 PM
Jun 2016

Obviously Obama was able to breach the superdelegate wall in 2008.

Peachhead22

(1,078 posts)
20. Yeah, because a 100 SD advantage that the press rarely talked about...
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:04 PM
Jun 2016

...is exactly the same as a 400 SD advantage that the press wouldn't shut up about. /s

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
28. Yes. It's impossible to ferret out exactly how much Clinton and the media's
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:44 PM
Jun 2016

collaboration to include the SD #s in the total's bolster her campaign, but they wouldn't have done it if they didn't think it would sway the election.

NanceGreggs

(27,814 posts)
29. Amazing how ...
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:49 PM
Jun 2016

... the great, unstoppable "Revolution" of millions and millions of people was so easily sidetracked.

That's probably why the British let go of the Colonies - they found out that the American patriots had more super-delegates than they did.

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