2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumJust Like The Flying Chairs...MORE LIES. OF COURSE SANDERS DIDN'T REQUEST FEWER PR Polling Places!!
LIES, LIES, And MORE LIES...
EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)ENCOURAGED GOTV...How ROVIAN!! (and DESPICABLE!)
DebDoo
(319 posts)and every accusation they make against Bernie is a projection of their own wrong doing
KULawHawk
(97 posts)You want to discuss fraud?
Too bad the Denver Post already exposed the DNC and Clinton campaign attempting to defraud the Colorado results. 10 precincts of at least 4% of Sanders' votes.
Just enough to give her control of the state delegation when superdelegates would give her more overall delegates than him even though he won Colorado by 68%.
While the Democratic Party knew about the discrepancy a week after the caucus, it chose not to correct the public record, according to the Denver Post. For some reason, the Hillary Clinton campaign knew about the problem, but the Sanders campaign was not informed until late Monday by the Denver Post.
http://bipartisanreport.com/2016/06/03/breaking-major-vote-counting-error-in-democratic-primary-discovered-sanders-picks-up-delegates-video/
Jitter65
(3,089 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)bjo59
(1,166 posts)The corporate monopoly owned mainstream media can lie, or spread lies by others, all they want because there is absolutely nothing to stop them. If you own it all, what is there to worry about? Nothing! Lie away! The ever present media teaches Americans every single day that there is no such as truth. Or, maybe even more to the point, it teaches them that honesty is for suckers. How convenient for corrupted Democratic Party.
jillan
(39,451 posts)Bernie or Hillary have no control over the primaries in Puerto Rico or anywhere else.
Completely laughable.
MinnesotaRob
(53 posts)is that the Republicans have been suppressing voters the hard way all these years? If only they had known that all they needed to do was ask nicely and they'd shut down 75% of the polls, and they would do it on behalf of a candidate competing in that very election.
The most shocking part of this isn't this smear itself, it's that many people actually seemed to buy it. The claim is just so ludicrous, I mean how one can come to the conclusion that this is even plausible is just... I'm just at a loss for words
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)And of course everyone is buying into it. (shakes head)
stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)Every week he starts something that makes them look foolish within 48 hours.
Duped by David.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)The daily Brock propaganda is so absurd, only Hillarians believe it. Then they rightfully get mocked for their gullibility.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)It's a spin storm intended to either create a distraction from something else, like the actual issues facing the country, or maybe to scam voters who aren't paying such close attention to every campaign story and just see headlines.
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)Of course he would say the opposite of what the Puerto Rico Democratic Party stated. I believe what the PR Democratic Party said, because they have no reason to lie about what the Sanders campaign requested.
AzDar
(14,023 posts)Sad, actually.
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)At this point, his tricks are not even relevant, because he is finished. lol.
AzDar
(14,023 posts)KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)These lines are so old and so sad. Bitter.
choie
(4,111 posts)You are blind
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)univision, they still do news, and Poltico shut that one down so fast it is not even funny.
The campaigns head of Hispanic voter efforts, Betsy Franceschini, told Caribbean Business in an interview that Sanders officials were initially denied access to prisons to help inmates vote.
Our Bernie Sanders officials were never certified. We had 40 officials we submitted in time for the prisons. Not one of them was certified, while all of theirs went in. Attorney Manny Suárez had to go in order for us to be let in. This is a great fraud, Franceschini said.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...cials-of-fraud
and...
La situación, alegaron funcionarios electorales, se produjo porque en un principio se habían destinado 1,510 centros de votación, pero este domingo sólo hubo 455 disponibles. Contrario a las primarias locales, para las demócratas no se utilizaron las máquinas electrónicas, sino que se utilizó el proceso anterior, que conlleva el escrutinio manual.
http://www.univision.com/nueva-york/...en-puerto-rico
I do not expect you to read Spanish, but when you manually count the votes you need representatives from both parties, in this case the campaigns. The certifying authority is the party. This is very familiar, as in Mexico level corruption familiar and also machine politics in action. But do enjoy that unity, this is not 1992 anymore.
Duval
(4,280 posts)You bring order and truth, Nadin. It's needed here too often lately.
I wouldn't go around admitting that you fell for this.
Tarc
(10,476 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)This, of course... isn't even CLOSE to being a COMPLETE compendium. The MULTIPLE LIES re: her email etc., not included...
Tarc
(10,476 posts)Whelp, I'm convinced.
think
(11,641 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)HILLARY IS A LIAR...And I suspect there are many more lies yet to be revealed by the multiple ongoing Investigations.
Like I said... sucks for you.
Tarc
(10,476 posts)Having to get used to "Madam President" after years of patriarchy.
I would envy me, If I wasn't me already.
choie
(4,111 posts)Tarc
(10,476 posts)a2liberal
(1,524 posts)choie
(4,111 posts)to use her private email and a private server?
Tarc
(10,476 posts)Let me know if that wins the primary for ya...
think
(11,641 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)univision, they still do news, and Poltico shut that one down so fast it is not even funny.
Sanderss campaign is accusing Puerto Ricos Democratic Party officials of fraud in the territorys presidential primary.
The campaigns head of Hispanic voter efforts, Betsy Franceschini, told Caribbean Business in an interview that Sanders officials were initially denied access to prisons to help inmates vote.
Our Bernie Sanders officials were never certified. We had 40 officials we submitted in time for the prisons. Not one of them was certified, while all of theirs went in. Attorney Manny Suárez had to go in order for us to be let in. This is a great fraud, Franceschini said.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...cials-of-fraud
and...
La situación, alegaron funcionarios electorales, se produjo porque en un principio se habían destinado 1,510 centros de votación, pero este domingo sólo hubo 455 disponibles. Contrario a las primarias locales, para las demócratas no se utilizaron las máquinas electrónicas, sino que se utilizó el proceso anterior, que conlleva el escrutinio manual.
http://www.univision.com/nueva-york/...en-puerto-rico
They did a manual vote, Now take a guess who certifies these people? If you guess the party you would be correct. This is machine politics and worthy of the PRI in Mexico.
Renew Deal
(81,856 posts)They just tried to
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)His own people were surrounding him. If he'd thrown it he only would have hit his own people.
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)Whoever he was, as you can see by how unconcerned he was when he released the chair (he didn't even look at the person who set it down), he clearly had no intent to actually throw it.
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)Says this life-long, former Dem who left the party after what Clinton's camp pulled in NV.
Chairs will be the least of your candidate's worries come November.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)somebody took lessons from either the PRI or the Chicago machine.
pkdu
(3,977 posts)the fucking price-tag on the underside of the seat.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)for the record we are so fucking biased we are not endorsing anybody, not even the dog catcher... We truly believe in giving the information and not trying to influence how they vote, Oh and the speech from Madame Secretary, we posted the full transcript. I did not even bother with the analysis. Too busy with a local case. But I also believe you the voter can read that, and make your own decision.
Number23
(24,544 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Accuse all others while hiding a potential move that one has done oneself--hmm. It could just be coincidence! /s
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)Sorry...still no evidence that he did any such thing. Without evidence, it's all accusations that should no be repeated.
I agree that the people who are pushing this now, know this is not legit, and are just so desperate they will grasp at any propaganda they can to try to bring Bernie to his knees. Not going to happen.
Bernie is one strong and principled man
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)They sure are telling lies like the are.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)I already borrowed this.
AzDar
(14,023 posts)MFM008
(19,808 posts)as coming from Peurto Rico and reported on MSNBC and CNN.
Due to lack of resources, mainly people to watch the polls
Sanders campaign asked for some of the polling places to be moved.
That's what was reported.
Strange how things keep coming up like this with his campaign.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)and they have not realized this is not 1996 anymore.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)Who is still just trying to push the lie.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)Sadly
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)to push a lie for their candidate, in order to insulate her from the dirty, stinky shit her campaign let's loose on anyone who opposes her. Poor Obama suffered worse when he was up against her.
EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)JimDandy
(7,318 posts)Clinton's campaign didn't have nearly enough poll watchers either for the 1500 polling locations that normally are open in PR in the Nov GE. In a corrupt move, a PR DNC Dem Party official, who is supposed to be neutral but who is a huge Clinton supporter, sent out a desperate tweet just before election day, begging for Clinton supporters to volunteer to poll watch for her, but not even that plea could raise enough supporters for her.
And earlier this year, the Republican presidential candidates running in the PR Primary could muster enough poll watchers for only 110 of the 1500 polling locations countrywide!
But no one spun a lie after their primary that one of the Republican candidates requested less polling locations.
Desperate Clinton Campaigns F--lying Circus of Flying Chairs...
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Gets us to spend time clearing that up while he plants the next one.
David Brock has no friends.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Buddyblazon
(3,014 posts)like rock banging troglodyte stupid. Closing polling stations would hurt his campaign not help it. And sure....candidates can just ask that polling places be closed down.
I don't think Hillary supporters are that dumb. So they obviously are reaching for negative news.
Or maybe I'm wrong and they really are that dumb. lol.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)pretend it never ever happened
grasswire
(50,130 posts)Until another shiny chew toy tumbles down from Brock.
ReRe
(10,597 posts)... so are the lies of the BrockkkRovian Clinton Campaign. I knew it was a lie as soon as it was uttered out-loud on Chris Tweety-Pie Matthews yesterday.
exactly
same M.O.
AzDar
(14,023 posts)IRRELEVANT.
ReRe
(10,597 posts)... but not fast enough.
JEB
(4,748 posts)Scares the living shit out of me.
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)I will never ever ever vote Hillary. I would have to turn against every bit of morality, ethics, and honesty that I have ever had to do so.