Hillary Clinton’s brother-in-law Roger Clinton busted for DUI in California two days before primary

[Octafish]

Hillary Clinton’s brother-in-law Roger Clinton busted for DUI in California two days before primary

BY JASON SILVERSTEIN
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Updated: Monday, June 6, 2016, 10:57 AM

"Headache" has struck again — just in time for the California primary.

Hillary Clinton's troubled brother-in-law, Roger Clinton, was busted in southern California Sunday night on suspicion of DUI, just two days before the state's high-stakes primary.

Roger Clinton — who earned the Secret Service codename "Headache" for his antics during President Bill Clinton's administration —was held on $15,000 bail. He is due in court on Monday, a police spokeswoman told the Daily News.

Clinton, 59, was arrested in Redondo Beach around 8 p.m. after a civilian reported him for "erratic" driving, police said. After field sobriety tests, he was booked on suspicion of driving under the influence. But he refused all chemical testing in jail, police said.

SOURCE: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/hillary-clinton-brother-in-law-busted-dui-california-article-1.2662816

[tonyt53]

1. So, Roger is running for president? Is his name on the ballot? This stuff is playground nonsense

[bvf]

24. No, just for a spot in the First Family.

Probably not as bad as a former president who got blow jobs from an intern and embarrassed the entire country, though.

Oh, wait! He'd be in there, too?

"Clinton" became synonymous with "dissolute" a long time ago.

[Nye Bevan]

112. Ken Starr? Is that you? (nt)

[bvf]

118. My, but that was witty.

[Octafish]

28. Hillary and Bill are worth how many millions?

Unlike most families, they can afford the best in medical care.

[dsc]

36. Here is a short list of the rich people that alcoholism and drug addiction defeated

Amy Winehouse, Prince, Michael Jackson, Elvis Presley, one of the Koch brothers, Whitney Houston, and I could go on. Your utter shamelessness in shaming addicts is deplorable. I literally have no words for the depth of disgust in which I hold the attitude you are taking in this thread. BTW I am 16 years sober so I know of what I speak.

[yardwork]

47. Hey! We got sober the same year!

[dsc]

75. both of us had to abide Bush sober

[yardwork]

99. So true. 9/11, the Iraq war, everything.

I quit going to AA in 2004 - couldn't stand the Bush supporters.

[dsc]

101. I quit when I moved to NC because evening meetings are rough on me

given my very early wake up time. In Ohio there were a ton of meetings here not so much.

[Octafish]

55. The only people I'm shaming are Bill and Hillary Clinton.

They can afford to help their brother.

That's how it works in my family and we're in the statistical middle, as far as income goes.

[auntpurl]

62. And how on earth do you know that they HAVEN'T helped him?

Were you in the room?

This thread is despicable.

[Octafish]

66. That is an excellent point. I don't know.

I'm not a millionaire, either, but if I was, knowing what I do know, I'd get my brother in law help with substance abuse.

If I could, I'd also help him find something better to do with his time.

[auntpurl]

70. Yeah. I suspect you know very little about addiction.

Do you know how many times families have to do interventions before it sticks, if it ever does? How many loved ones end up in tears because they've done everything, including mortgaging their own houses, to put their loved ones through rehab only for the loved one to go right back out and use drugs the day they're released?

NO ONE can do ANYTHING to change an addict's (and I include alcoholics there) behaviour before they are ready to do it themselves. Addiction is a disease that thrives on self-pity and feelings of persecution. The people who are trying to help are the enemy to the disease. Therefore, they are the enemy to the addict.

I am a psychologist, and I've worked for years with substance-misusing incarcerated offenders.

[tonyt53]

79. My nephew, my oldest brother's son, pretty much destroyed his dad's life as he tried to help his son

Seen this one play out way this same way too many times. There may be one addict, but an entire family usually bears the brunt of that addiction.

[auntpurl]

82. Sorry to hear it.

It is an absolute bastard of a disease and it's impossible for non-addicts to understand why the addict would be willing to hurt everyone they love. The disease rules the person - they are powerless. But it's quite naturally extremely difficult for he family to love the addict and hate the addiction when the addict has stolen from you, lied to you, and hurt you over and over again.

I hope your nephew gets it together some day. My best to your family.

I won't even comment on the lack of compassion for families like yours of using a personal tragedy like addiction to score cheap points in a primary election by posting a thread like this.

[Octafish]

80. What I do know...

In the United States, those with health insurance coverage have some treatment options. Those without insurance, have very few options. Those without money have even fewer options for help.

I don't know where you practice, but if you work in the UK, you have National Health Insurance to help provide treatment for all. We don't have that, despite all the campaign pledges going back to JFK's time.

[auntpurl]

83. Ha ha. Treatment options in the UK

are extremely limited. The available care for addiction in the US is the best in the world. Most indigent people have several more options for rehab than they would in the UK. They also have the benefit of halfway house facilities for re-entry into the world, which doesn't exist in the UK.

Again, you know very little about this topic and using it as a cheap ploy to score points on DU is disgusting.

[Octafish]

90. So instead of all the condescension, enlighten us.

You think indigent people in the US have more options than in the UK?

[TheFarS1de]

114. They can't enlighten you .

They are talking out of their backside . The UK has excellent rehabilitation and addiction programs . That poster has another agenda if they think US Good/ UK Bad in terms of medical service .

[yardwork]

102. And what if he refused help?

[anigbrowl]

111. And yet you chose to make political hay out of it

This sort of thing is why I don't take you seriously.

[Octafish]

115. Not hay, News.

And like I care what you think of me.

[anigbrowl]

120. Do enlighten us as to what the newsworthy element is here...

I'm particularly interested to hear about the permanent cure for alcoholism that Hill & Bill are supposed to have purchased for him. Of course, if they had, you'd probably be saying it was news that Roger Clinton was safely out of the way at a sanitarium, wink wink.

[Octafish]

125. Unlike you, I find nothing funny with what happened.

The news is in the title. The story, though, requires understanding.

[anigbrowl]

127. I don't find it funny

There is no story here, just you saying that Hillary is somehow indirectly responsible for her brother-in-law's DUI so vote Bernie or something. It's pretty plain from this thread that virtually no-one besides yourself considers this anything more than trashy innuendo. Maybe it's you who needs to develop some understanding.

[dsc]

76. all the money in the world won't help a person who doesn't want help

clearly you have no experience with this for which you should be grateful not petty.

[emulatorloo]

93. You can't help someone w substance abuse problems who isn't ready to be helped

I am sure you know that.

[Octafish]

122. There may not be a family that has not suffered from substance abuse.

Mine included.

[emulatorloo]

128. Agreed.

[yardwork]

100. That's ridiculous. Money doesn't solve alcoholism. Really.

[Octafish]

121. What solves it?

Please, in all seriousness.

[yardwork]

131. Grow up.

[Octafish]

135. So your comment was intended to denigrate mine?

Who needs to grow up?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

130. Hafta agree with you on this one... Roger Clinton's DUI is completely irrelevant.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[writes3000]

2. Sad news. If this is true, I hope he gets some real help.

[Demsrule86]

8. Me too.

From what I read, neither Bill nor his brother had an easy childhood.

[tonyt53]

13. They had it rough.

[Octafish]

32. Absolutely.

In this story, I feel sorry for all concerned, especially Roger.

[SFnomad]

3. This is what the BS cheerleaders have sunk to ... reporting on things like this n/t

[Andy823]

9. Yep, yesterday

One of the posted that Hillary had given Bill a black eye!

[scscholar]

78. I think it's important to talk about the victims of for-profit policing

They make so much money from DUIs. So much money. It's so profitable. That's why those cops be like this.

[karynnj]

91. I WANT police to stop people who driving drunk - there are many tragic stories of

lives ended or destroyed because someone thoughtlessly thinks they know they can drive or simply does not think at all.

This has nothing to do with Hillary Clinton - other than it is likely painful for both her and her husband. It is sad that Roger Clinton, who was jailed in the 1985 for cocaine use - he had his record cleaned when pardoned by Bill Clinton - still has substance abuse problems.

[JoePhilly]

81. +1

[Tarc]

4. Has nothing to do with Hillary, he's been on the down & out for years

Some book or another claimed his Secret Service codename was "Headache", back in the day.

[Agnosticsherbet]

5. Brings to mind Jimmy Carter's brother Billy and Billy Beer, but has nothing to do with the election.

JImmy Carter is our greatest elder statesmen and one of the finest men we ever had in politics in my lifetime. But Billy was just his brother.

[DURHAM D]

7. lol Also my first thought. nt

[NCTraveler]

15. I have some Billy Beer.

Bought it in Plains, GA.

[Agnosticsherbet]

16. Now that wold be a cool bit of memorabilia. As I recall, it wasn't very good

back when I drank beer.

[NCTraveler]

21. The cans I have are empty.

A small pinhole in the bottom to drain them out. I was going to buy a fully intact six pack but they were clear that it will eventually rust through and the beer will come out.

I got it right across the street from the gas station Billy worked at.

[Brother Buzz]

51. To his credit, good old country boy, Billy never got popped for a DUI

Although the photographs of him pissing on trees in public were entertainly amusing, and did lead to the demise of his brand of beer, "Piss poorly Billy Beer".

[Agnosticsherbet]

53. His choice of urinals did not reflect poorly on Jimmy Carter.

[Brother Buzz]

57. Absolutely - just as Clinton's BIL's mess doesn't reflect poorly on her.

[Demsrule86]

6. And there is a point?

I think this does not belong in a GD-P.

[Octafish]

10. I posted in LBN, too.

More exposure.

[Demsrule86]

14. Why?

Honestly, I feel bad for this guy...he has problems. But I don't see why this is news or why it is relevant. It makes me sad to see such a post. It says much about where Bernie supporters are today.

[PepperHarlan]

20. Why? This is going to win Cali for Bernie!

[reddread]

26. congrats on a stellar first post.

what took you so long?

[PepperHarlan]

30. It could move the needle

Don't be too quick to dismiss it. This is YUGE.

[reddread]

34. as opposed to your third post

who said anything about needles?
he just refused chemical testing.
I didnt know you could.
bully for him.
party on Mr President's brother!

[PepperHarlan]

37. Good one!

[Demsrule86]

44. Right

Grasping at straws they are.

[Octafish]

22. If it was Bernie's brother, would you have a problem with me posting?

It's news, is why, and it has bearing on the campaign.

I "feel bad" for him, too.

[dsc]

38. abso fucking lutely

it is despicable gutter politics no matter who posts it about whom.

[ExtraGriz]

42. save your "feels" for 8pm tuesday night...n/t

[Demsrule86]

45. Absolutely

This has no place in GDP.

[WhiteTara]

27. Sad.

[Spazito]

33. LOL, Hillary is toast now, right?

[MyNameGoesHere]

84. I had this long post written asking if you would consdier

Self deleting post. I was going to have you examine your humanity. I would be wrong to ask you to change your character, so please do have fun and make a point. It surely has to make you feel better.

[Octafish]

92. So it's my fault Roger Clinton was arrested for DUI?

I think I understand you better, too.

[MyNameGoesHere]

97. I never said Roger was your fault

I said your lack of humanity was your fault.

[Octafish]

104. As opposed to projection?

Not that I'm at fault for that, too.

[Demsrule86]

11. You should move this to GD or the Lounge nt

[floppyboo]

25. Totally agree with you. nt

[Demsrule86]

46. I don't know what to say

I know how hard it is when your candidate loses.

[floppyboo]

64. does that mean you tacitly condone this 'national equirerer' shite?

[NCTraveler]

12. So sad. I hope he gets help.

Far too many people get on the roads after drinking. It is such a selfish act and is often a sign of bigger problems. Hope he gets help.

[Octafish]

137. My feelings, exactly.

Thanks for putting it into words, NCTraveler.

[TheBlackAdder]

17. Billy Carter sold "Billy Beer," Roger Clinton can sell "Headache Beer," named to sell millions.

[ExtraGriz]

18. what shit is this?

using a disease for.....wtf? what is the intention of this?

[hamsterjill]

19. Poor Roger.

Personally, I love the way that both Bill and Hillary have handled the "Roger" issue through the years. They love him, but admit he's had his issues and made mistakes. They've never tried to hide him.

THAT's called "family".

I hope that Roger gets the help he needs, and I can only imagine that it would be a difficult thing living in the shadow of a sibling that is Big Dawg.

[reddread]

23. portents

that is how they will be driving this country deeper into the arms of trillionaires and foreign monarchs.
I never thought I would see the final chapter on the American Dream.
this is just an epilogue.

[firebrand80]

29. Finally, a Clinton will be indicted nt

[Ned_Devine]

31. As a Bernie supporter, this is just a distraction

Hillary has enough flaws that I can't be concerned with her brother in law.

[LonePirate]

35. Odd phrasing - Hillary's brother-in-law instead of Bill's brother

Why would that phrasing be used? I don't think you need to guess why.

[Demsrule86]

49. Obviously a post that was meant to attack Hillary

Many of use have seen substance abuse of all sorts in our own families and only feel sorrow at Roger's plight. And I commend the Clintons for standing with him. In hubs family, one of his cousins was an addict and to this day even though she has been clean for years, her family ignores her. We don't have much to do with them. They told us this girl was dead so we have only recently made contact.

[yardwork]

50. Struggling to make it relevant for GD-P?

[obamanut2012]

39. Thanks for posting this here AND in LBN

[montana_hazeleyes]

41. I don't see what this has to do with the primaries.

I'm just curious, he looks to be quite a bit younger than Bill. does anyone know?

[Demsrule86]

52. He is the youngest brother.

[montana_hazeleyes]

61. Thanks Demsrule86.

[Demsrule86]

96. welcome

I know this is supposed to somehow hurt Hillary but I think it is just sad...Octa shouldn't use an ill person ... as a weapon...people are not props.

[montana_hazeleyes]

124. I agree.

I hope most people feel the same way.

[Tanuki]

133. Roger is Bill's half brother, the son of Bill's mother and the abusive alcoholic she married after

Bill's own father died in a car accident before he was born. Roger is about 10 years younger. There was significant domestic violence in Bill and Roger's childhood home, requiring police intervention on multiple occasions. It's pretty amazing how much Bill has achieved in spite of the chaotic upbringing. Given the genetics and childhood trauma Roger has been dealt, it is truly sad but hardly surprising that he continues to struggle. I agree with you that this has nothing to do with the primaries, but the poster admits that it is an attempt at "shaming" the presumptive Democratic nominee and her husband, as if they are somehow to blame or should be discredited.

[montana_hazeleyes]

144. Thank you for the reply Tanuki.

I didn't know Bill's dad died before he was born, and he and his half brother were subjected to this terrible situation. It's very sad.

[zappaman]

43. Thank you! I will not vote for Roger Clinton!

[auntpurl]

60. Me neither!

Thank goodness that was cleared up for me - I might have written him in.

[Surya Gayatri]

65. Nor I. That's sealed it. No vote for Roger.

[yardwork]

48. I'm not clear on why this is posted in GD-P.

But, whatever.

[Bjornsdotter]

54. Not a Hillary supporter here

....this has nothing to do with Hillary or the elections.

[hrmjustin]

56. I am sorry to hear this and I wish him the best.

He is in my prayers.

[Octafish]

68. Me too.

Mine, too.

Thank you, hrmjustin.

[MariaThinks]

58. and yet Bernie supporters will later say that Hillary supporters are being unfair.

why is this posted?

[Vinca]

59. You can't pick your relatives.

[NCTraveler]

63. Outside of you attempting to use this instance to hurt people....

It looks like we have a board of solid and caring progressives.

[Octafish]

67. Compassion.

Don't tell me it's an alien concept to you?

[NCTraveler]

69. Nope. Clearly not an alien concept to me.

So sad to see how compassionless you are being here.

[Sheepshank]

71. I thought family, not involved with the campaigns, was off limits? Classless BSer.

I'd delete if I were you.

[UMTerp01]

72. OMG this is major Democratic Primary News!!!!

[Fumesucker]

73. Not really relevant to the election, you can choose your friends but you can't choose family

And in the grand scheme of things I don't think Roger Clinton has been nearly as destructive as a great many people a lot higher in society.

I hope he finds a constructive way to deal with what is evidently a problem for him, godspeed Roger.

[libodem]

74. Billy Beer?

That's too bad. Alcoholism is a disease, not a political football. It's a disease of denial, if you didn't know. Everybody thinks they have it under control and it's not anyone else's business.

As long as you keep it hidden from yourself you can't see it clearly. Sometimes the DUI, is part of hitting bottom. Factors like, family problems, problems at the job, social mishaps and legal consequences will bring that denial down a little.

Poor man, 30 days inpatient and 90 meetings in 90 days. Best of luck, brother Roger.

[chillfactor]

77. which has absolutely....

NOTHING to do with Hillary! you bernie supporters are really becoming desperate.

[nolabear]

85. Are you proud of posting this junk?

Because frankly it does nobody proud.

[Octafish]

98. Proud, no. I'm not ashamed, either.

What I find interesting is to discover so many posters expressing anger at me for doing so.

You'd think I was a Vichy rat who turned in a French Resistance leader.

[Logical]

86. As a bernie supporter, why post this shit? Who cares? Nt

[Kentonio]

87. What a large number of posters we suddenly have who appear to be showing compassion and liberalism.

Funny how these traits seemed to be absent in most of their other posts over the last year.

[unc70]

88. Clinton has enough problems with her own family

Last edited Mon Jun 6, 2016, 05:04 PM - Edit history (1)

Actually, a little more relevant. Mostly trading on having influential family. Things like gold mines in Haiti(?), various stories of somewhat shady deals. This is a rather common problem for lots of politicians. I seem to remember Nixon's brother.

[Amaril]

89. Not GD:P material

This has nothing to do with Hillary herself nor the primaries. Please consider deleting or asking the Admins to move it elsewhere

[Octafish]

139. Wrong. He's a public figure. He received a Presidential Pardon.

He was arrested for breaking the law. Not necessarily news when it's the drunk pulling out of the country club, but his sister-in-law is running for the highest elected office in the land.

Wish I was writing about someone or something else, but its news.

[Alittleliberal]

94. I don't care

It has nothing to do with HRC.

[treestar]

95. Irrelevant to this primary

[AzDar]

103. Oh, JESUS. The Clintons and the Rodhams need to just GO AWAY...

[reddread]

110. wrong first brother

[reddread]

107. top that

[Miles Archer]

109. That's a "so what" for me.

I'm not a Clinton fan, but it has everything to do with Hillary Clinton and nothing to do with her relatives.

[Nye Bevan]

113. You would think Bill and Hillary would pay for a permanent chauffeur-driven car for him,

and every year that he doesn't get arrested for anything give him a gift certificate for Dave and Buster's.

[Octafish]

123. That is an interesting perspective.

I'm in Southeast Michigan where those with substance abuse problems and the means have access to the best healthcare in the world. Those without health insurance or money, don't have much of a chance -- unless they're in jail. Then, they have a chance, such as it is.

[VOX]

116. That does it! I'll never, ever vote for Roger!

Next.

[Waiting For Everyman]

117. Flashback to the 1990s,

it's the parade of "mistakes" and drama.

Redondo is a family community (unless it's changed a lot since I lived next door in Hermosa years ago), so I'm glad at least this idiot didn't harm anyone.

[wendylaroux]

126. he has aged very well! I suppose it's the pickling process.

[panader0]

129. Didn't Bill pardon him once already?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

132. I thought liberals were supposed to have empathy for folks in distress.

[Octafish]

134. I thought liberals considered drunk driving against the law?

As for empathy, where's yours?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

136. Punishment and rehabilitation are not mutually exclusive.

I am glad you and everybody close to you are perfect and never had to battle addiction.

[Octafish]

138. So now it's about me and my family.

Perhaps I missed it, but I don't remember making personal comments about you or your family on DU.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

140. As an empathetic and compassionate person...

As an empathetic and compassionate person I thank God for everybody who has avoided the scourge of addiction including you and those close to you. If you or someone close to you haven't I pray for your and their recovery.

[gollygee]

141. Why is this in GDP?

I don't see what it has to do with the primaries.

I hope he gets help for his drinking problem, and I'm glad no one was hurt.

[MineralMan]

142. And so? This is the weakest anti-Clinton OP I've ever seen.

Desperation is a destructive emotion.

[Octafish]

143. No. It's a news article. If it were an anti-Clinton OP, I'd have voiced an opinion.

If you want my rational for preferring Bernie Sanders over Hillary Clinton for the Party's nominee, it has to do with Integrity.

Why I hold that opinion.

See UBS.

See Honduras.

See Ukraine.

See Libya.

Those are, of course, based on facts. Taken together they help me form my opinion.

[MohRokTah]

145. BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

Oh this is rich! Trying to hang a degenerate brother-in-law's actions on the candidate!!!!!

[Octafish]

146. ''a degenerate brother-in-law''

No, you don't get it at all.