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MariaThinks

(2,495 posts)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 12:41 PM Jun 2016

Vote Hillary! Rest assured, the email problem is NOT an issue.

You see, it's not the private emails that were the problem (because everyone else was doing it). It was the fact that she had a private server. This is completely bogus and only raised because the first problem was refuted (just like the original witch-hunt focused on Benghazi). If private email was accepted, it makes no difference where the server was.

Hillary has been in some sort of public office most of her life now. Does anyone ever recall any issues with her handling of classified information before? And the real leaks in the past decade were not even through Hillary.

We fall into the GOP hands when we listen to their approach on trying to find issues to destroy candidates.

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Vote Hillary! Rest assured, the email problem is NOT an issue. (Original Post) MariaThinks Jun 2016 OP
Your message is falling upon many deaf ears, and that is sad. No changing their minds tonyt53 Jun 2016 #1
Perhaps you should explain this to the FBI. guillaumeb Jun 2016 #2
You again. You must find my posts fascinating that you have to respond. MariaThinks Jun 2016 #6
I was simply surprised, perhaps shocked, guillaumeb Jun 2016 #47
No that's what you do. I talk about reducing the violence that i'm seeing. MariaThinks Jun 2016 #48
The bubble keeps getting bigger... dchill Jun 2016 #8
She is NOT being investigated. apcalc Jun 2016 #51
It's cool guys, call off the investigation. Jester Messiah Jun 2016 #3
The email issue seems to be a speed bump, the Clinton Foundation is what looks to have teeth. TheBlackAdder Jun 2016 #36
The real issues are WAR, Oligarchy and Environmental Catastrophe, at least for me. Live and Learn Jun 2016 #4
From your phrasing, you know what Hillary will do but are not sure about Trump? MariaThinks Jun 2016 #7
You got it. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #9
and you're basing this on which actual decisions Bernie has made? MariaThinks Jun 2016 #11
Bernie has run an excellent, almost miraculous, campaign and you know it. Live and Learn Jun 2016 #15
Ridiculous. He had plenty of time, he just didn't appeal to enough voters to win. -nt- Lord Magus Jun 2016 #18
Really? Clinton has been running for decades. Bernie only a few months before the first primaries. Live and Learn Jun 2016 #21
Yes, Hillary has been working hard for decade, Bernie only a few months MariaThinks Jun 2016 #27
What crap. Bernie has been working for progressive values his entire life. Live and Learn Jun 2016 #31
that's a pretty rotten thing to say about First lady. MariaThinks Jun 2016 #32
I don't think so. They are not elected. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #35
So much anger and violence is excellent? scscholar Jun 2016 #28
You should do better than posting lies. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #33
You've made it very clear that you don't live in reality. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #17
The biggest clue that there was no intentional wrongdoing is that, as Sanders supporters constantly anotherproletariat Jun 2016 #5
Exactly. But it's too logical. Or she gets paid so much for speeches - why would she care about MariaThinks Jun 2016 #13
Not to mention that the money made from speeches all went to charity. nt anotherproletariat Jun 2016 #49
That's not true. 2cannan Jun 2016 #53
If it's a problem then why hasn't she been indicted yet? Happyhippychick Jun 2016 #10
It seems to me having a private server that was not compromised Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #12
100% true. MariaThinks Jun 2016 #14
I don't blame her at all. nt Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #24
We KNOW that State's email got hacked repeatedly by foreign powers. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #20
True Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #23
Great slogan on a "HRC for President" billboard TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #16
An interesting twist on the facts and then this: k8conant Jun 2016 #19
seriously? This is how silly the discussion is? First Lady 8 years. First lady Arkansas 12 years MariaThinks Jun 2016 #29
Wow. What elections did she win to be first lady? mac56 Jun 2016 #38
We were talking about government officials... k8conant Jun 2016 #40
Seems to me that the FBI is spending an awful amount sadoldgirl Jun 2016 #22
security review reddread Jun 2016 #25
a member for a whole 6 months magical thyme Jun 2016 #26
what does broccoli mean? MariaThinks Jun 2016 #30
It's not an issue NOW. Vinca Jun 2016 #34
The email thing is not the reason I'm not voting for Hillary. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2016 #37
You only prove my point. Instead of just not voting for her, people make stuff up. MariaThinks Jun 2016 #42
I agreed with you. The email thing is not an issue for me. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2016 #44
I kind of agreed with you as well. MariaThinks Jun 2016 #46
Sorry to tell you that even if bbgrunt Jun 2016 #39
An indictment would probably be preferable mac56 Jun 2016 #41
Only to those who make stuff up. MariaThinks Jun 2016 #43
The perception of wrongdoing is often as damaging is the reality of wrongdoing. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2016 #50
This is just embarrassing... even for a Hillary supporter. AzDar Jun 2016 #45
Thank you so much for assuring my rest. gordianot Jun 2016 #52
unless they are about the foundation or pay-to-play, dealings with foreign leaders, ect larkrake Jun 2016 #54

MariaThinks

(2,495 posts)
48. No that's what you do. I talk about reducing the violence that i'm seeing.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:50 PM
Jun 2016

Islam seems to be your obsession. In fact, you mentioned it first in this completely unrelated thread. Very telling.

You tell others what to talk about and what to notice.

You should put me on ignore since you have no interest in enlightened conversation, and I find these dialogues to be a complete waste of my time.

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
3. It's cool guys, call off the investigation.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 12:45 PM
Jun 2016

Some rando on the Internet says it was all fine. Let's pack it up and head home.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
4. The real issues are WAR, Oligarchy and Environmental Catastrophe, at least for me.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 12:47 PM
Jun 2016

All three are sure to happen if Hillary is elected. I have no idea what Trump would do at all but I doubt it will be pleasant either and it is sure to make us a laughing stock by the rest of the world.

MariaThinks

(2,495 posts)
7. From your phrasing, you know what Hillary will do but are not sure about Trump?
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 12:52 PM
Jun 2016

and you think none of those things will happen under Bernie?

MariaThinks

(2,495 posts)
11. and you're basing this on which actual decisions Bernie has made?
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 12:55 PM
Jun 2016

Heck, he's having problems with voting polls and volunteers in yesterdays' voting.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
15. Bernie has run an excellent, almost miraculous, campaign and you know it.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 12:58 PM
Jun 2016

If he'd of had more time he'd be seeping this primary. People recognize that the 3rd way is not at all for the people. Someday you will realize it too but it will probably be too late.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
21. Really? Clinton has been running for decades. Bernie only a few months before the first primaries.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:02 PM
Jun 2016

How is that enough time? You know damn well that more people support Bernie's ideas than Clintons. I predict you will rue the day you selected her in the future.

MariaThinks

(2,495 posts)
27. Yes, Hillary has been working hard for decade, Bernie only a few months
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:32 PM
Jun 2016

I'm not sure what your timelines have to do with this. Sounds like you should support Hillary because she has devoted so much to this effort, while it seems like an afterthought for Bernie.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
31. What crap. Bernie has been working for progressive values his entire life.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:38 PM
Jun 2016

First lady doesn't really count.

 

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
5. The biggest clue that there was no intentional wrongdoing is that, as Sanders supporters constantly
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 12:48 PM
Jun 2016

declare...she's known she was going to run for president since she lost in 2008. Knowing how highly scrutinized everything she does will be, she would never have set up something to give her opponents fodder for more attacks. She simply wasn't aware that any of this (the emails, the server) were problems. She had people who set up and handled all of the technical logistics, and she was focused on the job of SoS.

MariaThinks

(2,495 posts)
13. Exactly. But it's too logical. Or she gets paid so much for speeches - why would she care about
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 12:56 PM
Jun 2016

doing anything else if it was about getting richer.

2cannan

(344 posts)
53. That's not true.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 04:47 PM
Jun 2016

Liberal group claims all of Hillary Clinton's speaking fees went to charity
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/jun/16/occupy-democrats/liberal-group-claims-all-hillary-clintons-speaking/

Our ruling

Occupy Democrats claimed Clinton "has donated every cent she's ever earned from speaking fees to charity."

That’s a misreading of Clinton’s comments in 2014, when she said speaking fees at colleges and universities were donated to the Clinton Foundation.

Clinton’s financial disclosure form includes 51 speeches in which Clinton was compensated directly.

This claim rates False
.

Demsrule86

(68,565 posts)
12. It seems to me having a private server that was not compromised
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 12:55 PM
Jun 2016

is way more responsible than using Google like Powell did...and given the archaic nature of State's email, I sure don't blame her. Bernies supporters have posted the worst of the right wing hate articles on this issue. It didn't help Bernie.

Lord Magus

(1,999 posts)
20. We KNOW that State's email got hacked repeatedly by foreign powers.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:02 PM
Jun 2016

Yet it was a security risk for Hillary to use a private server that it's rumored might have been hacked? According to Republicans that makes sense, and it's sad to see progressives pretend it makes sense just because they want to attack Hillary.

k8conant

(3,030 posts)
19. An interesting twist on the facts and then this:
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:01 PM
Jun 2016
Hillary has been in some sort of public office most of her life now.


Source? All I know of are U.S. Senate 2001-2009 and Secretary of State 2009-2013

MariaThinks

(2,495 posts)
29. seriously? This is how silly the discussion is? First Lady 8 years. First lady Arkansas 12 years
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:34 PM
Jun 2016

let's at least elevate the conversation on the left.

k8conant

(3,030 posts)
40. We were talking about government officials...
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:03 PM
Jun 2016

my husband wasn't a government official because I worked for IRS for 17 years.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
22. Seems to me that the FBI is spending an awful amount
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:05 PM
Jun 2016

of time on tho "non issue".
And why is Obama blocking the release of her
e-mails regarding the TTP until after the election?

Vinca

(50,271 posts)
34. It's not an issue NOW.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:43 PM
Jun 2016

Unless you're an FBI agent involved in this investigation and speaking out of turn, you have no idea what will happen to this case.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
37. The email thing is not the reason I'm not voting for Hillary.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:51 PM
Jun 2016

It's her much vaunted, politically expedient, "foreign policy experience" which exceeds my nose holding limits. Not to mention her lack of scruples, ruthlessness, and ambiguous (to put it kindly) morality.

MariaThinks

(2,495 posts)
42. You only prove my point. Instead of just not voting for her, people make stuff up.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:27 PM
Jun 2016

She is none of the things you believe. But I don't care. Hopefully there will be enough people smart enough to protect people who have a warped sense of Hillary.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
44. I agreed with you. The email thing is not an issue for me.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:42 PM
Jun 2016

Your judgement and mine differ on her character. And, if she is your preferred candidate you should vote for her. Just as I will vote for my preferred candidate.

bbgrunt

(5,281 posts)
39. Sorry to tell you that even if
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:59 PM
Jun 2016

She is not formally indicted, her email issue remains a problem of honor and character.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
50. The perception of wrongdoing is often as damaging is the reality of wrongdoing.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 04:19 PM
Jun 2016

What the public sees is "scandal", "investigation", "possible indictment", "cover up", and "Clinton denies".

To think there will be no impact is akin to singing "Happy Days Are Here Again" when ones head is buried in the sand..

gordianot

(15,238 posts)
52. Thank you so much for assuring my rest.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 04:33 PM
Jun 2016

The brilliance of your logic for Dear Leader Hillary makes me proud to be an American. I do fear for my rest that will be so assured I may have trouble waking up. Please note there is no need for me to go to re-education camp I have seen the error of my ways and never again will I defame the name of our Fatherly Leader William Clinton or the Celestial Mother. Send more of the blue and white pills. Your faithful servant.

 

larkrake

(1,674 posts)
54. unless they are about the foundation or pay-to-play, dealings with foreign leaders, ect
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 04:47 PM
Jun 2016

classified, no, but I dont think they are looking at that. I think they uncovered some illegal leads, or even traitorous leaning be it true or not, you see, emails cannot be totally erased unless you destroy the drive itself.

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