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[Kentonio]

1. Well she's got a key eye for irony, I'll give her that..

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

101. And brought more publicity to her cause... nice touch Hillary!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[Cheese Sandwich]

146. Her cause is trying to seem out of touch with ordinary Americans?

I did not know that.

[NurseJackie]

2. Ha!! :-D

[Autumn]

3. Ugly jacket. nt

[MissDeeds]

109. Seriously ugly jacket. n/t

[Autumn]

113. Butt ugly jacket. Very unflattering

[jillan]

124. Looks like couch upholstery. nt

[madamesilverspurs]

4. The device does not exist

to measure the size of the flying fuck not given over this.

[nilram]

6. Perhaps by the media and people with a vested interest in the status quo.

[PeaceNikki]

5. And Sanders spent over $600,000 to fly to Rome to talk for 10 minutes about poverty.

so....

[frazzled]

8. Oh, snap /nt

[grossproffit]

10. That's St. Bernie to you!

[Starry Messenger]

19. And $13k+ on one night in the hotel room

http://www.politicade.com/confirmed-bernie-sanders-illegally-used-campaign-funds-for-overnight-trip-to-italy/

Humble digs.

[PeaceNikki]

20. But I am sure he borrowed the Pope's Renault to toot around town

[sheshe2]

56. Wow!

The link has screen shots as well!

[enid602]

59. $18k

Well, that does include the turkey legs and quarts of Schlitz that he and Jane otdered from Room Service.

[tecelote]

85. Take a tour of the Clinton family's $50,000-per-week rental mansion in the Hamptons

http://www.businessinsider.com/tour-hillary-clintons-50000-per-week-hamptons-rental-2015-8

[Starry Messenger]

86. Yes, I know about it.

She doesn't pretend to be St. Francis of Assisi either.

[tecelote]

89. Who?

[redstateblues]

116. You've never heard of St Francis? You need to get out more.

[Ash_F]

100. That is not a real news source

[Cheese Sandwich]

154. That won't slow them down.

The faker the better.

[Vincardog]

22. Link? Sanders flies commercial usually Coach.

[PeaceNikki]

25. The FEC

http://www.fec.gov/finance/disclosure/candcmte_info.shtml

Payee is Air Charter:


And the hotel (Boscolo at the bottom):

[WolverineDG]

102. At least he paid his bills

instead of running them up & getting out of Dodge like a certain other presidential candidate in 2008.

[Maru Kitteh]

135. Holy shit. $600,000/mo for "revolution messaging" buys a lot of online posting no doubt

Explains a lot, it does.

[PeaceNikki]

142. They've paid over $27,000,000 to that company since Sept.

I have all of the data in Excel.

[Maru Kitteh]

148. Jesus H. on a trailer hitch!

Just WOW.

[uponit7771]

160. What... the .... fuck?! I suspect the Sanders are horrible with money

[brooklynite]

69. You missed this story two months ago?

Bernie rented an entire 767 (he was at the Debate that night and could have caught a commercial flight if he wanted to), and flew in the Business Class section...

[KoKo]

120. How do Bill & Hillary Fly? Private Jet? Commercial,Business, Coach or First Class?

Sanders flew Coach until this:

=========


Sanders gets Secret Service protection

By Eliza Collins

02/03/16 01:23 PM EST

Bernie Sanders is receiving Secret Service protection, the Department of Homeland Security confirmed to Politico on Wednesday.

“Following an official request from the campaign, and after consultation with a congressional advisory committee pursuant to the statutorily prescribed process, Secretary of Homeland Jeh Johnson authorized United States Secret Service protection for presidential candidate Bernie Sanders,” a spokeswoman from DHS said in an email.

In order for protection to begin, the DHS secretary must approve a request after reviewing a list of criteria and consulting a committee that includes the speaker of the House, the House minority leader, the Senate majority and minority leaders and an additional member the committee has chosen.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/bernie-sanders-secret-service-protection-218685

[brooklynite]

151. I believe Hillary Clinton got Secret Service protection in 1992...

[scscholar]

23. The jacket might have been a gift...

so this made-up issue doesn't exist, but the begging for an invite thing is still a problem for him.

[840high]

66. From a Wall St. admirer.

[Mohammed_Lee]

81. from the Clinton Foundation.... n/t

[apcalc]

58. You got that right!

Where are the those tax returns, Mr. Sanders?

[riversedge]

62. It was a freebie--his small donors donated for Sanders Rome trip

[1StrongBlackMan]

65. Oh my, damn! Thread Closer ... or, it would be with the tininest amount of self-reflection ...

on the OP's part.

[PeaceNikki]

71. Not one response from a BS supporter on this yet.

Wait, I assume the one who asked for proof is a Berner. But nothing since I provided it

[1StrongBlackMan]

175. Well ... Why should they ...

They have had their chance to outrage!!!! sans, competing facts.

[still_one]

82. I thought it was to shake someone's hand

[AgingAmerican]

93. No he didnt

More lies from camp weather vane

[PeaceNikki]

95. He absolutely did. Link to FEC and screenshots above.

Look it up yourself.

[PeaceNikki]

98. It's on the FEC site. Those are documents that Sanders submitted.

Go look.

It's there.

[AgingAmerican]

108. Everything they say is false, misconstrued, distorted

Everything

[PeaceNikki]

110. The FEC? Sanders' Campaign?

It's right fucking there, yo.

[uponit7771]

161. We agree, Sanders has been running a campaign of "artful" rhetoric

[PeaceNikki]

99. Facts

http://www.fec.gov/finance/disclosure/candcmte_info.shtml

Payee is Air Charter:


And the hotel (Boscolo at the bottom):

[PeaceNikki]

107. What about what the Sanders campaign reported to the FEC? That's what we're talking about.

[Hekate]

149. And he used campaign money. How many $27 donations did that take?

Judging from the way Hillary gets criticized for repeatedly wearing her pantsuit ensembles, I'm certain this one will get a lot of use and not sit in the closet.

Maybe some of these fashionistas could drop her a lne about how true Democrats only ever wear sackcloth and ashes. That has been a persistant theme over many years here. Nonetheless, I notice St Bernie bought a new suit.

[PeaceNikki]

152. 22,720.41 donations for the flight

[uponit7771]

159. +1

[sufrommich]

7. Was she on a private jet to Rome? nt

[azurnoir]

16. No she was resting @ her 200k per month Hampton rental

[geek tragedy]

9. Hillary is a woman who wears clothes. People who do not like her have a weird

tendency to want to police her wardrobe.

Oh, and welcome to DU.

[TeeYiYi]

117. I wear clothes too...

...but, I guarangoddamnteeyou that I don't own any $12,000 Armani jackets; and if I did own one AND and I was trying to portray myself as a 'candidate for the people'... I would sure as shit leave that fucker in my closet until after the election.

TYY

[geek tragedy]

121. did Eleanor Roosevelt and Jackie Kennedy buy clothes at the thrift store? nt

[TeeYiYi]

129. Probably not...

...and that was not the point. The point has to do with flaunting a $12,000 Armani jacket while campaigning to try to convince the masses that she's 'just one of the peeps' and to give her their vote.

"Let Them Eat Cake"

TYY

[geek tragedy]

131. so every time a woman is in public, she is 'flaunting' her clothes? nt

[TeeYiYi]

134. If their clothes...

...are $12,000 Armani jackets, I'd have to say, YES.

TYY

[PeaceNikki]

133. She didn't wear it to a homeless shelter with the price tag still hanging from it.

She wore it to her NY victory speech.

[TeeYiYi]

138. !...

TYY

[notadmblnd]

11. If she paid that kind of money for that jacket- she was ripped off.

I don't know anyone who would wear that sort of thing except maybe Kim Jong Un. And I'll bet money he doesn't pay 12k for his.

[TexasBushwhacker]

43. I don't know why ANYONE spends that kind of money on a jacket

Since I doubt that Armani designs Dr. Evil suits normally, it must have been a custom design.

[wyldwolf]

12. 26 Million Americans Can't Afford the Internet

Yet, here you are using the internet.

Yes, what a progressive. You are showing your true white privilege.

DA.

[NCTraveler]

13. Did she look good in it? Nt

[TwilightZone]

27. Best response in this thread.

[Armstead]

73. It's better to look good than to be good

To misquote Billy Crystal

[Fresh_Start]

14. have you ever looked at the wealth of the Roosevelts or the Kennedys?

being wealthy doesn't not mean 'not progressive'.

[wyldwolf]

26. Could you describe the tax policies of FDR, Kennedy and Hillary Clinton?

[Agschmid]

37. Not without Google I'm betting...

[wyldwolf]

42. that's how you describe their tax policies?

Coming from someone who talks about a woman's clothes, I suppose your answer is profound.

[Fresh_Start]

44. JFK dropped the top tax rate from over 90% to mid-60 percent

he dropped the corporate tax rate almost as much

So in effect, Kennedy dropped the tax rate on himself and his family
Clinton is proposing raising the tax rate on herself and her family

[wyldwolf]

53. technicality

JFK agreed to cut taxes to 77% for 1964 and 70% for 1965. LBJ signed it into law.

But, regardless, that does nothing for your argument.

[wyldwolf]

64. if that's your argument, you've not made it. JFK hated "progressives."

He famously told the Saturday Evening Post, "I am not a liberal at all, I’m not comfortable with those people.”

He called for an increase in military spending, specifically missile production. “We must refuse to accept a cheap, second-best defense."

On taxes he warned that high-tax rates “reduce the financial incentives for personal effort, investment, and risk-taking.”

He slashed tariffs to promote free trade.

He wasn't a big supported of federal assistance to the needy. “I do not believe that Washington should do for the people what they can do for themselves through local and private effort.”

[Fresh_Start]

40. JFK STARTED the drive to lower tax rates on individuals and businesses

something like a 30% reduction for wealthy individuals and almost that much for businesses.

and you were saying WHAT about Clinton's tax proposals?

[wyldwolf]

67. but they were considerably higher before then.

[larkrake]

47. they didnt flaunt it Hill has no good sense

[Fresh_Start]

54. Jackie Kennedy wore designer clothing

it was 50 years ago so the clothing was cheaper...
but it was designer clothing which the average woman could not afford.

[larkrake]

88. she wasnt running, and she did not wear designer clothes when campaigning for Jack

only for foreign leader visitations. Jackie was always a lady and conservative in her dress.

I wouldnt wear a pricey outfit when addressing single mothers working two jobs- that is just stupid or bad judgement. In her case, we know which. She has no sensitivity.

[dsc]

147. she most surely did

when he was shot, on a campaign trip, she was wearing a designer outfit.

[jack_krass]

111. The Kennedy's and Roosevelts dodnt gain their furtunes via giving speeches and

Running shady foundatuons. The Clintons got filthy rich alomost entirelt through political money.

[jwirr]

15. Maybe it was her security belt. Every time we talked about

inequality she would touch it to ensure herself that she was still in the 1%.

[AzDar]

17. Re: Income Inequality...Which Side Was She Taking?

[SidDithers]

21. Welcome to DU...

Sid

[BootinUp]

126. lol nt

[Else You Are Mad]

24. As a Bernie supporter...

I have to say: How much do you think most wealthy individuals and/or Politicians spend on their suits/jackets/etc?

Trust me, most of them are not shopping for their suits at JCPenny.

This is a non-issue.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

29. It would be an issue if she flaunted it and wore the tag.

To most folks she just wore a nice jacket...

[Else You Are Mad]

136. Exactly.

I couldn't even tell you if it cost $20 or $20,000 dollars. At least she isn't saying she bought her clothes at Costco to pretend she relates with the average person like Romney.

[EV_Ares]

30. Unfortunately it is a non-issue which is unfortunate. That said; still think it was a bad choice

for that particular moment but she is in a bad position because if there is anything out of place, makeup, etc. the media jum,ps on it. For us guys not quite as hard.

[gollygee]

84. +1

We are again critiquing her clothes. Ridiculous.

[beachbumbob]

31. Lol...wearing tattered jacket makes you more sellable...

Doesn't equate to any thing....lol...she did look nice

[ecstatic]

32. How much did Bernie's NBA playoff tickets cost? Anyone know?

And has Bernie released his 2015 taxes yet, or will we never know what he was hiding?

[TexasBushwhacker]

49. I believe Bernie was a guest of Danny Glover. They sat together.

[grasswire]

33. the real crime is that it was butt ugly, too. nt

[Tarc]

34. Bernie spent 600k to fly to Rome to talk for 10mins about income inequality

[TwilightZone]

35. Nice to see we're focusing on Hillary's clothes again.

(sarcasm, obviously)

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

36. She paid too much. It's ugly and didn't do a thing for her.

[QC]

115. It looks like a tweed Mao jacket. n/t

[chillfactor]

39. oh get off it....

I am really sick and tired of you bernie fans posting ridiculous nonsense...I will be so happy when Skinner's new policies go into effect.

[KingCharlemagne]

41. It was the best of times; it was the worst of times. - nt

[larkrake]

45. brilliant woman--not

[treestar]

46. Is there proof?

That it is indeed that jacket and that it cost that much?

The article doesn't give any.

[Triana]

51. The Oligarchy.

Gotta love it.

[Cheese Sandwich]

52. I don't like Hillary

[procon]

57. When the president is a man, no one criticises the price of his wardrobe.

Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump likes Brioni suits, but no one chastised him. Republicans knocked Michelle Obama for wearing designer labels, and now we have this OP who thinks the Democratic presidential nominee, Hillary Clinton, should not be allowed to buy designer clothing.

Given that the presidential candidates are spending hundreds of millions of dollars campaigning for the Presidency, quibbling over the price of her clothing -- and only hers -- seems silly.

[Cheese Sandwich]

60. sexism! Double standards! LOL That charge has lost its sting from being over abused

Hillary is one of the most privileged people on planet earth.

[MFM008]

61. 10 days in DU people

work it out.

[KingFlorez]

63. Better than looking like a complete mess

[Cheese Sandwich]

72. Not really. One seems like a totally normal thing where a shirt comes untucked

The other one seems totally elitist and disconnected from the real world struggles of working class Americans.

[KingFlorez]

74. Running around looking like a damn mess is not a good look

If we are going to talk about clothes, let's talk about the other candidate too. With that said, you don't have to wear rags in order to discuss important issues.

[Cheese Sandwich]

79. Yeah it's a fucking awesome look.

Bernie may be a bit disheveled but Hillary is truly ugly on the inside.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

103. A complete mess?

You should see me when I get off work. No wonder people who actually work for a living are jumping ship, have fun with your elitist white collar party!

[TheFarS1de]

137. What a perect expression .

Nasty and bitter , shallow . Speaks volumes of the Hillary campaign . Look down on people more , that has got to be a winning formula .

[KingFlorez]

141. You all can talk about her clothes, but Sanders' appearance is off limits? Good to know

Hypocrites. But, it is satisfying that Sanders has lost even though he believes he has one. Goodbye.

[TheFarS1de]

143. I never mentioned her clothes Mr Straw .

I merely looked at the sneering expression posted of the Hillary supporter . A picture is worth a thousand words dontcha know . A real representive of the workers

[Sancho]

165. You beat me to it...

[Blue_Adept]

68. Glad this is the new litmus test.

[Trust Buster]

70. What are the costs of the suits worn by men in these primaries ? Oh wait, that doesn't matter

because they're men and Hillary is a woman. The sexism coming from so called liberals is stunning.

[Bread and Circus]

75. If that's the jacket in the picture at the link, it looks like shit.

[Dem2]

76. In the grand scheme of things...

What could be more important?

amiright?

[wyldwolf]

77. Eleanor Roosevelt wore a mink coat to the 1960 Democratic convention

[DURHAM D]

78. i think that jacket is from Chico's. nt

[hellofromreddit]

80. I just don't fucking care.

[ReRe]

83. The jacket did not "become" her...

... made her look frumpy, chunky. Whoever chose that jacket had their eye on the price tag only. I wouldn't allow it in my front door.

[MoonRiver]

90. Well, Hillary has never been a fashion icon. Because those values aren't important to her. eom

[doc03]

87. The best thing I can do for the poor is not be one of them, Rev. Ike n/t

[Jitter65]

91. Wealth envy is getting tiresome. Some people have more money than others. Always has been,

always will be. Folks criticized Michelle Obama for wearing off-the-rack clothes. Hillary has money she earned and can spend as she wants to. Get over it!!

[ForgoTheConsequence]

104. Spoken like a true Republican in the 1980's.

Glad to see the party has fully metamorphosized.

This wouldn't be a problem if Hillary wasn't against the 15/hr minimum wage.

[geek tragedy]

106. believe it or not, having the same minimum wage in rural Texas as in San Francisco

may not make economic sense.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

119. Believe it or not 15 dollars an hour isn't luxurious anywhere.

15 should be the federal wage, San Francisco is free to go higher.

I know you think it's terrible that people might be able to afford housing, decent food, and medical care, but I promise it will be ok.

[geek tragedy]

123. why not increase it to $45/hour? nt

[Cheese Sandwich]

127. What is this Koch Bros talking points underground?

[ForgoTheConsequence]

145. Sure seems like it.

The disdain for the working poor on this board gives me reason to fear a Clinton administration.

[Cheese Sandwich]

153. Look how quickly they turn into right wing monsters. nt

[pokerfan]

156. It seems like we have two conservative parties these days (nt)

[Cheese Sandwich]

158. Yep. Or maybe one conservative party and one neo-fascist party.

[redstateblues]

122. Envy is an ugly emotion

[panader0]

94. About what I make in a year....

[underthematrix]

97. I love Hillary's success. I'm glad she's just as supportive of POC wealth too

[onecaliberal]

105. She probably forgot she wasn't going to make a speech to her wallstreet buddies.

[Marrah_G]

112. Okay, that is one butt ugly jacket

Looks like it was made from a horrible old couch.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

157. Stolen off a '70s sofa that's been languishing

in a knotty pine rec room. That nubby Herculon fabric, I think.

[Marrah_G]

166. I don't care what she wears, but if that is what is expensive fashion I am appalled

Seriously ugly garment.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

177. If I paid that much for a jacket

(which I can't, and wouldn't), it would have to:

1. be gorgeous;
2. make me look gorgeous; and
3. have been made by American union workers.

[Cheese Sandwich]

114. But Trump's suit cost $12000 too!

[Proud Liberal Dem]

118. What is she supposed to wear?

Rags? I wouldn't spend that much on an article of clothing myself but who really cares (other than anti-Hillary folks)?

[Ash_F]

125. Let's just hope the people to sewed the suits were paid a living wage.

[redstatebluegirl]

128. 93 posts?

Really? And I'm not supposed to call you out as a troll? The Republicans are terrified of running against Hillary, they are salivating at the chance to run against Bernie.

[Raine1967]

130. IF she wore something from Taget or even worse

*walmart* she'd be accused of pandering.

Give me a break.

(BTW, do you know who previous presidents wear?)

[Else You Are Mad]

139. Bingo.

I find what Romney did when he said he bought a shirt at Costco to be offensive. This is a non-issue, she can afford it and she wears it.

[Raine1967]

144. I find it amazing, TBH.

If she were a man this would be a non-issue -- unless, as you brought up it were rMoney and his Costco pandering. Nobody gave a flying fig about his clothing for pretty much the entire campaign.

[Else You Are Mad]

150. It would actually...

Be the opposite, if Hillary were a man, they would be praising how great the suit was.

[Marrah_G]

170. Bernie could use some new suits too.

[Raine1967]

176. The thing is: are about his clothing about as much as I care about Hillary's.

I am not going to knock a woman for her wardrobe.


And I damn sure am not going to play into the OP's meme.

as I said above: if she dressed down she would be called a panderer. It's not a cool place for people to go.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

162. $12,000 seriously?

[Cheese Sandwich]

168. Honestly I never even knew that $12000 jackets existed

[Marrah_G]

167. A target outfit would have looked better

What she wears has zero bearing on my support, however I do think she needs a new clothing consultant.

[vdogg]

140. It's amazing how what a female candidate is wearing is always brought up

But a male candidates attire is never commented on...

[Marrah_G]

171. Yes, but they also make fun of Bernie's suits and his hair.

And trump.....well heck, not sure what is worse, the orange skin or that hair.

[Beacool]

155. Ahhh, small and petty. How progressive of you.

I didn't realize that being poor was a prerequisite before speaking about income inequality. Then Eleanor Roosevelt shouldn't have spoken against it, after all, she was a wealthy woman.

This site has become just as embarrassing as any RW site.

[Sancho]

163. Is it fair to judge Hillary's outfit unless we price out Bernie's too?

[Marrah_G]

173. He could use some sprucing up.

His suits and hair are remarked on often.

[tblue37]

164. I like a lot of her outfits, but this is one ugly jacket for such a price!

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[Hiraeth]

169. She has horrible taste.

[Marrah_G]

172. I think her campaign probably has someone who picks her clothes

And that person should be fired

[Hiraeth]

174. we can start there. works for me.