who do you think is going to win the CA primary (Dem)

[gopiscrap]

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	Clinton by 10%
	1 (8%)
	Clinton 5%
	2 (15%)
	Clinton by 2%
	0 (0%)
	virtual tie
	1 (8%)
	Sanders by 2%
	5 (38%)
	Sanders by 5%
	2 (15%)
	Sanders by 10%
	2 (15%)
	other
	0 (0%)
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[msongs]

1. possible sanders victory despite his weaknesses as a candidate nt

[reddread]

2. virtual tie like every other suspicious result

[Maru Kitteh]

3. Hillary by 2-5%

[Stallion]

4. It Will Be Very Close But She Will Win Among Actual Democrats by 10+

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[onenote]

5. I don't know. But I do know this:

If Clinton wins,the Sanders supporters will claim he would've won but for the announcement.
If Sanders wins, the Sanders supporters will claim he would've won by three times as much but for the announcement and the Clinton supporters will claim she would've won or made it closer but for the announcement.

All of which is speculation. The only thing that isn't that speculative? That tonight's announcement doesn't change the result, just moves it up 24 hours. Unless you're that 15 year old Italian or Indian kid who still believed that Sanders was going to win a majority of the pledged delegates by winning PR by 20 percent (oops!) and California by 2 to 1 and New Jersey by double digits.

What is interesting about all the wailing going on here tonight is that most of the complaints don't argue that Bernie would've come out of tomorrow's voting with a lead in pledged delegates or that hundreds of supers were on the verge of changing their position. It's that it makes the outcome of California irrelevant. But apart from deciding how many votes over 2026 Clinton was going to have tomorrow (not whether she'd be over 2026), the outcome in California wasn't going to be of decisional significance.