2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumthe AP may have just helped ban superdelegates
just to be clear, they reported that what put Clinton over the top for the nomination were unnamed party officials who had non-public agreements with one of the candidates to vote for her at the convention.
the existence of these agreements is something that happens with every prominent candidate in every Democratic presidential primary.
But, there's something very unseemly about putting them on the scoreboard before there's even been published notice--including the superdelegates' names--that they've made that commitment.
If they haven't even gone public with it, it doesn't count as points on the board.
So, shitty of the AP to manufacture news like this, on the other hand if they helped get rid of superdelegates, good.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)Barack_America
(28,876 posts)Which campaign could have possibly put the AP in touch with these elusive supers, unable to be reached for comment until today?
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)It is mostly public knowledge if one digs deep enough.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!
thesquanderer
(11,986 posts)Their identities are not secret.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)Just the ones that were ready to commit...today.
Uh huh.
thesquanderer
(11,986 posts)It doesn't take long to have a few people call them. And they don't have to call everyone... as soon as they called enough to get 23 (or whatever the number was) new people saying Yes to Clinton, they were done.
TriplD
(176 posts)Some people change their minds. Did the AP poll these people or pull from that?
msongs
(67,394 posts)Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)Not even to each other.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)They're calling the race based on superdelegate commitments the campaign hasn't announced.
There aren't enough public superdelegate commitments to clinch the nomination.
QED.
gopiscrap
(23,756 posts)in fact I think if you hold any office higher than a neighborhood level position you should not be allowed to be a delegate
Maru Kitteh
(28,339 posts)It would be a good thing to have them gone.