2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHow the fuck can you control hundreds and hundreds of supers to keep quiet about their candidate?
Please. Tell me. How you keep every single one from announcing their intention to reporters?
This is so fucking dumb.
onenote
(42,702 posts)and illegal for the press to report what they say.
Because free speech and freedom of the press are so not part of the revolution.
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)That they obviously couldn't stop those 40 supers from announcing.
All the AP did was its job. Call up every super and ask their intention.
DURHAM D
(32,609 posts)declared today.
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)DURHAM D
(32,609 posts)From the way the NBC news guy was talking earlier to Rachel they don't have a real list. They are speculating and trying not to look like they are 10 steps behind AP.
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)Wikipeda has one but I can't find it. In theory all you have to do is look for the ones who haven't decided.
DURHAM D
(32,609 posts)Only AP knows who they are.
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)But I know I saw a named list somewhere.
Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)they did this in past elections?
never heard so much talk about supers before.
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)oh. and. emails.
TeamPooka
(24,226 posts)leftinportland
(247 posts)shut at least until after the first primary.
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)onenote
(42,702 posts)Oh,I suppose you could say that if you're going to be a super you have to agree not to endorse a candidate until after the first primary. But since the whole point of supers is that they are free to make a decision independent of the primary results (isn't that the heart of Bernie's argument about flipping them), what is the logic of gagging them before the first primary?
Doctor Jack
(3,072 posts)and they count as one of their delegates when they endorse a candidate. You would want no democrats to endorse any candidate until after the iowa caucuses? They aren't allowed to publicly state who they want to vote for, like every other citizen in the country is free to do?
SheenaR
(2,052 posts)Where the team was up by 400 points before the other team was even announced.
Or that World Series where it was 400-0 entering the first inning with only one team scheduled to play.
Fuck Supers
onenote
(42,702 posts)SheenaR
(2,052 posts)Of the Supers being included in delegate totals since before Iowa matters? If you don't that's fine. I think it matters very much to the casual voter who assumes this race is already over when they see such numbers.
Just my thoughts.
onenote
(42,702 posts)If instead of 400 supers being announced before Iowa, they were announced the day after Iowa, don't you think that would have as much, probably more impact?
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)But this is still stupid.
Doctor Jack
(3,072 posts)Anytime they say publicly that they support a certain candidate, they count that toward the candidate's delegate total. You either want elected democrats to keep their mouths shut and unlike all of us, wouldn't be allowed to talk about who they support in an election. Or the media could not count them but other sources would and there would be a lot of well know, "unofficial" delegate counts. Of course we could just get rid of the supers but that would mean that clinton would clinch the nomination tomorrow with the majority of pledged delegates and Sanders would have 0 chance to win.
MinnesotaRob
(53 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]
Logical
(22,457 posts)Understand that
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)We shouldn't even have them.
U4ikLefty
(4,012 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)Limit it to the chair, vice chair, and secretary of each state party. They, at least, can be relied on to keep their mouths shut if DNC tells them to.
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)Can't stop normal people from talking to reporters.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)It is only going to play into the bogus 'rigged' narrative.
It undercuts Clinton's very real, historic victory.
I am pissed.
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)I'm sure Clinton didn't want this.