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Related: About this forum"For the Clintons, politics is a family business, which is about accumulating wealth and power"
SALONThe Clintons arrogance might be their undoing: Hillary has a serious image problem and blood-thirsty Republicans arent to blame
For the Clintons, politics is a family business, which on its face is about accumulating wealth and gaining power
by Conor Lynch
June 3, 2016
Donald Trump is not a man who needs any kind of assistance when it comes to coining insulting epithets or finding effective lines of attack on his political opponents. He has a vulgar, shameless, and sophomoric style that seems better suited for professional wrestling than presidential politics, and resembles a troll who gets off on provoking people, all to satisfy his desperate craving for attention. This unorthodox and brazen approach is unpredictable, and it could prove to be very potent against a conventional politician like Hillary Clinton, who has plenty of political and personal baggage for Trump to work with (which it should be noted her current opponent has refused to exploit).
Once you dig through the right-wing garbage heap e.g. Vince Foster, Whitewater, Benghazi there is still ample reason to distrust Hillary Clinton. On a purely political level, its hard to take anything Clinton says during a campaign as genuine; she has altered her positions time and again for political benefit, and there is no reason to think this will change. For most Bernie Sanders supporters, this seems to be the major turnoff. Compared to Sanders, who has remained committed to progressive principles throughout his career, Clinton is a political chameleon.
But even if you ignore the political opportunism and inconsistency, there are very real ethical concerns that must be considered. And it goes way beyond Clinton getting big contributions from Wall Street executives or billionaires to fund her campaigns (after all, she is not unique in this respect: most D.C. politicians are equally dependent on wealthy donors in the current system).
For the Clintons, politics is a family business, and it seems to be as much about accumulating wealth as it is garnering power. Hillary has often questioned why she has received so much flak for something like paid speeches which many other former public officials give as well (read: former public officials) but there is quite simply no power couple even remotely comparable to the Clintons and the political/business/philanthropic apparatus that they have created over the past twenty years. And if the Clintons were Republicans, there is no doubt that partisan Democrats would be more than a little suspicious.
A large share of Bill Clintons post-presidency speaking gigs were for special interests that benefited greatly from his administrations policies (e.g. Wall Street and deregulation), or special interests that stood to benefit from Hillarys current or future political power. Consider one disquieting fact: out of the 13 speeches that Bill Clinton has been paid over $500,000 for during his speaking career, eleven of them came a decade after he left office, while Hillary was secretary of state and all of these were sponsored by foreign companies, NGOs, or governments. Hillary has obviously earned big paydays for speeches as well, once again from interests who stand to benefit from being on the good side of a future president, like Goldman Sachs. Finally, the Clinton Foundation itself has received millions in donations from individuals, corporations, and governments that have had something to gain whether Canadas mining billionaire Frank Giustra or the oil corporation Chevron or the autocratic regime of Saudi Arabia, which donated some 10 million to the Foundation and then saw a boost in arms sales approved by Clintons State Department.
On Friday, after taking well-deserved heat for bringing up the Vince Foster conspiracy theory (which is probably the craziest of them all), Trump said that he may just stick to some of Bernie Sanders criticisms of Clinton, because the media says his own are not nice (of course, its not that his talking points are mean, its that theyre batshit crazy). Hes given me a lot of my best lines. I mean, he has given me such great lines on her, said the billionaire on Sanders. If this is Donalds strategy to stick to the substantive criticisms and refrain from conspiracy theories and personal attacks team Clinton should be worried.
Of course, Clintonites will undoubtedly blame Sanders for putting things into Donalds head if he continues to climb in the polls and starts asking Clinton to release her Goldman Sachs speeches; but the only people who deserve blame are Hillary and Bill. As Sanders recently said in an interview with The Young Turks Cenk Uygur: Many of my supporters think I have not been hard enough on [Clinton] And believe me, Trump will be coming from a very different direction. They have 50 people doing opposition research, and everybody knows whats out there. So to say that we have been too hard scorched earth is totally absurd.
Read the full article at:
http://www.salon.com/2016/06/03/the_clintons_arrogance_might_be_their_undoing_hillary_has_a_serious_image_problem_and_blood_thirsty_republicans_arent_to_blame/
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"For the Clintons, politics is a family business, which is about accumulating wealth and power" (Original Post)
imagine2015
Jun 2016
OP
Imagine, the people have made their decision. You should take a deep breath and calm down.
Trust Buster
Jun 2016
#2
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)1. Envy is an ugly emotion
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)2. Imagine, the people have made their decision. You should take a deep breath and calm down.
StarTrombone
(188 posts)3. Oh for God's sake. Compared to the Roosevelts, Kennedys and even
John and Teresa Kerry the Clintons are street people living in a cardboard box.
Give it a rest.
jack_krass
(1,009 posts)5. Those other families had money. The Clintons got rich through politics, and money+politics=corruptio
For me, this is unacceptable, others may differ. Politics should be about service, not making money. Politics shouldnt be a lifelong career or Dynasty, as this leads to much room for abuse of power. I know the Clintons arent the only ones to do this, but probably the most flagrant.
quickesst
(6,280 posts)4. these emoticons...
... describe some of Bernie's more avid fans a month into the primary.
These emoticons describe some of Bernie's more avid fans currently.