It was a bold move but will it pay off?

[NWCorona]

The proclamation by AP was a bold move and I wonder what the true motives are. The timing cannot be overlooked. Just like the timing of Hillary foreign policy speech. So maybe the internal polling didn't show the bump team Hillary was expecting? I've noticed lately there's been a lot of talk about Hillarys internal polling.

This move of announcing that Hillary the nominee could actually have a negative effect on Hillarys turn out so maybe this is some CYA for when Bernie wins California.
You can look at the math anyway you want but until the supers actually vote they are purely polling statistics.

Tomorrow should be interesting.

[msongs]

1. you forgot any evidence to prove suspicious motives or hanky panky. If even one person

decides not to vote based on this situation would be surprising.

[NWCorona]

4. I'm just sharing my opinion/thoughts on current events.

Make of it what you will.

[Skink]

2. I was pissed at first

But this might not bode well for HRC.

[renate]

3. I'm probably naive but I think they just wanted the scoop

They made the phone calls etc, they added up the numbers, and they wanted to be the first to announce breaking news.

They're calling Hillary the presumptive nominee, not the nominee, so even if delegates change their minds or something else changes between now and the convention, the AP will still have been accurate at the time they made the announcement.

Neither candidate is happy about it so I don't think there's anything nefarious going on. The AP and NBC were just doing what news organizations do.

[radical noodle]

7. I think you're exactly right

This helps neither candidate.

[NWCorona]

8. IMHO this announcement was purely messaging

[radical noodle]

5. The likely reason

is that every news organization wants to be the first to tell any story. The AP called super delegates to ask who they intended to vote for, and when they got to the magic number they eagerly announced even though everyone had made it clear they preferred to wait until after tomorrow night.

[Purveyor]

6. I pondered this myself. The announcement tonight didn't happen by accident. This was a huge

decision by AP...

[NWCorona]

9. Yes indeed!

[Lord Magus]

10. Reporting basic facts is not "bold."

It's just reporting.

[NWCorona]

11. But that timing tho

[Lord Magus]

12. What would be worse for a jounalist than to sit on a story just because it could effect an election?

[NWCorona]

14. What was the math at this time in 2008?

[passiveporcupine]

13. Bernie is going to have to win Cali by a huge percentage to close the gap on delegates

or even best it. Hill will win more delegates than bernie in NJ (let's assume she gets 70%), that means he has to win over 467 delegates more than her in cali and the other states to even get close to her.

I seriously doubt this was aimed at helping Bernie. I mean, the media has been predominantly in Hillary camp from day one, so why would they pull this for him? If anything, the "winner" usually hypes people up to stay in the race, while the loser deflates people and discourages their participation, so I think this is aimed at helping Hillary, not Bernie. I think they would have waited till tomorrow night if they had not been intending to "help" someone.

Not surprised at all.