Hillary: John Edwards' decision to pay $400 for a haircut smacks of liberal elitism

[Cheese Sandwich]

"John Edwards' decision to pay $400 for a haircut smacks of liberal elitism.", Clinton told the jubilant crowd, "If John Edwards thinks that the average Pennsylvanian is going to spend $400 in a trendy hair salon, it is pretty clear that he is out of touch with Pennsylvanian voters".

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/14/495908/-

Anybody know what Hillary pays for a haircut?

The $12000 jacket story today reminded me of this.

She fights real dirty.

[azurnoir]

1. so what are we to believe someone plops a bowl over her head?

or does she go to cost cutters?

[CorporatistNation]

37. I Have Been Wondering About Her HairDo's? Probably In Line With The Armani Jacket! She Is After All

A member of the TOP 1/10th of 1%'ers! She'd probably fib anyway... THAT IS her character...

e.g., MSNBC To the deniers... Watch THIS Video... It is not comforting to think that she may well be the Democratic Nominee...

Hillary really betrayed Andrea Mitchell... The entire context of this report was of a solemn nature... A Funeral so to speak...

Andrea Mitchell "I do not see this report as ...ANYTHING BUT... DEVASTATING!"

Chuck Todd "After this I don't think that she could get confirmed for Attorney General!"

Lots of FIBBING by Hillary here.. for more than a year!

[grossproffit]

2. Hillary won big in Pennsylvania. Thanks for the reminder.

[leftinportland]

3. Yes she does fight dirty...

[udbcrzy2]

4. How about a $600 haircut?

Clinton regularly sees salon owner John Barrett, who charges regular mortals $600 for a cut and blow-dry. Hair color can cost an extra $600.

http://pagesix.com/2015/07/28/hillary-clintons-600-haircut-puts-bergdorf-on-lockdown/

[NanceGreggs]

5. So glad you brought this up!

It's REALLY important.

I'm sure the millions of people who have voted for HRC thus far would have changed their votes based on this incredibly important information.

[Cheese Sandwich]

6. This isn't about votes.

It's about haircuts and Armani jackets.

[NanceGreggs]

7. Both of which, of course ...

... have nothing to do with anything the voters are interested in.

[Cheese Sandwich]

8. I'm interested in discussing Hillary's dirty campaign tactics

[NanceGreggs]

10. Oh, I'm sure you are.

"The $12000 jacket story today reminded me of this. She fights real dirty."

What could be "dirtier" than wearing a $12,000 jacket? The mind boggles.

[Cheese Sandwich]

11. Whoa. It turns out Hillary ran a TV ad attacking John Edwards for his pretty boy $400 haircut

That's nice. I would have done the same thing. But in Hillary's case it does make her a total hypocrite.

[NanceGreggs]

12. A "total hypocrite" ...

... would be a candidate who calls super-delegates undemocratic and unfair - and then attempts to get them to ignore the voters and hand him the nomination that he couldn't win on his own merits.

THAT'S hypocrisy - and it's a million miles beyond haircuts and jackets.

[Cheese Sandwich]

14. The system is unfair but it's what we have so the only way to win would be to play by the rules.

Or cheat.

What you're saying makes no sense.

There's no with saying the rules suck but we are going to play by the rules anyway and try to win within the rules.

[NanceGreggs]

15. It has nothing to do with rules.

It has to do with saying the people should decide the nominee - and then saying the people should be ignored if the nominee isn't Bernie.

And that is EXACTLY what Bernie is saying.

[Cheese Sandwich]

16. Hillary voted for the Iraq War and a million people died.

[NanceGreggs]

17. What does that have to do ...

... with Bernie's hypocrisy about the SDs?

[Cheese Sandwich]

20. That explains a lot of the emotion of the election I think

[NanceGreggs]

22. Actually ...

... what your replies have explained is that you have NO explanation for why Bernie "Champion of the People" Sanders thinks that "the people" should be ignored, and the nomination should be handed to him.

Smacks of a want for a "coronation", doesn't it?

[msongs]

19. bernie votes every year for more death and murder and his MIC best friends nt

[Cheese Sandwich]

21. This is a good example of a totally intellectually dishonest argument

[annavictorious]

26. "Progressives" voted for Ralph Nader and gave us a Bush presidency.

They own the Iraq War and the Citizens United court.

"How bad can Bush be?"
"Gore is the lesser of two evils."
"There's no real difference between the parties."

Sorry, but responsibility for the Iraq War goes to the Naderite spoilers who had really, really lousy judgement.

[okieinpain]

58. +1 n/t.

[merrily]

30. The standard for posting at DU is now something that would change a vote that has already been cast?

Good to know!

[Herman4747]

35. Hillary's $600 for a haircut seems WASTEFUL to me...

While you might not mind, I don't want a candidate who will be wasteful with money.
I also don't want a candidate who attacks another for a $400 haircut, while she herself gets a $600 haircut. I believe hypocrisy is not a desirable trait in a presidential candidate.

[okieinpain]

57. +1 n/t.

[ancianita]

9. Bullshit. Women pay waaay more for the same clothes and services as men. THAT's playing dirty.

I have short hair. Men have short hair. No matter where I go, my haircut is double the price of men's. In barbershops I might get a price break, but I get a shit job or charged more for some "look" request because of a public double standard for my hair "look". I've had to talk both salon and barber people out of unequal treatment. Now I've found a woman does a masterful job on my multi-layered "look" for $7. I'm her friend.

Most women know, because we become inured to unequal treatment and pricing the moment we walk out the door with our 77 cents per dollar budgets -- for dry cleaning, contraception, medical treatments, haircuts -- that while John Edwards' spending was not typical for men of his class and gender, Hillary's spending is typical of salon pricing because of her class and sex.

It's common for women to pay $50 to $100 for the typical shampoo and cut. I'd have to spend at least $200 for that in any Gold Coast salon in Chicago. Suddenly a woman runs for president can't get a shampoo, cut, tint and perm for $400? Or $600? Puh-lease. Anyone who criticizes that knows nothing of the real world of women.

You'll be laughed at to blame Hillary for a sexist hygiene system she had no part in making.

So nope. Try something else about her appearance. Women everywhere are waiting to hear it.

[Aerows]

23. "Sexist hygiene system"

I just had to reiterate that.

[merrily]

31. Except no one is faulting her simply for spending more than Edwards

She is the one who called Edwards elitist for spending a lot on a haircut, even though she spends a lot on haircuts, too.

The issue is hypocrisy.

If you don't want someone to discuss the cost of your haircuts, maybe don't call other people elitist for the cost of their haircuts.

[ancianita]

52. Actually, she was spot on in her class critique. Edwards WAS elitist by being spendthrift while

catering to the working class vote.

Working class women have no such issue with Hillary's spending because we're ALL forced to overspend.

I think you're missing the women's point here.

[merrily]

53. You've now twice posted to me in a way that seems to assume I am male.

FYI, I don't miss a heck of a lot.

[ancianita]

56. I didn't see your name. I only focused on the hypocrisy argument by saying it's not hypocrisy to

actually adapt or cope with a double standard and then point out another's hypocrisy.

I do often assume the maleness of the internet, not always meaning to, just feeling the patriarchal temperament of the e-spaces.

Do you want me to pay more attention to gender here? Because I've made enough wrong assumptions in the past that I figure gender would be secondary to my messages. I'm so unused to communicating within frames of gender issues, that when I do I probably err on the side of arguing against no-win, double bind, double standard thinking.

Now that the Berners are facing a space where they can unify with the HRC people, I'm trying to be defend Hill's personal attacks early so we can get all that out of the way, even though, through the general it will never really go away.

I do know you. But not well enough to assume anything, really. FWIW, I always like your posts and don't 'see' a female who posts them.

Hope you don't take offense, I 99.9% of the time don't intend it.

[JI7]

13. that was during the 2008 Primary when they were both running

and attacking each other.

[merrily]

32. That does not make it okay to say something you don't believe.

Did she believe spending a lot on a haircut was elitist or not?

[thesquanderer]

36. Did she believe that candidates should be ready to debate any time, anywhere?

What she believes at any time seems to be situational...

[Herman4747]

46. Another of Hillary's lies. n/t

[JI7]

39. it's the same as when Sanders said she was unqualified to be president

He thought it was because she said it.

In her case she was responding to attacks on her by Edwards in 2008.

[msongs]

18. bernie blows $600,000 on a family vacation to rome. He flies real luxuriously snt

[Aerows]

24. It still makes me laugh

at how off the rails some folks went because Bernie Sanders was invited to attend that symposium in Rome.

Griped because he flew on a plane. How dare he, maybe he should have built his own boat out of twigs and rowed there. He actually got food on that plane, perhaps he should have killed rats for himself for supper. He met privately with the Pope, and it was super secret because they don't allow cameras in the place where the Pope lives so obviously it didn't happen.

Are you *still* hanging on to that chapped-assedness? Why? Seriously, WHY?

[NCTraveler]

29. Why? Because of the pathetic fit people are throwing over her clothes. Nt

[merrily]

33. LOL! FAIL. We're all seen him fly coach before he had to have Secret Service protection.

That's an excuse for Hillary, but not for Bernie?

[AzDar]

25. K & R

[annavictorious]

27. It was discovered this week from FEC filings that Sanders spent $625,000

chartering a Delta 767 jet to fly family and friends for a 36 hour visit to Rome that culminated in a pretend meeting with the Pope.

[merrily]

34. Please see reply 33 and the trip was for a lecture, which he gave.

Conversing with the Pope for a few minutes was not the purpose of the trip, but you knew that.

It's a hoot how much a trip to speak on behalf of worldwide economic justice seems to have ticked off so many of DUs Hillary supporters.

[KittyWampus]

44. it wasn't a "lecture". It was his campaign speech which had nothing to do with the specific subject

actually being discussed and he had his cronies at the Vatican pull strings to get him wedged into the already full schedule.

[Bluenorthwest]

49. Obama 08 spent in excess of a million dollars to address a crowd of non voters in Berlin

It was great but very costly optics and he was speaking to people who can't vote in the US. I think they call it 'election politics'. JFK had that big Berlin speech so they produced on of their own to show the folks back home who is like JFK.

Did you think all of that just happened, paid for by Germans? Not the case.

[ecstatic]

54. The ambush "meeting" makes sense now.

With over half a million dollars spent... Bernie wasn't going to leave without at least one word being exchanged.

[NCTraveler]

28. Overall, in the spotlights, guys can go around looking like Sanders.

Women cannot.

That is the issue.

[Sancho]

38. With all these OPs about Hillary's clothes, there must be a memo for the operatives out this am.

Not as coordinated as usual today though...too many overlapping repeats. At any rate, Bernie needs some fashion help, so maybe that's why he's losing!

[NurseJackie]

42. Oh dear! I laughed and laughed ...

[Orsino]

40. Oops. n/t

[NurseJackie]

41. Who cares? :-D (#FeelTheJoy)

#FeelTheJoy

[KittyWampus]

43. How much was that bogus Pope Trip, illegally paid for by campaign donations?

And when the time comes that a MAN gets torn apart over what he wears, how he wears his hair, how he talks, how he laughs, how he WINS a party nomination your OP is crap.

[Herman4747]

47. What law did the trip to Rome break? Do tell. n/t

[LexVegas]

45. Feeling bad for John Edwards?

[arely staircase]

48. Good point. It is about to suck to be Trump NT

[LanternWaste]

50. I think it's important you focus on what women wear. It seems your best fit.

I think it's important you focus on what women wear. It seems your best fit, regardless of how creepy it may seem.

[beachbum bob]

51. lol and sanders taking his family on a quick $500,000 vacation to rome

[Tarc]

55. 9 days

[Demsrule86]

59. June 16th baseless attacks end. nt

[SidDithers]

60. Get 'em in while you still can...nt

Sid