Voters Outraged as Media Accused of Falsely, Preemptively Crowning Clinton

[pdsimdars]

"Shame on you AP! Superdelegates don't vote until the convention," tweeted documentary filmmaker Josh Fox. "Story of Clinton nomination is false and aims to suppress voters."

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The Bernie Sanders campaign and progressives across the nation expressed mixtures of frustration and contempt Monday night after major news outlets — following declarations by the Associated Press and NBC News — ignored the explicit instructions about how primary delegates should be tallied and declared that Hillary Clinton has won the nomination of the Democratic Party.

It was feared this would happen—and news outlets were repeatedly warned they would be reporting the results inaccurately if they counted so-called "superdelegates" in their totals before next month's national convention—but they did it any way.

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/06/06/voters-outraged-media-accused-falsely-preemptively-crowning-clinton

[Dustlawyer]

1. BOYCOTT!!!

[Tarc]

2. Common Dreams is my new go-to for fantasy writing.

"Bernie voters", specifically the BoBs, may be outraged, is all.

[yourpaljoey]

3. Burning bridges as she goes

[gollygee]

6. AP did this, not Hillary. Nt

[yourpaljoey]

7. No one will believe Hill is not complicit

[gollygee]

8. Then they're fools

The AP is a huge news organization. They have written procedures about things like when to call a race. There are sometimes gray areas, but mainly on election night when part of a state's returns have come in and part haven't. This however isn't a gray area. They had the information they use every election cycle to call a race, and they followed their procedure.

[yourpaljoey]

11. Sadly, past is prologue, and Hill was already seen as untrustworthy by most.

[MaeScott]

13. AP has a conservative's take on things. They back the conservative view, so....

it figures AP would poison the journalistic well.

[pdsimdars]

16. Hillary knew they were going to do this. She could have stopped them.

[gollygee]

19. I doubt it

Their job is to report on the news, as their procedures tell them to. Their job is not to let the people they're writing about make their decisions.

[Trust Buster]

4. I think the term "outrage" is a bit over the top. We knew this day was coming for awhile.

I see no need to argue over a 24 hour difference of opinion. We all need to take a deep breath and collect ourselves.

[Jester Messiah]

5. Hardly a surprise.

This isn't going to help with the whole "sleazy dirty tricks" perception.

[MyNameGoesHere]

9. I am guessing there are Some voters outraged, me I am

Fucking giddy with glorious happiness. Glorious!

[d_legendary1]

10. From the people who brought you fights at the Nevada Convention

Its the "MAGIC NUMBER"!!! Its as real as a chair being thrown by a Bernie Supporter! MAGIC NUMBER is the only number that doesn't really count for anything UNLESS you make it so!

WOW! How does it work?

Simple! Call the election for a candidate by adding a number of votes that have nothing to do with the states and BAM: you now have an undisputed champion! MAGIC NUMBER works for almost everything: inflating support, undermining votes in various states, and most important GETTING PEOPLE TO STAY HOME!

AMAZING! How do I get one?

For a low price of getting suckered into believing the media, you too can partake in the magic that is the MAGIC NUMBER! Don't be a Bernie supporter, get your MAGIC NUMBER TODAY!

Super delegates are standing by! Order yours now!

[Jarqui]

12. I've been on the fence trying to find a way to support her.

The fix seems to have been in since before the primary started. This premature calling of the primary is the final nail.

The DNC has never appeared so corrupt and has had their thumb on the scale for Hillary since the outset (ie the debate schedule or the way Sanders data is violated and they do nothing but they howl to the media when Clintons data is exposed for a few minutes - and never get to the bottom of what happened to Sanders data, how they allow Hillary to use their offices around the country but do not offer the same to Sanders, etc).

The number of dirty tricks and voting irregularities in state after state- nearly all associated with the Clinton campaign seems worse than 2008 and as bad or worse than any time I can recall in my 50 plus years following the party.

The critical lies on Bernie's record for Latinos in Nevada, for example, or the auto bail out, go largely unchecked in the media. The media, the great arbitrator of democracy, abdicates it's responsibility because they no longer represent the people - they represent the 1% who own them. Trump gets a couple of hundred minutes of free mainstream media coverage. Hillary a hundred plus. Bernie gets a whole ten minutes. Goodbye to the Fairness Doctrine.

As others have said, the United States is not a real democracy any more. Votes do not really matter any more because the electorate doesn't get fairly informed about their candidates, their positions and the lies. It has become an oligarchy. The 1% have bought and paid for both candidates in the major parties. They cannot lose the general election. for them, that election is already over. The 1% have already won no matter which candidate becomes president.

Hillary lies too much to accept that she will be the defender of Democratic party values. I cannot handle her dishonesty. Therefore, I cannot nor will not support either Clinton or Trump in the general election. I have better things to do with my time. I think the country needs to get what's coming to them in order for real change to come about. It's going to be ugly but short term ugliness gives us the best chance for longer term meaningful change. When it gets ugly enough, people will wake up and try to do something about it. Hopefully, they won't come out of their slumber too late.

[sharp_stick]

17. Yeeeeahh "on the fence"

that's the phrase to use today. Someone is bound to buy that.

[Jarqui]

18. Until the email scandal press conference, I was for Hillary through to March 2015 -

through the early part of this year. I forgave her for 2008 because at the time, before I found out more, I felt she'd been on pretty good behavior for Obama as Secretary of State.

At the time, I was banned from this site for saying Hillary's lead looked too large to overcome - even though I'd never even been suspended before nor had a comment hidden by a jury.

So somebody around here sure bought that as being how I felt at the time.

Since then, she's ground me down with her replay of 2008 in continuous lying, flip-flops, dirty tricks and dishonesty.

Now I'll quickly grant that Trump is probably worse but you know what is murky? "How much worse?" Because Hillary lies so much, nobody can really say with assurance.

That honestly sums up my evolution. I really don't give a shit whether you believe it or not.

[Demsrule86]

14. Sanders asking for different rules right to the end

This is the same as how the GOP primary was called...exactly.

[Brickbat]

15. I'm trying to keep an open heart but this outrage is starting to be funny to me.